Top GOP Leader: Bush Employs Thousands Of Undocumented Workers

Washington Times   |  Stephan Dinan   |   August 23, 2007 09:02 AM


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If President Bush is serious about getting tough on U.S. employers who hire illegal aliens, he can start with his own administration, which employs thousands of unauthorized workers, says the top Republican on the House immigration subcommittee.

A 2006 audit showed federal, state and local governments are among the biggest employers of the half-million persons in the U.S. illegally using "non-work" Social Security numbers -- numbers issued legally, but with specific instructions that the holders are not authorized to work in the U.S.

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Generally speaking undocumented aliens work for less. That is why Bushie and the other corporate whores do nothing substantive about the borders.Money is more important than people and always has been until the poor rise up.Too bad the people, Generally speaking,people in the U.S. are egocentric to do this .The secret to enslaving a people; Numb their brains with T.V. Reality shows, and Fox just to name a few. Replace everyone with illegals slowly. that way when your job is gone you can say " What happened."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 08/23/2007
- Paul I'm a Fan of Paul 32 fans permalink

The only answer is to close the borders. Anyone who says illegal immigration can be controlled in other ways is dreaming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 08/23/2007

The most effective way to stop this is to fine the crap out of businesses that employ illegal immigrants. I'm not talking about $1000 fines. Fine them a few hundred thousand dollars the first time, second time that price goes up to half a million, third time shut them down completely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 08/23/2007

The secret is coming out, isn't it?

I can't imagine still living in Poland if the USA did not INVITE the people it needs to work the mies, the factories, etc.

Do we not NEED the same workers now?

Why don't we just invite them to come in legally?

Why quota's ?

Seems to me the biz folks have it wired. IF WE INVITED them --- they would have to PAY them what they are worth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 08/23/2007
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Corporations and Buisnesses are licensed.
That would make it easy.




Got Rope?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 08/23/2007
- DrDoom I'm a Fan of DrDoom 26 fans permalink
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Absolutely the laws are already in place, there is no need for more legislation, just enforcement.

What I want to see is them cracking down on the average home-owner who hires the guys that hang out at Home Depot or Lowe's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 08/23/2007

No, figure out how many payroll taxes they've skipped out on and make them pay it back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 08/23/2007
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1627 fans permalink
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The only answer is to close the borders.
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All the lettuce would rot. It wouldn't get picked. Houses wouldn't get built, or would be too expensive for most to afford. And many other similar consequences. That's why we don't close the borders.

It's biznis, as they say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 08/23/2007
- grainger5 I'm a Fan of grainger5 5 fans permalink

At first, those things would happen. Many businesses will go under as owners decide that they cannot by the same amount of steaks with their profits, but there will be some companies that will survive. The pioneering owners of those companies will make less of a profit, because now they'll have to pay a living wage and employ citizens. The trade off may be the elimination of unions, as government would impose an economic fairness doctrine and enforce it with fines and closure for non compliance. Prices would go up, and at first there would be virtually no profits. But over time, they'd get used to it, the same way we've gotten used to high gas prices.

Later, as competition takes hold, prices will stabilize, and may even go down. Profits and variety will increase. It will be a very different world, putting more emphasis on the greater good than individual greed.

One of the major factors that cause governments to support business is the monetary contributions that those businesses make to politicians. If this practice is eliminated, there would be no incentive to support law breaking companies.

And at the borders, anyone who wanted to become a citizen still could, using a streamlined procedure that requires new citizen applicants to take English classes and pass them before approval.

My point is, if we took GREED out of the equation, we could eliminate the source of illegal immigration and at the same time strengthen our country and finances.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 08/23/2007

That's the biggest hypocrisy of the US imm. system, "the welcome to the US", with a non worker soc. security you cannot work but can stay in the US, how are you going to support yourself? working for pennies, so who's happy? the business people, of course, meanwhile people are bashing against the immigrants, it's an easier way than going after corporation.

This gives a bad message to immigrants who are crossing thinking that they will overcome borders and gain financially anyway.

I am currently in Europe and you can see in subways major bilboard advertising for the green card lotto,

Who's really to blame?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 08/23/2007

"How are you going to support yourself?"

Answer: You're NOT expected to. Read the restrictions again. You cannot legally work without proper legal documentation. Without it you are expected to be supported by whoever doesn't feel that you are a burden.

Or, you could go home.

But don't stay and use false documentation to illegally get a job.


Zbojnik

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 08/23/2007
- peterg76 I'm a Fan of peterg76 33 fans permalink
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"If President Bush is serious..."

That opening always ends badly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 08/23/2007
- MikeDu I'm a Fan of MikeDu 149 fans permalink
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In Bush's defense (God help me) he is the one who's trying for some sort of logical guest worker program - its the RNC that's been beating the drum to turn undocumented workers into the boogey man, no doubt to charge their redneck base for the election season - then the subject will be dropped (again) til next election year.

What is the military's policy towards recruiting resident aliens? I recall in my state the wife of a soldier serving in Iraq was being threatened with deportation. I see a fair numer of hispanic surnames whenever lists of killed are published.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 08/23/2007
- Euromutt I'm a Fan of Euromutt 13 fans permalink

Mike,
Ask yourself why Bush is trying to create a guest worker program. It is NOT because he's a nice guy, or a fair guy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 08/23/2007
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1627 fans permalink
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He's a Big Corporation President. That's why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 08/23/2007
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1627 fans permalink
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It is clear that all Iraqis that we don't like, including women and children, are al Qaeda.

Now, if we can just extend that definition to Mexican immigrants, we can solve this "problem" quite easily.

Just have Blackwater shoot them all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 08/23/2007
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Perhaps bush does not trust Americans to be around him so he surrounds himself with illegal aliens.
It would not be a supprise to find his ss agents were illegal as well. Afterall this would be one of those jobs that Americans won't do.

The United States of America is a Soverign Nation and as such has the right and Duty to enforce immigration laws to protect it's citizens.
If the citizens of these other countries want to have a better life they should look to their own countries leaders. Did we not have a revolution in this nation for just that purpose?



Got Rope?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 08/23/2007
- Meah I'm a Fan of Meah 52 fans permalink
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To hang yourself?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 08/23/2007
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So! You don't believe in a soverign U.S.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 08/23/2007
- nativist I'm a Fan of nativist 2 fans permalink

Once again, they aren't "undocumented workers". They're illegal aliens pure and simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 08/23/2007
- Beelzebul I'm a Fan of Beelzebul 61 fans permalink
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If they were illegals as you say, Mr. Bush wouldn't be fighting to have them stay as GUEST workers.

They're our guests and should be treated as any other guest.

You libs are pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 08/23/2007
- Meah I'm a Fan of Meah 52 fans permalink
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You call yourself nativist because.....

You are a Native American?

I effin doubt that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 08/23/2007
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And your definition of a 'nativist' is American Indian? Now, that's good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 08/23/2007
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 133 fans permalink
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Well of course he employees them, he probably hand picked them in Mexico while on one of his many visits to Fox's estate. Now he's going back to get more for his 98,000.00 acre ranch in Paraguay! For Bush their just like getting a bunch of widgets, they are cheap and there are so many of them. Maybe we better build a fence around his house!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 08/23/2007
- Beelzebul I'm a Fan of Beelzebul 61 fans permalink
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Duncan Hunter is an opportunist looking to boost his flagging presidential campaign.

Mr. Bush should completely ignore him like he does the libs. If Hunter were a true Republican, he'd support come out in support of Undocumented Workers. They're a valuable asset to us Young Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 08/23/2007
- DrDoom I'm a Fan of DrDoom 26 fans permalink
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You are absolutely correct with it there weren't undocumented workers who would scrub the toilets at the nations Fraternities?

What, you think they would make a Young Republican pledge clean them when the party provides Manuel labor? perish the thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 08/23/2007

I don't get it. You either have an immigration law or not. You either need a green card and a proper social security number or not. THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING IN BETWEEN. Otherwise you don't need to make any laws. When you start discussing if the national anthem should get a spanish version you have had it with America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 08/23/2007
- gakabani I'm a Fan of gakabani 20 fans permalink
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Agree. However, let us ponder about the economical consequences to the USA economy. Do you think the government is willing to increase the minimum wage to $10/hr and corresponding benefits?
The lobby industry pushes very hard for amnesty rather than a comprehensive reform. It is cheaper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 08/23/2007

Why would government have to increase the minimum wage? If you have unskilled or sem-skilled workers who are legally entitled to work, let the market decide.

If an employer cannot take advantage of the fears of exposure inherent in the illegal-employment dynamic, then they have no bargaining chip --- they will have to pay a libving wage or have no one to do the jobs.

See how illegals hurt the economy?

Zbojnik

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 08/23/2007
- misterbone I'm a Fan of misterbone 18 fans permalink

Did you know America is a Spanish word?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 08/23/2007

Your a moron MisterBone or should you change it to MR.BONEHEAD!! South America and North America were named after Amerigo Vespucci in 1507. Amerigo Vespucci was an Italian explorer

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 08/23/2007
- gakabani I'm a Fan of gakabani 20 fans permalink
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Check http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Américo_Vespucio

We are all immigrants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 08/23/2007
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Well, we've accepted pressing 1 for English...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 08/23/2007
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 08/23/2007
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No wonder government DOESN'T want to deal with the immigration "mess" but instead desires Amnesty!

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 08/23/2007

Sometimes I wonder if granting amnesty isn't just a way for congress to grant amnesty to itself for not having correctly managed our borders.

Zbojnik

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 08/23/2007

I am sure Bush will deport all the aliens back to Scotland. Just like Willie the janitor.
The cheese eating surrender monkey.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 08/23/2007
- gakabani I'm a Fan of gakabani 20 fans permalink
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The economical disparities that have been imposed to many Latin-American countries by the USA, World Bank, and IMF has led to this degree of economical inequity in the USA (low minimal wages).
Mexican illegals poor into the USA looking for better wages that cannot be found in Mexico or Central-America due to the long-term financial attritional policies.

In Mexico many attribute this historical problem to economical colonialism (Banana Republics).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 08/23/2007

This is one of the most circular and confused arguments I have read in a long time.

Have you any understanding of economies of scale?

What do you think free trade and the long term results of relocating American companie's production facilities in Mexico and other Latin American countries will be?

Why are the development loan policies of the World Bank and the IMF creating economic inequality?

Perhaps you would prefer that they not exist at all?
What would that do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 08/23/2007
- gakabani I'm a Fan of gakabani 20 fans permalink
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Economical growth does not mean having maquiladoras on the border. I hope you remember when American companies were here in Mexico during the 80 and 90 producing a vast amount of products that were shipped to the USA under the NAFTA agreement.

Unfortunately, they are all gone to China leaving many mexican workers out to dry. The issue is that maquiladoras were never integrated into the mexican economy as many wished for under NAFTA. Thus so far, Mexico has failed to integrate its economy with the USA and Canada. Population growth has forced many Mexicans to search for jobs elsewhere in the USA yielding lower minimum wages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 08/23/2007
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