Dan Abrams Hits At Amanpour And CNN

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First Posted: 08-28-07 12:29 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:44 AM

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2007-08-28-DanAbramshitsatCNN.jpgWow - last night MSNBC host (and network GM) Dan Abrams took aim at CNN's Christiane Amanpour for her much-touted and well-rated three-part series, "God's Warriors," wherein Amanpour explores religious fundamentalism in the Middle East from the perspective of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Abrams, as it turns out, wasn't a fan: "CNN should have called it what it was: A defense of Islamic fundamentalism and the worst type of moral relativism."
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For each of three nights, CNN devoted two hours to the, quote, "warriors" of each religion: Jewish, Christian and Muslim. But rather than distinguish between Islamic terrorists who utilize fierce violence to achieve warped goals, and the merely fiercely religious or even just those who fiercely believe in the state of Israel, Christiane Amanpour avoided getting bogged down in objectivity. Christians and Jews, for example, who support Israel's strategy for self-defense are just as much God's warriors, according to Amanpour, as the Islamic radicals who blow themselves and others up in an effort to destroy the world as we know it. A handful of the most radical of the Jews and Christians who can almost all be identified by name are highlighted. The violent Islamic fundamentalists are, quote, "understood," with no comparable effort to "understand" the evangelical Christians or Israelis.

Abrams noted this particular setup by Amanpour:

AMANPOUR: Muslims, like people everywhere, abhor terrorism. The small minority who resorts to violence is symptomatic of something many of us have failed to understand: the impact of God's Jewish warriors goes far beyond these rocky hills. The Jewish settlements have inflamed much of the Muslim world.

These issues are wildly divisive and super controversial, but that's a construction that begins with a sense of Muslim peacability and ends with Jewish culpability, implying that whatever has rocked that naturally peaceful boat is attributable to "the impact of God's Jewish warriors." Abrams rightly notes that undercurrent of blame.

It's a thoughtful and smart deconstruction, noting how Amanpour casts Muslims as victims of post-9/11 discrimination (which, as Abrams notes, is a point well taken, except not central to the examination of fundamentalist warrior culture which, er, existed before 9/11).

I did not see Amanpour's series so my ability to critique it begins and ends at whatever Abrams showed — presumably himself selectively, obviously. I can say, however, that the framing as excerpted by Abrams seems markedly (and surprisingly, I will say) slanted toward an equalization of the three groups of warriors, not necessarily with regard to their membership, and their methods. That, howver, is my take on Abrams' take on Amanpour's take — so go ahead and have yours: Video courtesy of CAMERA here; transcript courtesy of NewsBusters here.

Related:
Christiane Amanpour's God's Warriors, "the Jews," and "the Occupied Territories": Is this for Real? [HuffPo]

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Saw it on live tv and was shock and to learn to see spin on my tv...I thought there were just myths but I was gasp to see how mister abrams was spinning this, after all he was or is a laywer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 08/30/2007
- plutorage I'm a Fan of plutorage 12 fans permalink

So the foreign correspondent on the war channel (CNN) stirs up a blogging war with a piece on "religious warriors". Good for business.

And of course nobody is happier to jump into the fray than Israeli apologists like Dan Abrams who just love to keep this conflict going, and if they can get the whole world involved in the ridiculous conflict then so much the better.

Yes, Dan, the problem began with US/Europe/European Jews deciding they would make up their very own new country with flags, territories, etc. after WWII in the Palestinian region and call it Israel. How can anyone deny that the present conflict is based on those decisions taken unilaterally by US, Europeans, Jews, without the consent of the Arab population of Palestine. It is ridiculous to say otherwise.

Imagine that you lived in Miami and one day the United Nations tells you that you are now part of Cuba. What are you supposed to do, abandon your property and go, where???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 08/29/2007
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 48 fans permalink

The best comment on this blog suggested giving the articulate, atheist, Christopher Hitchens, a series. Mr Hitchens & his agent may be willing to listen to proposals from the monied. Try him. TV is getting to be most boring.
As for Mr Hitchins drinking, find out what it is & send a case to each writer for TV. Paraphrased & stolen from A Lincoln's comments on Gen Grant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 08/29/2007
- dapaul I'm a Fan of dapaul 4 fans permalink

Christopher has a Jewish mother and considers himself Jewish. Hence his rants aginst Arabs and Muslims, and his support for Bush's war. He is not objective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 08/29/2007

The CNN series was objective and held my attention those nights that it aired. I also watched Abrams comments the other night and was floored by what he said. His remarks were defensive, why? Dude, get over yourself, God loves us all. Also, Dan you're not a very good interviewer, your content is too tabloid. Did you make those comments for ratings?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 08/29/2007
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Self-confessed bottom-feeder Abrams trying to critique Amanpour is sandbox fun at best. She told it the way she felt it and Abrams bleats away with his super-predictable shallow opinion as to how she "tilts" toward "moral equivalency". Such crap.

Just remember the bottom-feeder part - that's the only salient point here - and Abrams made it himself.

But the rug's nice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 08/29/2007

Kudos to Dan Abrums for calling out CNN on its appologist appraoch to Islamic Jihad. Amanpour actually said the murder of Theo Van Gough gave "ammunition" to secularists. Is she kidding?

Dan Abrums had the courage to critique CNN for this bias reporting when no other network did. Good job Danny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 08/29/2007
- arkgrfx61 I'm a Fan of arkgrfx61 4 fans permalink

I was thoroughly impressed with Christine's series. I am Jewish and I felt she was not blaming anyone, but showing each side in a very fair and unbiased manner. It was the people themselves that told their stories.

Excellent post Epotruch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 AM on 08/29/2007

Its hard to say wether Amanpour is smart or stupid? She still appears on news shows giving reports on Bin Laden and Al Queda like they were "real" terrorist entities insead of a see through fairytale by the Bush Regime.May­be she is forced to play their game?

Also when Amanpour asked Jimmy Carter why the US Govt doesn't cut off aid to Israel,Carter was allowed to say only that US Congressmen would lose thier seats if they voted for such a measure.Ca­rter wasn't allowed to say that it certainly wouldn't be the majority of US citizens who would vote down these politicians for boycotting Israel!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 08/28/2007

Why did you even bother to write about someone's else's opinion of a show you didn't even see? Is Dan Abrams silly rants even commenting on. Just realized you wrote that silly piece about Rosie O'Donnell being a "bully".. are you sure you are working for the right website? Oh brother...­how silly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 08/28/2007

I saw parts of all three episodes. I hope to watch all of all three parts this weekend (thank you TiVo). I also saw Abram's comments and some other highly-vested, unhappy commenters on another program.

That said, if I were going to write about how I felt about someone else's take on a program I have not seen based on the excerpts they selected (and I wouldn't), I would mention that I did not see the program in the first paragraph instead of the last. When I read the first six words of the last paragraph, Rachel, I cursed you. And I'm a fan. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 08/29/2007
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Didn't catch Abrams' piece. I saw most of Amanpour's series and found it pretty informative, frequently infuriating, and for the most part, fair.
As a Jew, I am well aware of the radical acts of some Jews who resort to terrorism to further their political agenda. I would say that these Jews' numbers are very small -- after all, there are only 12 million of us in the world.
The Muslim perspective that the West Bank and Gaza settlements have inflamed their anger is a fact, whether it's right or wrong. It fuels much of the jihadist violence against everyone not toeing that line.
I found her portrayal of Christians showed them to be just as deluded as the Muslims, but without the guns. They were truly dangerous folks, insinuating themselves into all levels of government to turn this country into Jesus-ville. That's where my fight will start and end.
Bottom line on the argument: conservatives want America to always be right, and libs always think we're wrong. Both are right, both are wrong. Deal with it and start talking to each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 08/28/2007
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

I'm not a jew like you but you don't need to apologize for anything. When the UN carved out the TWO nations in 1947 (Israel and Palestine) it wasn't the jews who reneged on the deal. Instead the arabs attacked the jews....Wh­en Bill Clinton cut a deal at the Camp David summit whereby the Palestinians would get 97% of the territory the arabs had prior the '67 Six-day War' it was NOT the Israel, rather Arafat who turned the deal down. Hey, the Palestinian people live in poverty but Arafat's wife gets a $5 million allowence yearly, so she can do her Paris shopping. And next to Israel and Egypt, the Palestinians got the most foreign aid. Where did it go? What do they have to show for it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 08/28/2007
- dapaul I'm a Fan of dapaul 4 fans permalink

The UN had no right to "carve" out a Jewsih state from palestinian territory, and therein lies the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 08/29/2007
- TRYKER I'm a Fan of TRYKER 70 fans permalink

Abrams was over the top with his condemnation, methinks he doth protest too much.
It must have upset him seeing the Jewish matron milking the Christians for bucks to continue building illegal settlements on land "God gave the Jews".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 08/28/2007

Amanpour's moral relativism makes me want to puke. It's always the Joooes fault, always the Christians fault, never ever the terrorists from the "religon of peace". So because Amanpour is a reporter that has been to dangerous places that makes her reporting above any criticism ? She has an agenda and there is nothing fair or accurate about her reporting, ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 08/28/2007

Did you actually watch any of the piece? Did you? There was plenty of citing "terrorists" and "murder" and "jihad" scattered throughout. Do you have the same level of condemnation for the Jewish terrorists who (just to name one) blew up the King David? Who killed and maimed the Palestinians who had nothing to do with anything they were seeking "revenge" for? Or "Christian" Tim McVeigh or Eric Rudolph, or the guy who shot Dr. Slepian?

Are those crickets I hear?

Go back to Faux Noise...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 08/28/2007
- kroses98 I'm a Fan of kroses98 13 fans permalink

I find her too shrill to listen to, for such a long program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 08/28/2007
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Jewish bigots who refuse to see the suffering they are causing throughout the middle east and around the world with their biblical claim on all land that the Bible according to them says belongs to Judea.

When a religious race of people continues to claim that they are the chosen ones it just smacks of self-righteous bigotry.

The Bar Mitzvah boy now running MSNBC is just giving us his knee jerk reaction to what his rabbi would have told him to say.

It is hard to believe that these otherwise intelligent people become blind to the pain and destruction being caused by the nation of Israel.

Instead of castigating the imperialistic adventures of there adopted new country they try to justify the barbaric behavior of these maniacs who not only crush the Palestinians but have recently bombed thousands of innocent Jordanian civilians.

These dyed in the wool Jews first crowd are going to lead us all to Armageddon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 08/29/2007
- morphizm I'm a Fan of morphizm 3 fans permalink

Amanpour will eat Abrams lunch. And then his dinner. And then his midnight snack. He's wrong on this one. And obviously biased.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 08/28/2007

Dan Abrams is less of a journalist and more of a talking head looking for Matt Lauer's gig.

Christiane Amanpour can teach him several things about reporting. Besides she is a least, not a anchor. She has been in the most dangerous places and covered wars more than Abrams whose probably covered "world-shattering events as OJ, MIchael Jackson, Anna Nicole trials. Wow, Dan! If you think that's journalism, don't even bother going on The Daily Show. Stewart will tear you a new one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 08/28/2007
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

What makes her so great? She's Iranian so naturally she'll be a little baised and put much of the blame on the jews and christians. Too bad she doesn't bring up all the Ba'hai's who've been murdered in Iran, the Buddhist monuments that have all been blown up, horse dung thrown on all 'crosses' and 'star of Davids', etc. And all the brainwashing of muslim children in hating christians and jews. Even to the point of straping bombs for suicidal missions. Everything is one-sided.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 08/28/2007
- dapaul I'm a Fan of dapaul 4 fans permalink

Christiane Amanpour is half-Iranian, half-British. She is Christian and married to a Jew. That makes her pretty objective in my view. On the other hand, Abrams is 100% Jewish, hence his POV is suspect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 08/29/2007

I time-shifted the piece, and am now more than slightly halfway through it. So far, I have seen chronology, historical fact, and active (and activist) Muslims speaking out in their own words. Amanpour, as credible a journalist as I have seen in recent years, is not "taking sides' in this so much as letting every participant tell his or her own story, and devoting her own energies to filling in the historical record.

I turned Abrams' rant off partway through last night. Clearly, this was someone who, in the guise of decrying someone else's lack of objectivity, was making no pretense of it himself. Pity he's on the same network that brings us Olbermann.

What Abrams, and Eisenman as well, are suggesting in reality is that Amanpour did not rain down a sufficient measure of nonstop derogation on the Islamic world for their tastes. I, for one, am glad she did not. I want to hear Muslims in their own words. It is by this that we might understand.

Eisenman and Abrams mock "understanding" while failing to realize that failure to understand any prospective "other" - be they competitor or adversary - is the very nadir of foolishness. It is by this that we may well be undone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 08/28/2007
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