Families Of Trapped Miners Rebuffed By Mine Safety Agency

Huffington Post   |  Max Follmer   |   August 28, 2007 07:55 PM


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The federal agency tasked with investigating the Utah mine collapse denied a request by the families of six trapped miners that the United Mine Workers represent them in the probe of the matter, the union said Monday.

All six of the families had signed documents designating the union as their representative in the investigation, UMWA spokesman Phil Smith said. The Mine Safety and Health Administration told the union's attorneys on Monday that the agency would not heed the request.

"MSHA requires that miners sign these papers, but the miners in question were unable because the are trapped inside the mine," Smith said.

In a statement e-mailed to The Huffington Post, MSHA spokesman Dirk Fillpot defended the agency's actions, saying federal officials have spent "untold hours" briefing the families of the missing miners.

"We are disappointed that the UMWA is trying to use a law enforcement investigation for its own purposes," Fillpot said.

Six miners have been trapped underground since a large cave-in at the mine in the early hours of Aug. 6. Underground efforts to reach the miners have been suspended since a subsequent collapse killed three rescue workers on Aug 16.

In any accident investigation, miners have the legal right to designate the union as their representative during the probe, even if the miners are not union members. Crandall Canyon is not a union mine, and the UMWA does not represent workers there.

In the aftermath of the Sago tragedy in 2006, the owner of that mine sought to block the union's access to the site, even though a group of miners appointed the UMWA as their representative. MSHA attorneys obtained a court order that compelled the mine owner to allow union officials onto the property.

The distinction being drawn in the Crandall Canyon situation is that the miners' families -- rather than the miners themselves -- signed the documents requesting the union's participation.

"The Mine Safety and Health Act is clear on who can seek representation in these investigations," Fillpot said.

Despite MSHA's decision, Smith said the union would continue to take an active role in the Crandall Canyon probe.

"The families still want us to be their representatives as this investigation goes forward," Smith said.

He dismissed the notion that UMWA was attempting to unionize Crandall Canyon workers. Smith pointed out that the mine's owner, Bob Murray, has already announced that the mine would be permanently idled.

"That never was and never has been our goal there," Smith said.

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- Ihaveadream See Profile I'm a Fan of Ihaveadream permalink

What a surprise!

Turn back the clock - weren't there terms and conditions in exchange for the monetary settlement from the Sept 11 Victims Compensation Fund? The deal was the families who accepted the compensation agreed agreed not to sue any of the airlines, building owners, etc, etc. - that is, Bush's base. Who do you think came up with that?

And talk about hypocritical - read this Mar 06 interview about the former Iran hostages seeking compensation. Our own state department intervened to prevent them being compensated from the Iranian assets that have been frozen for more than 25 years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2006/03/19/DI2006031900376.html

Here's the March 2006 article, titled Administration Blocks Ex-Hostages Bid for Damages Against Iran

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/18/AR2006031801126.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 08/29/2007
- keeks70 See Profile I'm a Fan of keeks70 permalink

i love my country, but i fear my government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 08/29/2007
- indypete See Profile I'm a Fan of indypete permalink

"We are disappointed that the UMWA is trying to use a law enforcement investigation for its own purposes," Fillpot said.

How dare these people try to get protection under the law! We all know the law is there to protect the owner! These commie bastards in the union will stop at nothing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 08/29/2007
- OshkoshJohn See Profile I'm a Fan of OshkoshJohn permalink

If the now presumed dead miners were white hillbillies from Appalachia, the mine owner would be testifying to Congress. Since the deceased are probably immigrant Hispanics or possibly illegal aliens, they will just disappear under billions of tons of rock.

Also, if the mining engineers took out the coal that was an integral part of the support pillars of the mine . . . well that's just criminally stupid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 08/29/2007
- only1Demvoter See Profile I'm a Fan of only1Demvoter permalink

OshkoshJohn : Fortunately for Murray and his ilk ( as is most often the case in these collapse tragedies ), the evidence is buried along with that evidence's casualties.

Our thoughts go out to the Miner's families in the hope that your Loved Ones did NOT die in vain... And that the responsible people are brought to Justice for their negligence in causing the deaths of your Loved Ones.

Protect the Working Class!
More to follow. -ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 08/29/2007
- missjane See Profile I'm a Fan of missjane permalink

"UMWA is trying to use a law enforcement investigation for its own purposes," Fillpot said." Why is it that every time someone holds their foot to the fire, these Repub mouthpieces claim "political motivation", a la Bush's "out to destroy Gonzales" rambling whine.

Most of us ACTUALLY CARE about what happens to AMERICA & AMERICANS, and don't give a damn about your sordid little political lives and bullshit Party politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 08/29/2007
- laissezleswontonsbrulez See Profile I'm a Fan of laissezleswontonsbrulez permalink

Yeah, funny how the Rethugs belittle investigations as having political motivation when done by Dems, even when there is obvious evidence of wrongdoing, as if an act being "political" in the sense of benefitting one party in itself makes the act illegitimate.

Yet they make no pretense of this kind of neutrality themselves, clearly making every possible decision with partisan advantage in mind, and get indignant when those motivations are pointed out. Certainly nothing political about those Clinton investigations, or the recent purges in the Justice [sic] Department.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 08/29/2007
- ownthepress See Profile I'm a Fan of ownthepress permalink

I am happy to read the positive sentiment for the union here. Remember this catastrophe and how the United Mine Workers are trying to assist these families the next time you see a strike, picket, or an organizing drive in your area. They need your support. Unions are one of the only tools we have to support workers, and Bush & Co would like nothing more than for the rest of us to turn our backs on their struggles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 08/29/2007
- helonias See Profile I'm a Fan of helonias permalink

I guess that whats happens to folks who are not one of the 5 finest Americans and don't have the 13 pieces of silver to buy that designation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 08/29/2007
- drhammer See Profile I'm a Fan of drhammer permalink

Murray can now sell the mine to the government so they can contract Halliburton to turn it into a detention center.

(Pass the tinfoil, please.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 08/29/2007
- kilnwmn See Profile I'm a Fan of kilnwmn permalink

All this from the "family values" Bush & their "loyal" cronies regime...what kind of idiot still believes this family values stuff from them???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 08/29/2007
- vippy See Profile I'm a Fan of vippy permalink

And I agree with PAIGE. That rumor is not dying so it must be true, makes sense!
But don't forget that Clinton was Bush's drug
runner in Arkansas, his ticket to get out of
Arkansas and here we want to vote for another Clinton. Have they no shame? Are we stupid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 08/29/2007
- WesLee See Profile I'm a Fan of WesLee permalink

Why would the MSHA not want the UMWA to represent the miners? Well if the UMWA were representing the miners. The MSHA would have to answer questions from people who have experience in mineing and dealing with government agencies. It's so much better for the MSHA to deal with the families directly because they can be more easily intimidated and they probably don't know the right questions to ask. Especially when it comes to the technical aspects of mining.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 08/29/2007
- laissezleswontonsbrulez See Profile I'm a Fan of laissezleswontonsbrulez permalink

Exactly right - much harder to do a white-wash investigation with actual miners (that is where the union reps come from) in the room.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 08/29/2007
- aztecfrench See Profile I'm a Fan of aztecfrench permalink

This is another ridicolous mistake by our Government. To deny represantation to a missing person because he/she is not available to sign a request in such a high profile case is simply a step in the wrong direction.

These relatives only need to retain the lawyers that the union recomends and such lawyers only need to appoint the union experts to do the investigating on their behalf, to get about the same results.

Perhaps unions have not been the best thing for capitalism in the past but we are not in the past, today's capitalism has to be stopped/modified/impreoved/humanised, and a Unions can be just the right tool to help us accomplish such job.

Unions and Governments are for the people by the people and we, the people have been derelict too long in our responsability to hold the Government accountable to our needs. This situation is clearly just another sad and clear example.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 08/29/2007
- Blueseahorse See Profile I'm a Fan of Blueseahorse permalink

why should I be surprised, when the American Dream is to lie, cheat and swindle to become a
"have more", so that you can then lie, cheat and swindle the "have nots"? If the great virtue is to "exploit" resources, don't you think that includes
exploiting "human" resources. When human resources can't be "exploited" any more, they're disgarded. Murray's heart and other coal miner owners, it appears have hearts as black as the coal they so treasure. It goes all the way to the top of the energy food chain, including the top energy CEOs Bush and top dog, CHENEY. (he, we all know, has no heart). P.S. something is in the planning stage to steall 2008 election (again)...stop Iran crisis, perhaps?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 AM on 08/29/2007
- Jason357 See Profile I'm a Fan of Jason357 permalink

So, the trick is to just make sure all of the miners die in the accident, to avoid union involvement. The typical guy on the street has no way to defend himself against the corporate beasts of the US. Justice in America is only what you can afford to buy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 AM on 08/29/2007
- Witchitalineman See Profile I'm a Fan of Witchitalineman permalink

..."MSHA requires that miners sign these papers, but the miners in question were unable because the are trapped inside the mine,"...

What in the hell is wrong with this picture? I have never ever seen the level of incompetenc, bureaucratic slobs that are in control of this government and administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 AM on 08/29/2007
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