The Pint Lives On: EU Caves To Allow 'Imperial Measurements'

New York Times   |  DAN BILEFSKY   |   September 11, 2007 01:41 PM


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Britons and the Irish can still down a pint of beer, walk a mile, covet an ounce of gold and eat a pound of bananas after the European Union ruled today that the countries could retain measurements dating back to the Middle Ages.

Under a previous European Union plan, Britain and Ireland would have been forced to adopt the metric system and phase out imperial measurements by 2009. But after a vociferous antimetric campaign by British skeptics and London's tabloid press, European Union officials decided that an ounce of common sense (or 28.3 grams) suggested that granting a reprieve was better than braving a public backlash.

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If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers then perhaps the EU pragmatically pondered an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 09/12/2007

The Brits would have kept the pint anyway.

Fuck Brussels.



    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 09/12/2007

Well it's a matter of what you are drinking isn't it. If it is something that is - as they used to say -"fucking near water" which describes american beer or if you are dinking a serious brew as one can do in ireland and england and the most of the E.U. it bloody does matter that you get your full pints worth. If you are religiously teatotal there is no hope for you or any system of measurement. cheers - happy days - up yours!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 09/12/2007
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I don't see how anybody who uses units of measure like a fifth, furlong, c-cup, tablespoon, btu, or horsepower can find the metric system confusing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 09/11/2007

Didn't we read about this years ago in 1984? Remember that England was fully metric in that book. 1/2 liter (litre?) of beer is not enough, but a liter is too much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 09/11/2007

Yup, if I remember correctly the old fart wanted a pint of wallop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 09/11/2007

Barbaric systems of measurement should be scrapped. How many teaspoons in an ounce?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 09/11/2007
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["Preserving our system of measurement, if it's not a logical system, is a bit like stagnating because you reject change."]




Kind of like having a conservative brain?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 09/11/2007

It's a comfort to me to know that some things will not change - important things such as measurement by old timey rules. It's all we have now.

Praise to the Force.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 09/11/2007

I think it's kind of dumb that we don't have more familiarity with the metric system in the U.S. I do remember learning about the metric system in elementary school in the 1970s. I've lived in metric countries, and it really is no big deal. And it is ridiculous that we are the only ones left, save Liberia and Myanmar, that haven't gone metric. On the other hand, I like difference. I don't want to see a McDonald's or a Bank of America on every corner, and I think it's good that we have a link to the past. Imperial measurements are fine and human-scale, yards, rods, feet, leagues, all that, and that's what they write about in literature. Changing elemental things distances us from our forebears in a bad way, I think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 09/11/2007


Yes, changing elemental things distances us from our forebears, but our system of measurement doesn't really represent a strong link to the past for me.

Your belief would make more sense with, for example, protecting old architecture, which is definitely a link to our history, even though the developers and highway lobby have destroyed so much of it in this country.

Most Americans have little sense of history, and keeping the imperial measurement system isn't likely to change that.

Preserving our system of measurement, if it's not a logical system, is a bit like stagnating because you reject change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 09/11/2007

I was thinking about literature. If you read all these old measurements but don't really know what they mean, then it makes the past seem very distant. It's a small thing but big, I think.

And I think the imperial system is plenty logical.

Not all change is good. Just look at Microsoft Word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 09/11/2007
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And did you know the US went officially metric in 1975! Everyone who knows what a liter is , raise their hands!

Yeah, kind of what I thought. Only hospital and scientist use metric. Even our schools still focus on Feet , inches , gallons and pounds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 09/11/2007
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Metric is just a system invented after the French revolution. Some of it took root and some like the ten hour work day and ten day work week, thankfuly did not.

I prefer a pint over a half litre any day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 09/11/2007

The two systems can peacefully coexist. Ever been to Canada? ;)

Although we officially adopted the metric system in the seventies, our historical ties with the UK and proximity to the US result in most Canadians being very familiar with both systems, even in Quebec.

As for the EU, I don't think they should cave in to the Brits. If they want to keep their imperial measurements, fine, but to try and impose them to the rest of Europe seems rather silly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 09/11/2007

The EU must realize how impassioned the UK people are about their imperial measures; banning "the pint" would surely fuel the fires of a political seccession from the EU !
Of course, the USA still uses all imperial measures completely, and for those old enough to remember, the USA was given 10 years to adopt the metric system back in the 1970's, and the USA, business and people, 'sent the metric system off packing'.
Thank you, UK, we needed a lesson and a bit of grounding in true 'Democracy' where the people's demands are indeed heeded.

Too often the USA forgets that it was in fact UK democracy-lovers who gave blood and treasure to establish this USA nation and who wrote the US Constitution so expertly trying to preserve USA Democracy for all time.

God Bless the UK people and the God-inspired passion for the God-given rights of the Individual, who understand so well the meaning and reasoning of God helping Moses lead the Jews out of slavery to enable them to be spiritually free, beholden first and foremost to God alone. Thus, the Magna Carta at Runnymede, as well.




    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 09/11/2007

I've never forgiven the British for doing away with their old monetary units.
Confusing, yes---but also historic, and just so damned British.

There is a lot to be said for the charms of history and culture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 09/11/2007

Thank you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 09/11/2007

I'll take the human measurement,not the scientific one. A yard is the distance between my nose and my thumb. I can live at all temos between 0 and 100 degrees Farenheit. I cannot live at all temps between 0 and 100 degrees Celsius. When I am doing scientific type things,yes metric can , indeed be called easier,but who needs to scientific 24/7?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 09/11/2007

It shows in your crappy infrastructure in the USA.

Damn, you guys are far behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 09/11/2007


I am a teacher, and I believe that it's very confusing to children to be taught two different systems of measurement, metric and imperial. They should learn just metric, but our government hasn't taken the initiative finally to switch completely to metric.

Australia has done it. Canada has done it. Once again, it's the United States that can't modernize with the rest of the world.

Once you're used to metric, you would prefer to use just metric.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 09/11/2007

I go back and forth to the UK often...via either the Chunnel with or boat with my car.

England is believe it or not, much less modern than continental Europe.

ONly 40 km under the channel (24 miles). Brits in many ways are just as stupid as Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 09/11/2007

BTW, thats Calais to Dover.

There are other ways to get to the UK from the continent. Hoek van Holland to Harwich.

Dunkirk to Dover.

etc etc.

http://www.poferries.com/tourist/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 09/11/2007

How smart of you to paint everyone with the same brush!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 09/11/2007
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Because there are 0 Americans or Brits that are able to use both. When I am in Europe or Asia, I use Metric measurements. When I'm in the US or UK, I use Imperial. What's the big deal with using both? The Canadians use both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 09/11/2007


Wrong. Canadians use metric.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 09/11/2007
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