Frustration Over Iraq Could Lead to Dem Primary Challenges

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - Frustration Over Iraq Could Lead to Dem Primary Challenges stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS


First Posted: 09- 7-07 11:01 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

I Like ItI Don’t Like It

Anti-war forces, angered over Congressional failure to bring an end to the Iraq war, are gearing up to run primary challenges against Democratic incumbents who support the Bush administration.

Frustration with the Democratic leadership of the House and Senate reached new heights with the appearance of stories describing Democrats' growing willingness to compromise on Iraq legislation, including "Democrats Retreat On War End" in The Politico and "Democrats Newly Willing to Compromise on Iraq" in the New York Times.

MoveOn, which spent a total of $28.1 million in the 2005-6 election cycle, sent out a survey to its 3.3 million members noting:

"Hundreds of thousands of us worked to get Democratic majorities elected. So why don't they have the votes? One reason is that there are a set of weak Democrats who side with the president--especially on Iraq. They're too scared to fight for what's right and what they were elected to fight for.

"This fall, we face a pivotal series of votes on Iraq--votes that, if we win, could spell the end of the Iraq war. MoveOn members have made phone calls. We've held town meetings. We've run ads and written letters to the editor. But now, given this big moment, we have an important decision to make together."

The email, signed by "Nita, Eli, Justin, Jennifer and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team," posed the following question:

"Should we support primary challengers against some Democrats?.... It's a tough question, and one we need everybody's input on." Members were given a link where they were asked not only whether they would support Democratic primary challengers, but whether they would be willing to give money to such a campaign, and how much

A House Democratic leadership aide told the Huffington Post, "We understand their frustration, but we need to elect more Democrats in order to affect real change on Iraq." Another top Democratic leadership aide said, "What in the world are they thinking? All this is going to do is increase the possibility of electing more Republicans. Instead of going after Democrats, they should be focusing their efforts on pressuring Republicans to break with the president.

Story continues below
advertisement

In private, many in the House and Senate leadership contend that if more liberal candidates defeat incumbent conservative and centrist Democrats in primaries, many of them representing Southern and Midwestern constituencies, the chances of a Republican victory in the general election sharply increase.

The MoveOn survey comes on the heels of the anti-"Bush Dog" campaign on the Open Left website created by Chris Bowers, Matt Stoller and Mike Lux.

The "Bush Dogs" -- a play on the "Blue Dog" Democrats, a caucus of center-conservative Democrats -- is made up of the 39 House Democrats who voted on May 24 in favor of the Iraq emergency supplemental appropriation and on August 4 in favor of the "Protect America Act" expanding the administration's power to use warrantless wiretaps.

Stoller described the Bush Dogs as "Southern white dudes." He argued that "these members are not voting their districts, they are just conservatives....Bush Dog Democrats are dragging down the rest of the party. According to Zogby, 80% of Democrats disapprove of the job that Congress is doing."

Bowers suggested that Bush Dog Dan Lipinski (D-Ill.) is an ideal candidate to target in a primary challenge.

Lipinski's district is overwhelmingly Democratic, with 59 percent support for John Kerry, "in absolutely no danger of falling into Republican hands;" Lipinski is "staunchly anti-choice;" and "he also is below average for a Democrat on immigration, gets a big fat zero from Progressive Punch on GLBT issues, and only a 50 percent score from the Drum Major Institute on progressive family issues. Basically, he sucks at just about everything."

An anti-war challenger strategy poses both risks and rewards.

Many members of Congress, including some adamantly opposed to the war, argue that primary challenges improve prospects for Republicans in the general election, and threaten defections from swing voters worried that liberal interest groups have excessive influence in the Democratic Party.

Conversely, proponents argue it could boost the energy and commitment of activists who helped produce the 2006 election successes; pressure Democratic incumbents to cast anti-war votes; and, in the long run, prove that a Democratic-led Congress can take on a Republican administration.

Report Corrections
 
Comments
391
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next › Last » (7 pages total)
- Qbear I'm a Fan of Qbear 51 fans permalink

I don't give a F*CK which Party a congress person is in, IF they side with Cheney's continued War in Iraq....th­ey're GONE in '08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 09/07/2007
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 170 fans permalink
photo

The only time democrats really act is when they're afraid. Dems were afraid of a backlash from voters so they gave Bush a gun so he could pull the trigger on Iraq. Dems were afraid of a voter backlash so they continued to fund this war. Now dems are afraid of Petraeus and his report so they're willing to compromise into the continuation of the war. There's reports of Bloomberg really considering a run for the presidency. If he comes out for ending the war and bringing ALL the troops home and fast, dems will be so afraid of him taking votes away from the democratic nominee that you'll see them quickly make an about face and submit a cut the funding bill for the war over and over until there's no money left and everyone comes home. So much for democratic priorities and promises.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 09/07/2007

Rewind:

The abuse of the Patriot Act, wiretapping, and oops wrong numbers gleaned by our nation's FBI,all those critically timed Congressional office evacuations in D.C. where literally everything was left exposed including critical files as folks ran in warranted fear of their lives rendered untold goodies.
Use your noodles. Serious amounts of Anthrax affected only news agencies, random citizens, and post offices, while Congress and the Supreme Court got small trace amounts. To date they have no memorial. NO KILLER(S) CAUGHT despite no inventory audit of Camp Dietrich since it's the nation's depository of military lethal pathogens.
The Saturday prior to the January 2007 Senate convening EVERYONE MISSED THE TIMED ANNOUCEMENT SENATOR REID WAS UNDER AN INVESTIGATION DEATAIL THAT NEVER DISCLOSED SUCH THAT the first day of Senate business he committed the biggest parliamentary blunder rendering back to the GOP power it has used since to OBSTRUCT THE DEMS ANNOUNCED PLANS.

MS PELOSI, WINE VINEYARDS owner SUBJECT TO AN ILLEGAL ALIEN RAID BY AG GONZALES would anger AMERICA DEMANDing SECURED BORDERS, REJECTING BUSH/FOX/CARDOZA'S PLAN FOR A NORTH AMERICAN UNION ON STEROIDS FOR 8 YRS including MEXICAN EXPAT WOMEN OF ALL AGES birthing ANCHOR BABIES in a step stair fashion in key states.

Compromised DNC leaders failed to relinquish leadership roles to their whips ensuring the advancement of America's 2006 agenda.

Recall every foreign leaders’ opposing Bush's pre-emption of Iraq with their nation's support was followed by the alacrity of scandals resulting in their downfall aided by financed intelligence smut for their opposition candidate following national economic catastrophes.
Intellectuals were viciously rebuffed: DNC members demanding protective troop gear, Shinseki, Hart, Powell,2001 debriefing intelligence experts, PDB preparers amidst fealty government experts scourges replaced by Johnny Appleseed Bushies enforcing executive conjectured directives.
America and Congress besieged is a under quasi-police state where outing a honed nuclear expert spy like Plame, CIA human assets dispensable as TP, fluent Farci- Arabic linguists redirected from Afghanistan to Iraq denied beheading the cobra, bin Laden, leaving its scales (followers) to rot awaiting eventual capture.

That is the rest of the story

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 09/07/2007
- PADDYWHACK I'm a Fan of PADDYWHACK 6 fans permalink

I am a disaffected Republican and looked to the Democrats to do the right thing.I would never vote for any GOP candidate as a matter of trust,over the war and profligacy­.The Dems have betrayed their voters in the same way by not doing what they were elected to do,so I think primary challenges are safe.Many people who were GOP voters in the past would not now p*** on them if they were afire

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 09/07/2007
- gkam I'm a Fan of gkam permalink

I would pretend they are on fire and respond accordingly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 09/07/2007
- gkam I'm a Fan of gkam permalink

We have already lost our democracy, stolen under our foolish noses, aided by the political cowardice of so-called Democrats. Just wait until Dubya attacks Iran, and uses the resulting uproar as an excuse to declare a National Emergency. We will then be just another Fascist State.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 09/07/2007

Once again, thanks for illustrating what I meant by "racist, stupid-ass white folks".

As I said:
And to top it off, you let the dumbest and most racist of you, do your talking for you. You made a media industry of racism, sexism, and homophobia. And since all you white dumbasses don't have the guts to blame yourselves and take your lumps, you blame the ones you shouted down, and look to the ones who rooked you in the first place, to make it right.

Man...you could'nt have done better, if you were cast in the part. Take note, people...d­on't let fools like this, prevail in 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 09/07/2007
- ceasenake I'm a Fan of ceasenake 8 fans permalink

The anti-war Dems will lose.

IF the anti-war Dems win a primary or two the old guard Dems will go all Lieberman on them.

After a Dem - probably Clinton 44 - is elected President he/she will convince all you good liberals that we need to stay in Iraq for "humanitarian" reasons to stop widespread killings and to provide health care, etc, to the Iraqi people.

You know you will begin to believe it when it comes from one of your own; also the press and the movie stars will convince you all that it's really a good idea to render aid to the people of Iraq.

Then the stingy old white male Republicans will complain about the cost and you'll all feel better by hating them for their lack of compassion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 09/07/2007
- Qbear I'm a Fan of Qbear 51 fans permalink

Democrats sieze the day

"we'll make Osama's last tape his LAST"

Why the F*CK is he even still breathing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 09/07/2007
- MSB I'm a Fan of MSB 44 fans permalink
photo

People standing up for this Democratic majority: WHAT are you standing up for?

I'd much rather lose the majority but have a vocal, committed, fierce minority that is actually acting in our best interests. The Republicans, even if they are delusional, seem to do fine as the minority. The current "democratic" party just serves to water-down the real Democrats.

Maybe we need to take a step back to take a step forward. Gut the party of corporate conservatives and see what we have left. My guess is that as we more clearly define a liberal democratic platform which differs substantially from the republican version, we will see our numbers grow rather rapidly. It is ridiculous to act as if this is a pipe-dream, it has been done before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 09/07/2007

If this isn't what primary season is for, why the heck even have primaries?

Duke it out.

Make the apologists, the do-nothings, the "appeasmocrats" -- and ESPECIALLY the "impeachme­nt-is-off-­the-table" WUSSIES -- defend their records in the face of a healthy and vigrous debate on the future of our great nation and the path out of our current comprehensive malaise, of which Iraq Nam is but one facet, and el Busho's continued sullying of the Constitution but a product of our own complacency.

America wants action.
America voted for change in 2006.
That we are even having this debate on whether to challenge lethargic incumbents in 2007 is pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 09/07/2007
- Bobleblah1 I'm a Fan of Bobleblah1 21 fans permalink

I wrote on this web site almost 2 years ago that I was done with the Democratic party. Hell Im pretty much done with politics, real change has been shown to not be achievable through these mechanisms anymore.
Nothing has changed!!!! The true nature of the democratic party is to be the mechanism that STALLS change long enough for the desire for it to die within the people. Republicans are the only real political party in America. They are the party that is allowed to govern and pass legislation because they have no compass other than greed and power

So it does not matter to power if Dems win in 08, because Dems have shown that their true purpose is to be the political party that does not act.
They are a fake political party. Sound harsh???
Well after half a life of eating, drinking, sleeping, thinking politics..­..This revelation is as certain to me as the fact that Bush and his criminal cronies will get away with every bit of the illegality they have perpetrated.
Republicans push the corporate agenda and Dems role is to "PRETEND TO BE OPPOSITION". But in reality their predetermined role is to be the loser. They play their role to perfection.
So good in fact, that Tens of millions of people believe that voting for a democrat is actually a vote of opposition to the republican machine. The grim truth is that its all the same machine.
If you claim to be opposed to the policies of Bush and cast a vote for any Democrat who has enabled him to do what he has done......­.YOU are a central part of the problems you spend your time speaking out against.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 09/07/2007
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 170 fans permalink
photo

Elect more democrats to effect change? What change? Every time there's an election we're told to elect democrats, even if they're right-wing democrats, because it's for the good of the party. Well, it's about time we started thinking about what's good for the nation and the hell with the party. Harry Reid changes his mind every other month on what to do about the war in Iraq. Nancy Pelosi is an utter disaster and once again we see the democrats heading toward a continuation of funding this bloody war in Iraq. MoveOn is so full of shit, I can smell it from here too. Not once has MoveOn come out for a complete withdrawl of American troops from Iraq and refuses to denounce leaving any residual troops there. We're alone guys, without party, without any will to end this madness in Iraq. The only option left is hopefuly to support primary challenges to all the democrcatic hypocrites and liars in congress and the senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 09/07/2007
photo

Do you really think that the Dem's want to win in 2008? No, because then they would have to "lead." They enjoyed sitting back, doing nothing, being "timid" and cowardly for the last twelve years. Let somone else do the work, so they get can paid to do nothing. That's a nice gig, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 09/07/2007

I am against the war. I will vote for a candidate who is against the war. If the Democratic candidate is for the war, I will not vote for them. This is so simple, why is it so difficult for people to understand?

To all of you who prefer Democrats no matter what, I have two words for you: Zell Miller.

Maybe what we need is a constitutional amendment to allow third parties to be elected. What? They can already be elected? Then there is no problem, is there. Hey, all of you foolish people voting for the wretched Democrats instead of my third party candidate, you're just going to wind up getting a Republican elected!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 09/07/2007
photo

Given the nature of our political system 3rd parties ARE NOT A VIABLE OPTION. I have been watching 3rd party types since I was a little kid and they never accomplish anything. I've simply lost interest in even dicussing them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 09/07/2007

Remember Ralph Nader. Bush sends him Christmas Cards 12 months a year.

A third party would make more sense in a PARLIAMENTARY system. Then again, such results in minor minority parties being king-makers. Feh.

In our system, third parties simply fracture the loyal -- and frustrated -- opposition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 09/07/2007

They are not an opposition, fractured or otherwise, if they do not oppose
the dickweed in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 09/07/2007
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 129 fans permalink
photo

Being as the Dems had lied to us and have done the complete opposite of what they promised when we [ including me] voted for them, I think if someone ran their cat for congress it would get more votes than any republican or democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 09/07/2007
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next › Last » (7 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect