Military OK'd Secret Incursions Into Pakistan

AP   |  Scott Lindlaw   |   August 23, 2007 08:04 PM


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Newly uncovered "rules of engagement" show the U.S. military gave elite units broad authority more than three years ago to pursue suspected terrorists into Pakistan, with no mention of telling the Pakistanis in advance.

The documents obtained by The Associated Press offer a detailed glimpse at what Army Rangers and other terrorist-hunting units were authorized to do earlier in the war on terror. And interviews with military officials suggest some of those same guidelines have remained in place, such as the right to "hot pursuit" across the border.

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- MoNut See Profile I'm a Fan of MoNut permalink

OF COURSE they can run anywhere they want around Pakistan... or any of the 'Stans' in the region... because they're our business buds... erm.. allies, ya know.

If Musharaf really wanted Bin laden, why didn't he get him when Bin laden was in the Pakistani Army hospital in Rawalpindi(which has close ties w/ the Pentagon) for dialysis on September 10, 2001?

If the CIA really wanted Bin laden, why didn't they get him when they met with him on July 12th, 2001... at the American hospital in Dubai... just weeks before the attack... when he already had a multi-million dollar bounty on his head for his supposed involvement in previous attacks, mind you?

Sh!t. They don't want Bin laden.

He's been wheeling around half alive for the past decade and we still haven't gotten him. Mysteriously evades US in the heat of "hot pursuit".

After another payout and iuanother hour head-start, I presume....

And don't forget it was Mushraf's Ahmad that was having breakfast with Bob Graham, Porter Goss, and Jon Kyl on the morning of 9/11.... The same Ahmad that wired the last $100,000.00 payment to Atta before the attack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 08/24/2007
- MajorKong See Profile I'm a Fan of MajorKong permalink

Silly Pakistanis. What do they think they are? A sovereign nation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 08/24/2007
- ResistanceisFutile See Profile I'm a Fan of ResistanceisFutile permalink

I'll bet Obama feels stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 08/24/2007
- Ammobob See Profile I'm a Fan of Ammobob permalink

You see, Pres Bush was way ahead of Sadsack Osama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 08/24/2007
- MelCarnahan See Profile I'm a Fan of MelCarnahan permalink

Yeah, apparently Bush likes to set off earthquakes in places like Pakistan and Iran. We won't mention submarine tsunamis. Imagine if Beavis and Butthead had their very own so-called Terrorist Surveillance Program. That's basically the situation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 08/24/2007
- ZenCrusader See Profile I'm a Fan of ZenCrusader permalink

GOOD - it's about time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 08/24/2007
- vippy See Profile I'm a Fan of vippy permalink

For over one year we have soldiers stationed in
Muzafarabad and Karachi. Ergo we are already in Pakistan. Only 2 days ago we have lost 3 soldiers in Pakistan. So why this article in the first place - get with it and get current.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 AM on 08/24/2007
- Amunaka See Profile I'm a Fan of Amunaka permalink

Pakistani leader, a key U.S. ally, faces critical threat to rule
LAHORE, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan's embattled leader, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, could face a key challenge to his rule in the coming months following the expected return of two major opposition leaders.
Pakistan's Supreme Court Thursday lifted the exile imposed on former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, ousted from power eight years ago by Musharraf in a bloodless coup. The move is expected to clear the way for Sharif to run for office in elections scheduled for later this year or early next year.
In addition, opposition leader and former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto also plans to return to Pakistan from self-imposed exile and take part in the upcoming elections.
Musharraf wielded a tight grip on power after imposing military rule in 1999, but has seen an increased backlash after failed attempts to control Islamic militants within the country's borders as well as his controversial suspension of the country's top judge in March

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 08/24/2007
- Amunaka See Profile I'm a Fan of Amunaka permalink

Pakistan: "The Taliban's Godfather"?

Documents Detail Years of Pakistani Support for Taliban, Extremists

Covert Policy Linked Taliban, Kashmiri Militants, Pakistan's Pashtun Troops
Aid Encouraged Pro-Taliban Sympathies in Troubled Border Region

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 227

Edited by Barbara Elias
Posted - August 14, 2007

Washington D.C., August 14, 2007 - A collection of newly-declassified documents published today detail U.S. concern over Pakistan's relationship with the Taliban during the seven-year period leading up to 9-11. This new release comes just days after Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, acknowledged that, "There is no doubt Afghan militants are supported from Pakistan soil."

While Musharraf admitted the Taliban were being sheltered in the lawless frontier border regions, the declassified U.S. documents released today clearly illustrate that the Taliban was directly funded, armed and advised by Islamabad itself.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB227/index.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 08/24/2007
- totalliberal See Profile I'm a Fan of totalliberal permalink

And Pakistan secretly OK'd Taliban incursions into Afghanistan. So what. Pakistanis and Taliban are assholes.

Any more questions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 08/24/2007
- VictorLudorum See Profile I'm a Fan of VictorLudorum permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 08/24/2007
- speakingtruth2power See Profile I'm a Fan of speakingtruth2power permalink


The US military incursions that ARE happening inside Iran

are of a much greater concern for those of us, interested

in the Crusade for Muslim Oil winding down, not escalating.

ST2P

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 08/23/2007
- VictorLudorum See Profile I'm a Fan of VictorLudorum permalink

...speakingtruth..show em the files...

oil is a bloody market commodity and theres no shooting for it......the arabs are buying other goods more than west saves from oil exports ..............there is a confusion of power bthat immemse power us americans have siezed...few days ago i got a letter announcing me as us official at labour dept., and papers with marks to mail all the pakistanis i can to work in usa..i thought i better take the white hopuse instead..these small sattelite govts that turmoils and cry of poverty has created must be accounted too......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 08/24/2007
- mphalen See Profile I'm a Fan of mphalen permalink

Wise up. When Obama said that about Pakistan he was critcized in the MSM by the right-wing pundits and Hillary. But the public was on his side and thought he was right-on. Now all of a sudden it comes out that we had that policy all the time? If Musharaff was a true ally in this world-wide war on terror, he would enlist our help in pursuing the terrorists and we would have gone in with his blessing long ago. They have no intention in getting bin Laden. He is their "reason" we are fighting this so-called war on terror and if he was taken out, they would have no reason to continue their pursuit to control the oil of both Iraq and Iran.
Need I remind you that bin Laden was a CIA operative and helped get the USSR out of Afghanistan? And we invaded Afghanisatn after 9/11, supposedly to get bin Laden, but the real reason was to get access to Afghanistan so they could build a gas pipe-line through the country. And Pappy Bush was at one time the head of the CIA and was sitting in a D.C. hotel room with some of bin Laden's family members on the morning of 9/11. Members in the governments of both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia knew of the 9/11 attacks before they happened. The Bushes are in cahoots with the Saudi's to get control of the oil in Iraq and Iran. Way too many coincidences for me.

The hand that drills the oil, rules the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 08/23/2007
- VictorLudorum See Profile I'm a Fan of VictorLudorum permalink

osama's no public man,never was .
cia operative is anyone here ready to shoot at americans ..you havnt checked out robin raffeal and gen zias regime......
when ussr was chased to negotiate itself out osamaasnt in the feild even....
musharaff cant help because the entire play in washington is going /doing /covertly working against george bush...but he/republ;icans will ask democrats 'how much did you get?
americans elected a oilman working in the region a capitalist oilman...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 08/24/2007
- getoffmedz See Profile I'm a Fan of getoffmedz permalink

mphalen - yep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 08/24/2007
- VictorLudorum See Profile I'm a Fan of VictorLudorum permalink

Border to border are implications that were examined by weaker leards however mentor they may seem to the leaders today! Pakistan has a very thin width although the secularist military leadership might not find it so easy to re-instate the regimes ..The question is tele-communications that can be interrupted by govts and International Organisations and that might take US Army chasing Osama to India! lol!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 08/23/2007
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic permalink


From the article:

"Told of the guidelines, Pakistani military spokesman Maj. Gen. Waheed Arshad said, "This is all nonsense. Pakistan never allowed the coalition forces to enter into our territory while chasing militants. There was no such agreement, there was no such understanding."

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Bwahahahahaha!

Let Busharraf try to explain that to his people. I love it.

The dictator just barely got through one crisis, this might ignite another.

That Bus ranch in Paraguay might get rented soon!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 08/23/2007
- ownsthepodium See Profile I'm a Fan of ownsthepodium permalink

The dictator? How stupid are you in real life? Surely not as dumb as you appear to be here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 08/23/2007
- speakingtruth2power See Profile I'm a Fan of speakingtruth2power permalink

Look at Hume Skeptic's fan list you schmuck!

He is well respected here, just as you aren't!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 08/23/2007
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