Armstrong Forum Skipped By Candidates With "Close Personal History" With Cancer

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Several presidential candidates are gathering in Iowa this week for a pair of forums spearheaded by cancer survivor and seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong. But at least three top-tier candidates with personal histories with the disease -- John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, and Barack Obama -- are not attending.

Yesterday on NBC's Meet the Press, Armstrong spoke out:

ARMSTRONG: I spoke to most of them personally. Either scheduling conflicts or family time. You know, for me, listen, I'm not going to sugar-coat it, it's a disappointment. When you -- when you can't show up or you, for whatever reason, won't show up and discuss such a devastating illness, it is a disappointment, especially when you have a close personal history.

Giuliani and McCain have both suffered from cancer, and Obama's mother died of ovarian cancer in 1995.

According to the Des Moines Register, McCain is on vacation and Giuliani has scheduling conflicts. USA Today reports that Obama will be with his family.

"Listen, all I can go on is what they tell us: scheduling conflicts," Armstrong told the Register. "We all know where they are. But what is more important than the No. 1 killer in the country?

Attending the forum today are Democrats Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich and Bill Richardson. On Tuesday, Republican candidates Mike Huckabee and Sam Brownback will appear.

You can read the official Armstrong Foundation blog HERE.

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I thought heart disease killed more than all cancers combined?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 AM on 08/28/2007

Lance Armstrong rides bicycles in France and now our Presidential candidates are obligated to attend his forums?

Whatever man...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 08/28/2007

Genmalia, I agree with your assessment except that HRC couldn't get healthcare reform through a democratic control congress and if you read Carl Bernstein book, Hillary turned off alot of Democrats with her haughty style especially now majority leader, Harry Reid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 08/27/2007

and turning off men with a powerful woman's haughty style means what to us?If she were a male her haughty stle would be called decisive actions.Sorry but her abilty is never at issue.He rplan being formed only 17 months as opposed to 13 months before an election is a problem because?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 08/27/2007

Because she claims to be an expert on the matter (and I'll concede that if anything, Hillary is a machine at knowing her stuff), but she keeps talking about "My Plan" and how it's the best one, but we have nothing to go on but some old plan that never passed and was sponsored by lobbyists.

If her plan comes out and is genuinely better than anyone elses, I may change my tune, but that still won't give her my vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 09/06/2007


phoenix1964 - Hilary's plan didn't pass because it was garbage right from the get go. In deference to the office of the President and the first lady, the congress gave her plan a full hearing.

You will recall that Hilary's plan called for 50 state boards stuffed with political patronage, with 50 sets of regulations, and the whole thing smacked of a bureaucratic nightmare.

Hilary's real weakness is in not understanding that good intentions can sometimes do more harm than good. I worry when she talks about her administration "managing" things - like healthcare. Neither Hilary nor any pol she knows can "manage" healthcare. She needs to understand the concept of government as something other than "me good, him bad, therefore whatever I do is good." I'd rather have no medical plan than a bad one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 08/27/2007
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"I'd rather have no medical plan than a bad one."

Careful what you wish for... I hope your health plan isn't with your employer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 08/27/2007

I just watched Hillary Clinton at Lance's Forum and nobody comes close to her on knowledge and committment to health care.It is clear that she has championed this issue from her first job out of collge and spent a lifetime learning.This is not a fake it til you make it presentation she just gave.She knows the pitfalls and the solutions to them in health care and I commend her for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 08/27/2007

Odd, though, that she is one of the last ones to even have a health care policy availabel for review? It's true she fought for it as first lady, and I applauded her for that, but she didn't seek enough bi-partisan support, and the whole plan crashed and burned.

What makes you think she can get it passed as president if she hasn't been able to even come up with a plan in the years since her last try?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 08/27/2007


Hilary was being interviewed by Lance and Chris Matthews when I tuned in to MSNBC and I was riveted to the screen. I was able to watch her finish and see about 15/20 minutes of Edwards' portion who spoke after Hilary.

It was very interesting. The crowd was great. Hilary was very good. Her knowledge of detail is good and she is politically committed to revamping our apalling health care system. I only worry what the messianic tendencies in Hilary's personality will mean for us when she gets in office. Sometimes her language betrays a "we good, they bad" view of the world that is worrisome for somebody that is interested in an objective approach to political issues.

Edwards' views are obviously evolving to the better. He knows that real, meaningful action is required, not a patch here, a patch there, as the Republicans would have us believe. I think he gets it.

Obama needs a campaign staff that will have him ready for events like this. Anybody who saw it was impressed and must have wondered why the other candidates were not present.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 08/27/2007

What makes you think she can get it passed as president if she hasn't been able to even come up with a plan in the years since her last try?
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several reasons that are based on facts not politcal innendo.First she will be president not first lady.Second our nation is now ready for this as well as big auto and major corporations.Third she is following an administration that is so corrupt they have breached the wallets of America's untouchable groups.The senior with the donut hole on Medicare Part D and our veterans.Now the dialogue is open along with the ears of America and America's corporations.That is why she will get it done this time when she is president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 08/27/2007

I care a lot a more about a candidate's health care reform plans, and whether that candidate has the abilities to bring people together to get such a plan effected, than whether the candidate shows up at another forum to pander for votes. Sorry, Lance, that Barack (and McCain and Guiliani) appear at your forum, but the presence or absence of candidates at the forum is not a measure of commitment to health care reform.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 08/27/2007

I thought the number one killer in this country was George Bush.

Speaking of cancer, wouldn't he be the poster boy as the greatest cancer growing within our country?

Lance, if you could assure the boys of a large enough audience all three would be there with bells on their toes...the fact is, more people know about your forum now because these three have bailed. Take advantage of the increased coverage to highlight those who have been beneficial to the research - or raising of funds - and those who haven't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 08/27/2007

It might be a good occasion to talk about your Health Care Plan - if you have one.

As seen in SiCKO, there's many Americans with cancer, but w/o any chance of getting a top-notch therapy.

You could talk about the survival rate of cancer patients as a function of their income.

You could also talk about the fact that malnutrition and bad working place safety can increase your cancer risk.

You could talk about health as a race and class issue.

Or you don't attend for fear of further gaffes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 08/27/2007

Edwards addressed all of the issues you just mentioned. He was roundly applauded by the audience because his plan makes so much sense and it is so comprehensive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 08/27/2007

Is this the guy that dumped his first wife after she stood by him and while he pursued what he wanted out of life and them dumped his girlfriend after she announced she had cancer? With all the prominent steroid use in his sport and the link between steroid use and testicular cancer I really have a hard time considering him a hero. My father died of cancer when I was 12 so I know the toll it takes on families. I just don't think Lance Armstrong is the right spokeperson. I think he enjoys to spotlight to much and that makes me skeptical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 08/27/2007
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YAH SOCIAL CLIMBER
PROBABLY WANTS TO BE THE PRESIDENT SOME DAY....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 08/27/2007
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ARMSTRONG IS A LIAR AND A CHEATER...

I'M GETTING SOME RESPECT BACK FOR OBAMA FOR DECLINING....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 08/27/2007

You have about as much proof of that as the French labs... NONE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 08/27/2007

Gabrielle must be a Jan Ullrich fan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 08/27/2007

Barak Obama is 100% right for opting out of this as well as all these other debates. Enough is enough. We know where he stands on the issues. What's another debate gonna tell us. What could come of this cancer forum? Let me guess. .Barak will tell us he is against cancer. Rudy Guiliani is against cancer. Oh my gosh.

redwolverine
http://copiousdissent.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 08/27/2007

What a pity you didn't actually watch the Forum before uttering this idiocy. It so happens that the questioning by Matthews and Armstrong went far beyond Cancer issues. John Edwards gave incredibly clear answers about his plans for a Universal Health Care program.
Which by the way, Obama's plan has plenty of holes in his plan and maybe that is why he skipped the Forum.

Hillary pontificated as usual and considering she hasn't even put forth a Health Care Plan, I cannot grasp why she was even there. Well, yes I can grasp why she was there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 08/27/2007

I was at the Livestrong Forum and consider it the most valuable presentation I have ever seen.

Chris Matthews and Lance Armstrong were forceful and serious with the candidates, asking for their policy and insisting they be clear and committed. No one could have left that forum without realizing what a national crisis we have in health care and without knowing how little has been done about this horrible disease.

Cancer affects one in three personally and almost everyone when friends or family are considered. It not only strips people of their health but their wellbeing causing 50% of the bankruptcies in this country because of the astronomical cost of catastrophic illness.
Financial hardship does not even spare those who are insured because the insurance companies do everything they can to not pay.

Cancer is not a political issue; it is a national emergency.

I can see the candidates who chose not to attend, skipping other debates but not this one. Their choice is unconscionable and shows lack of concern for a problem so huge, neither they nor any other person in the United States will escape.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 08/28/2007

I was at the Livestrong Forum and consider it the most valuable presentation I have ever seen.

Chris Matthews and Lance Armstrong were forceful and serious with the candidates, asking for their policy and insisting they be clear and committed. No one could have left that forum without realizing what a national crisis we have in health care and without knowing how urgent the need is to find a cure for this horrible disease.

Cancer affects one in three personally and almost everyone when friends or family are considered. It not only strips people of their health but their wellbeing causing 50% of the bankruptcies in this country because of the astronomical cost of catastrophic illness. Financial hardship does not even spare those who are insured because the insurance companies do everything they can to not pay.

Cancer is not a political issue; it is a national emergency.

I can see the candidates who chose not to attend, skipping other debates but not this one. Their choice is unconscionable and shows lack of concern for a problem so huge, neither they nor any other person in the United States will escape.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 AM on 08/28/2007

So what? Who cares? As if the government doesn't give enough money to cancer research anyway? This is a non story. I find Armstrong to be very unlikeable. Nevertheless his personal story is compelling and his achievments on a bike are non -peril.

redwolverine
http://copiousdissent.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 08/27/2007
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