Gates Breaks With Bush, Says He Wants Sharper Troop Cuts

Los Angeles Times   |   September 15, 2007 11:57 AM


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Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said Friday that he hoped to cut the U.S. force in Iraq to nearly half its current size by the end of 2008, a more dramatic reduction than President Bush endorsed this week and a new indication of divergent viewpoints within the administration and the military.

Bush and Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, proposed modest reductions to bring U.S. troop levels to between 130,000 and 140,000 by July. Although Petraeus said additional reductions were possible by the end of next year, Gates went further Friday and said he hoped troop levels would drop to 100,000. There are 20 ground combat brigades, or 169,000 troops, in Iraq.

Gates, an early skeptic of the troop buildup that began this year, took pains Friday to emphasize that the Bush administration's top military advisors agreed on how to proceed in Iraq. But Gates' comments reflect underlying rifts within the military, between commanders in the field and those at the Pentagon, as the war enters its latest phase.

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- serialcoma I'm a Fan of serialcoma 122 fans permalink
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Face it george.. no one likes you or your "ideas" except huffpo trolls... how long to we see a few of these idiots walking Barney and serving in the Cabinet... of course, that would get them out of their mom's basements and closets...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 09/15/2007
- Doofus I'm a Fan of Doofus 25 fans permalink
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Looks like Sec/Def Gates, the Joint Chiefs
& CENTCOM boss Admiral Fallon have all
'gone off the reservation'.

Is something blowing in the wind,
or did something just hit the fan?

Expect vigorous clarification soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 09/15/2007

I'll be looking for the clarification tomorrow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 09/15/2007

Also, is it just me, or have Gates and Fallon not gotten press?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 09/15/2007
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 133 fans permalink
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Hope he enjoys retirement, nobody overrides Bush, lest they be given a medal and shown the door. So sorry Gates, too little too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 09/15/2007
- cuzkate I'm a Fan of cuzkate 3 fans permalink

The TRUST FACTOR??? No such thing resides any where near D.C.. Til the end of 2008 is an absolute smoke screen for more of their bull shit. TRUST NO BODY imho. Stop the FUNDING then the end of 2008 will be liberation of our total troop force. MISSION DONE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 09/15/2007
- TerryFL I'm a Fan of TerryFL 11 fans permalink

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Can we trust Gates, or is this just another misdirection play? Gates always makes it seem like he has a rational mindset, but I been given so many different versions of events, I don't know if I can trust any of them any more.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 09/15/2007

"... by the end of 2008"

Just another stalling tactic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 09/15/2007

I'm afraid you're right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 09/15/2007

The Secretary of Defense breaks with Bush on troop cutbacks and the headlines are about Rudy and Hillary having a pissing match? Are you kidding me???!!!!. Who decides what news us important. This should be the BIG headliner folks. I love HuffPost, but I think somebody dropped the ball on this one. Maybe you'll get it right when Dumya asks Gates to resign for having the audacity to disagree with him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 09/15/2007
- getoffmedz I'm a Fan of getoffmedz 113 fans permalink
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Over the past few months it is becoming more apparent there is a significant power struggle going on within this administration.

Rove and Gonzalez are out, Cheney is diminished, Bush virtually incoherent, the FAA chief administrator resigned Friday with almost no press in MSM. Gates asserting himself more and more.

Hopefully, these changes will be for the good of our country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 09/15/2007

the ship is sinking and the rats are leaving...this is'nt brain surgery

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 09/15/2007

ummmm, Mr. Gates?
We're sorry to inform you that your services will no longer be required. Please leave your security pass at the desk on your way out. Mr.bush-cheney expects you to draft your letter of rezignation by noon tomorrow when he will be having a press conference thanking you for all your hard work and understanding that you need to spend time with your family.

That will be all.

buh bye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 09/15/2007

i smell a medal of freedom for gates and a big wet kiss goodby

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 09/15/2007

or maybe i just passed wind...its confusing...they both pretty much smell the same

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 09/15/2007
- Qbear I'm a Fan of Qbear 51 fans permalink

CAREFUL Gates,

Of the 7 service people who criticized Cheny/Bush's handling of the Iraq War in the New York Times, the THIRD is DEAD. THREE out of 7 in only a month. CHRIST! I feel like writing Amnesty International to watch over the remaining 4 who had the courage to tell the TRUTH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 09/15/2007

aiyeeee, qbear.
Its getting bad out there...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 09/15/2007
- duboisist I'm a Fan of duboisist 3 fans permalink

Where are all the people so quick to defend the integrity of General Petraeus going to be when the dead body of someone loyal to America, instead of George Bush, comes home?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 09/17/2007
- owiseone I'm a Fan of owiseone 11 fans permalink

I suspect that we're being played with good-cop/bad-cop here. It's all just a big delay until Bush has an opportunity/excuse to attack Iran. I don't think these guys plan to leave power at all; we'll have a national emergency. Bush thinks he's saving the world and he hasn't finished yet. Big cowboy. His Mama and Daddy told him he was special, and he's determined to cash-in, the demented narsicist murderer he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 09/17/2007
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