Air Traffic Controllers Tell FAA They're Dangerously Understaffed, Overworked

Associated Press   |  MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN   |   September 2, 2007 05:17 PM


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FAA figures show the number of fully certified controllers dropped to 11,467 in May -- the lowest in a decade the union says. Beside them in control centers are 3,300 so-called "developmental controllers" who are being trained on the job by other controllers. The trainees are not yet qualified for all work assignments required of fully certified controllers.

"They are pushing the envelope and somebody is going to snap," Forrey warned. "Unless the agency slows down the traffic, someone may make a mistake and then are they going to blame it on the controller?"

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- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

The Reagan policy not only hurt the workers, it hurt the airlines. They have gone out of business
right an left because of deregulation and hostile corporate takeovers that anti-trust should have outlawed. Meanwhile Virgin Air in Socialist England has thrived and is invading the US market as our ailine companies fail.

Branson says he will soon run ethanol jets at Virgin. American Airlines and Delta say they can't make enough profit to make the investment in altrnate fuels and still pay their CEOs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 09/03/2007
- ceasenake See Profile I'm a Fan of ceasenake

Socialist is right! Part of the Branson success is due to taxpayer subsidy.

1.3 Billion pounds - what's that $ 3 Billion dollars?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20061214/ai_n16906972/pg_1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 09/04/2007
- researcher See Profile I'm a Fan of researcher

thank reagan for that the great communicator.

things have been going down hill since he broke up the union and deregulated the airlines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 09/02/2007
- robodweeb See Profile I'm a Fan of robodweeb

Hey, ya gotta pay for those tax cuts somehow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 09/02/2007
- shaefromTn See Profile I'm a Fan of shaefromTn

Thanks to the actor Ronald Reagan!!!

One of the things the repukes did to break the unions!!!!!!

Wake up America to the repukes devious ways to make this a 2 class society the have's and the have nots!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 09/02/2007
- kellygrrrl See Profile I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl

welcome to Mexico

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 09/02/2007
- Crozier See Profile I'm a Fan of Crozier

Mexico- why stop there....all the way to Chile and the Argentines and you have the history of Latin American fascism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 09/02/2007
- Crozier See Profile I'm a Fan of Crozier

Ronnie Raygun - who before he married Nancy with the Republican stepfather - was a liberal Democrat and a union president.

In 1981, Raygun fired the Air Traffic Controllers on strike. The scabs he hired spent 25 years and guess what : 2007 has arrived.

The Corporatists only want scabs without rights doing any work anywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 09/02/2007
- grainger5 See Profile I'm a Fan of grainger5

But that's not the funny part. The funny part is that those scabs that have been toiling in the airports earning $5.25 an hour will not be eligible for a pension. And boy, are they ever hopping mad! Tee hee!

*gulp*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 09/02/2007
- jake106 See Profile I'm a Fan of jake106

Oh B.S. The ATC community is one of the highest paid in the country. The military can't keep them in long enough because once they earn all their certs in the military they can get out and earn 100 grand, starting pay. It isn't scabs or PATCO's fired 25 years ago, it is no one, I mean NO ONE, shelling out the money to replace 30-40 year old Radar systems and control towers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 09/02/2007
- OrvilleHLarson See Profile I'm a Fan of OrvilleHLarson

A suggestion: Why not get rid of the bloated, bullshit Department of Homeland Security and devote its money to the FAA's air traffic control system?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 09/02/2007
- abbiehoffmansghost See Profile I'm a Fan of abbiehoffmansghost

Ronald Reagan vs. George W. Bush. Dumb vs. Dumber. History will laugh and laugh and laugh....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 09/02/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

Or cry. Do you laugh or cry about Nero and Caligula?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 09/03/2007
- SouthpawSass See Profile I'm a Fan of SouthpawSass

Back in 1980, the air traffic controllers union, PATCO, went on strike. Most of PATCO"s grievances were for safer working conditions, a 32-hr work week, updated computer equipment, and retirement after 20 years of service. The U.S. controllers were the only ones worldwide forced to work 40-hr weeks. They also worked 8 hr shifts without breaks and had mandatory overtime up to 20 hours each week.
What many people don"t know is that PATCO endorsed Reagan with his promise he would do all he could for them. However, he chose corporate America over the Americans who trusted him. He fired 13,000 men and women for demanding safer working conditions. With the help of Drew Lewis (Sec. of Transportation), Reagan"s assault on working class Americans began. A legacy George Bush and those Republican candidates wish to emulate.
Imagine being responsible for the safety of a dozen or so airplanes, carrying hundreds of people. You"re sitting there in your tower, watching little dots on a screen all fluttering around, and all of a sudden, the screen goes black. Equipment failure. Stress? You bet.

Then they had the audacity to name an airport after the guy¦ Reagan sucked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 09/02/2007
- seasalt See Profile I'm a Fan of seasalt

Just one more chance for Baby Bush to show American that government doesn't work.

Which is true, when he is in charge.


Worst. Administration. Ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 09/02/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

Bush could take that tack. He could say government screwed up the war and privatize it. ring the boys home and fight it with Blackwater mercenaries who get $3,000 a week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 09/03/2007
- kellygrrrl See Profile I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl

Right, but in their minds:
"Best. War. Ever."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 09/02/2007
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic



The Reagan legacy lives on. This is just one of the minor effects of the destruction of our country he started - the destruction that Bush is trying to complete.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 09/02/2007
- kellygrrrl See Profile I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl

I don't know if Raygun started it, but he sure did a lot to solidify "the movement"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 09/02/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

Barry Goldwater started it, but when he said he would eliminate Social Security, No taxes on the rich, Welfare, and Unions and use Nukes in Vietnam he lost by a landslide. Reagan lied about his war on Social Security.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 09/03/2007
- ceasenake See Profile I'm a Fan of ceasenake

The PATCO strike that was broken by Reagan was 25 years ago.

Most of the PATCO strikers would be retired and/or dead by now.

If the Repub Admins are the problem with the Airline industry, what was happening during the Clinton years - 1992 to 2000 - besides BJ's in the oval office?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 09/02/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

Clinton was a Republican masquerading as a Democrat. Clinton did not reverse one Reagan program. In fact Clinton signed Welfare Reform completing Reagan destruction of the Social Safety net. The right not to be permanently replaced when striking was not reclaimed by Clinton. Clinton signed NAFTA for @##$%^ sake. Clinton was so anti-union it was sickening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 09/03/2007
- fedupwiththis See Profile I'm a Fan of fedupwiththis

Excuse me. Haven't we been here before. The ATC situation has been SNAFU since St. Ronald the Raygun fired all the pro's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 09/02/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

Reagan fired the Air Traffic controllers because they asked for less traffic and better equipment.
Another move is to make these rich dicks, who think they are the Red Baron, who fly general aviation, to carry transponders like the commercial planes do.

Another point. AWACs style control can vector planes point to point. An Aircraft carrier vectors fighters to amny different targets. Point to point flying instead of the present "Highway in the Sky" air traffic control would save millions of gallons of fuel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 09/02/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

Robert A. Heinlein:
Prediction Seventeen:

All aircraft will be controlled by a giant radar net run on a continent-wide basis by a multiple electronic "brain."
Pro: Well, most aircraft will be guided by air traffic controllers with a load of clapped-out computers...
Anti: But what Heinlein has got in mind is direct remote-control by huge mainframes, which seems an unlikely prospect now or ever. Could he not imagine a plane's onboard autopilot being any use for this?
Score: 0 points. Total so far: 3·0 out of 16.

We have more computer power than Heinlein dreamed of in 1966 and could do remote piloting of aircraft under Radar control. We do it in the military. We can even land a plane under computer control. We just won't spend the money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 09/02/2007
- wadenelson1 See Profile I'm a Fan of wadenelson1

According to the Bush appointee in CHARGE of the FAA, "Air traffic control really isn't needed. Pilots can and should look out the cockpit windows for each other. Most planes today have RADAR, and like the meatpacking industry, they should simply "see and avoid" oncoming traffic using this miraculouts technology. Self regulation and personal responsiblity is the proper solution for this industry as it has been for food safety, environmental issue, and mine safety.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 09/02/2007
- kellygrrrl See Profile I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl

yeah, it's been working out great at the airshows lately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 09/02/2007
- jake106 See Profile I'm a Fan of jake106

Those aircraft don't have Radar in them. You couldn't really apply that statement to them.

Also, the current problem with the ATC community isn't so much with what Reagan did. The amount of traffic up in the air has increased at an expotential rate over the last 20 years, yet the country hasn't done anywhere near enough to build up the infrastructure to support it. That would be in every administration since then. Although whoever that official was that made the comment about Radar was correct, we still need to bring our entire ATC system up to standards for todays' work load. Actually, strike that...we need to bring it up to standards for tomorrows load, or it will already be too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 09/02/2007
- Defyant See Profile I'm a Fan of Defyant

One more area where government guts an agency, crows loudly about efficiency, and then just waits for the next disaster to happen. When it does there is the usual Congressional hearing, money allocated, yet once again nothing meaningful is accomplished. Except of course someones bank account gets a little fatter, and people die.

Just business as usual. So predictable, and so it goes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 09/02/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

Every aircraft carrier has a better air traffic control system that the one in NYC or LA. It is called an E-3 AWACS. We will spend any amount of money to guide warplanes, but if it is American civilians lives at risk they have 20 year old radars with amnual control and obsolete computers.

That is 18 carrier(The Stennis? who in hell is Stennis?)
Why can't we get the same air traffic control
for 18 american cities?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 09/02/2007
- blooddoc See Profile I'm a Fan of blooddoc

Things won't change dramatically until we have an in-air collision over some major airport. That means anywhere from about a hundred to three hundred people will have to die first. Pretty high price to pay for something preventable. At the risk of sounding like a Republican (ugh!), remember 9/11? "Al Quedea determined to strike in U.S." We overlook things like this at our own peril.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 09/02/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif

If they have a mid air collision they will blame in on Al Qaeda and bomb Lebanon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 09/02/2007
- tkk See Profile I'm a Fan of tkk

You know this is true and it's scary. The Cons have compromised the quality of every single agency in this country to the detriment of the American people. they always jump right in and say "it's saving the American people ?? million dollars," more money they cans plough into Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 09/02/2007
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