Hillary Rolls Out Health Plan, Requires All Americans Have Insurance

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First Posted: 09-17-07 10:17 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton will roll out a health care reform plan on Monday that would cost the federal government around $110 billion and require all Americans to have health insurance, Clinton campaign sources said.

The Clinton proposal will be unveiled during what was billed as a major health care policy speech in Iowa.

Under the plan, federal subsidies would be provided for those who are not able to afford insurance, and large businesses would be required to provide or help pay for their employees' insurance.

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Another reason to not vote for Hillary Clinton.

Mike Gravel for President
Supporting People Power Since 1971

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 09/18/2007
- daniel155 I'm a Fan of daniel155 4 fans permalink

The annual cost figure of $110 billion that Clinton gives and the $90 billion that Edwards gives as the cost for their universal health care programs are a joke.

It would cost much more than that to provide healthcare for every American plus non-Americans as well. We should stop and take a time-out before going through with this.

Medicare is bleeding red ink and the Social Security system is not funded. Even if we ended the war in Iraq and eliminated the Bush tax cuts it would not nearly enough to fund these programs. And now we want to put a universal healthcare program on top of this?

Maybe we should just scale back and offer a plan to cover catastrophic illnesses. Most uninsured people can get by for minor injuries and illnesses but an illness such as cancer can wipe out you out financially.

Be careful what you ask for because the candidates will pander to you regardless of the cost and practicality it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 09/18/2007

Hillary cut out the foreign wellfrae call aid and every gets health care. Group policies leave it private. Bet she don't touch that. Higher taxes no reason for doctors to work more than they have to. Wheres your beef.Go away just die you little nobody.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 09/17/2007
- dora rice I'm a Fan of dora rice 13 fans permalink
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we have a great health care system for the rich. We have a good healthcare system for the poor. We have a great healthcare system for the illegals, they can even get treated for a cold for free at the emergency room, but the middle class who just has enough to eat, a roof over their head, and some bills accumulated, they can stick their finger up their .....ear. Hillary go.....girl......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 09/17/2007
- init I'm a Fan of init 3 fans permalink

Hillary: Keep Bill!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 09/17/2007
- stillfresh I'm a Fan of stillfresh 15 fans permalink

NOOOOOOOO! As long as you keep the greedy bastards who own private insurance and run our lives in the medical mix, this is doomed. She finally copped to show her true colors. Those companines OWN her.
This is a terrible turn for Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 09/17/2007

Oh bs. About time someone put some meat into this and Hillary did that. You can't turn the world upside down. Any other way that ignores the reality of those companies is doomed to fail. Better to get them on the right side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 09/17/2007
- ClintonFun I'm a Fan of ClintonFun 5 fans permalink

RELAX, LIBERALS / DEMS!

HOW 'BOUT LIVING IN A MORE GOVERNMENT-IZED AMERICA? THEY MAKE MORE PROFITS OFF YOU (BY TAXING YOU UNDER THREAT OF JAIL) THAN BIG OIL. EVER THOUGHT OF THAT?

DON'T WORRY ABOUT HER USING INSURANCE COMPANIES. IT WON'T LAST LONG.

HER CURRENT PLAN IS JUST A MUSE to TRICK YOU
AFTER she gets into office, THEN...she will IMMEDIATELY CONVERT to have GOVERNMENT FULLY TAKE OVER YOUR HEALTHCARE, PRIVACY, SOCIAL SECURITY, and anything you can think of, AND RAISE TAXES AGAIN just like Mother Russia. Her useful idiots in Congress and the Media will be right there to help.

IKnowLiberalSocialistDeception

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 09/17/2007
- Doofus I'm a Fan of Doofus 25 fans permalink
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It will be interesting to see what Harry & Louise (from
the Health Insurance Association) have to say about
the Clinton plan, this time around.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/308/6933/924/a

The deveil is in the details. She ran into much
trouble from anxious & disrespected elements
of the super-powerful insurance industry last
time around. Seems like this time she's getting
ahead of them: they *like* mandated insurance,
after all: really, really like it.

Without knowing the details, it would seem that
the Clinton plan isn't too much different from the
'mandatory' Romney plan in Massachusetts. The
question, of course, will be how, what do 'they'
do to make it mandatory? There has to be a penalty.
Tell us about it, why don't you?


So we continue to live in an increasingly
corporatized America. That in itself seems
a major disappointment, no?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 09/17/2007
- ClintonFun I'm a Fan of ClintonFun 5 fans permalink

RELAX, LIBERALS / DEMS!
HOW 'BOUT LIVING IN A MORE GOVERNMENTTIZED AMERICA? THEY MAKE MORE PROFITS OFF YOU (TAXES) THAN BIG OIL. EVER THOUGHT OF THAT?

DON'T WORRY ABOUT HER USING INSURANCE COMPANIES. IT WON'T LAST LONG.

HER CURRENT PLAN IS JUST A MUSE to TRICK YOU
AFTER she gets into office, THEN...she will IMMEDIATELY CONVERT to have GOVERNMENT FULLY TAKE OVER YOUR HEALTHCARE, PRIVACY, SOCIAL SECURITY, and anything you can think of, AND RAISE TAXES AGAIN just like Mother Russia. Her useful idiots in Congress and the Media will be right there to help.

IKnowLiberalSocialistDeception

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 09/17/2007
- dora rice I'm a Fan of dora rice 13 fans permalink
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watch out. This woman will rob you blind. She will make you even have preventive care, and my god you may even have to fix your teeth. wow. no more rotten teeth in USA...wow....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 09/17/2007
- drblack I'm a Fan of drblack 19 fans permalink

Kucinich has the only real progressive health care plan.
Hillary would make more money for insurance companies with this plan.
Hillary is the #1 recipient of money from the health insurance lobby.
Hillary is as much a corporate schill as Bush or her husband Bill .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 09/17/2007
- ClintonFun I'm a Fan of ClintonFun 5 fans permalink

RELAX, LIBERALS / DEMS!

DON'T WORRY ABOUT HER USING INSURANCE COMPANIES. IT WON'T LAST LONG.

HER CURRENT PLAN IS JUST A MUSE to TRICK YOU
AFTER she gets into office, THEN...she will IMMEDIATELY CONVERT to have GOVERNMENT FULLY TAKE OVER YOUR HEALTHCARE, PRIVACY, SOCIAL SECURITY, and anything you can think of, AND RAISE TAXES AGAIN just like Mother Russia. Her useful idiots in Congress and the Media will be right there to help.

IKnowLiberalSocialistDeception

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 09/17/2007
- dora rice I'm a Fan of dora rice 13 fans permalink
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oh my, this woman will rob you blind.....lolol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 09/17/2007
- drblack I'm a Fan of drblack 19 fans permalink

My problem is the word REQUIRE. Is she going to arrest me if I don't get it?
Just as solving the problem of Drugs is to take the profit out of it so is the solution to more affordable health care.
Necessary Things should not be for profit.
America does NOT have the best health care in the world...it is actually down the list a way.
It is like people who assume that America is a free country or that America spends lots of money to help out Foreign countries and people aho are less prosperous than us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 09/17/2007

This is a serious post, and I'm hoping for serious answers.

I genuinely would like a supporter, and preferably several supporters, of Ms. Clinton's candidacy to explain to me why the following is not of concern to you:

1) She's corrupt. Every time she runs for office, we see similar violations of the law. Hsu is not the first such scandal from Ms. Clinton, there were similar scandals in her New York Senatorial campaign, resulting, I believe, in a criminal conviction for her finance director. And of course, we all know about her husband's campaign finance scandals.

2) She appears to believe she's royalty. Several former White House employees have testified in writing to this. Former Special Agent Aldrich explained that she would not even allow anybody to WALK THE HALL of the White House when she was walking; if she saw them, their career was shot. She treated the help like dirt; she cussed out Secret Service agents repeatedly; she forced White House employees to work too few hours to be full-time employees, so they could be denied benefits.

3) She seems to be completely vicious. The way she treats the help around her is part of it; she's also famous for verbally abusing Bill (long before the Monica thing came out -- Monica was hardly the first, probably more like the 400th). After the "vast-right-wing-conspiracy" show, she apparently told an aide, "That'll teach them to f*** with us".

4) Her words are entirely chosen by expediency. You can't tell what she actually believes, because she won't ever say that. She only says what she thinks the public wants to hear. Any resemblence between the truth and what she says is coincidental; it's not that she hates the truth, just that it's irrelevant to her.

Do you A) not believe any of this? B) believe this is normal for politicians? C) genuinely believe that bad people can make good Presidents?

I ask, because by all accounts, Ms. Clinton is truly a bad human being.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 09/17/2007
- ClintonFun I'm a Fan of ClintonFun 5 fans permalink

AMEN, AMEN!

WON'T CATCH ME BEIN' A MOM MAKIN' COOKIES
She is a mean, bitter, evil woman who makes Leona Helmsey seem like a saint. It is no wonder she has the highest negatives of any candidate.

WITCH OF THE WEST WING
She treats employees and staff like crap (Congressional post office employees). Treats anyone who challenges her even worse (Slanders military people who are giving them security). Imagine how she will treat US citizens once she getsw annointed queen (Hillary: "I am the most famous person quiet person...".)

WORSHIP OF QUEEN HILLARY
The main stream media, Hollywood twerps will bow down to her bidding and have their galas and teas while the working and taxpaying people pay for it. Just like merry old King George's England or Stalin's Russia.

LIBS AND MSM FEAR HER WRATH
She and Bill will call on their Clintonista gestapo useful idiots (including MSM, many democrats, MoveOn.org crowd, American haters, flag burners, NYT editors, Vogue Mag, The View, the rich, the Rosey O. fans) to savage and ruin opponent's lives and reputations.

MORE OF THE SAME AS WE HAD WITH BILL BEFORE
Unfortunately the foul smell of the Clinton presence wafts a long trail of slander, corruption, secret meetings, hidden deals and agendas with corrupt foreign governments, weakening of the military and CIA, higher taxes, selling the Lincoln bedroom to Chinese leaders and the Balwins, Madonnas, etc.).

They think and act like they are god's gift to humanity but do not have a generous bone in their bodies.

TiredOfTheClintonCorruptionWeHadOnceBefore

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 09/17/2007
- dora rice I'm a Fan of dora rice 13 fans permalink
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I had to realize today this site here is inhabitated by a lot of bitter, hatefull leftists, and I don't see much difference betweent them and the far right, sane hateful language, the difference Bush is their Whipping post instead of Gore, or Bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 09/17/2007
- dora rice I'm a Fan of dora rice 13 fans permalink
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you are not serious with your post. You are a poor calculated hater. You don't know the woman personally. That's why you say " she seems to" you don't seem to be hateful and vicious, you are living proof on black and white. It's one thing not to vote for someone and say it's not my kind of person or what I expect from a person, it's another thing to lie about a person yu don't know personally and to smear and hateful write abusive about the person. I remember so well the Swift boat veterans who did the same thing to Gore. You know what, as you can see...a good person will always prevail. Does this mean I will vote for Hillary, that remains to be seen , I sure will listen to all the other candidates also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 09/17/2007

Nope, as long as an insurance co. profits off the misery of others, hell no, no way. Next candidate, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 09/17/2007
- ClintonFun I'm a Fan of ClintonFun 5 fans permalink

TESTER
IT IS PLAIN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF INSURANCE AND SPREADING RISK. Please don't vote for any Dem or Repub candidate, get married or have children until you do learn about insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 09/17/2007
- mikep I'm a Fan of mikep 11 fans permalink

Wow, I can't believe she made such an enormous mistake. She had both the nomination and the election in the bag, but now it's wide open again. Well, I guess I should be grateful. I'll bet Edwards and Obama are quite delighted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 09/17/2007

Edwards' plan is mandatory too.

Same thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 09/17/2007

It's mandatory for you to have car insurance? Why aren't you having a fit about that? What? We insist cars are covered by human beings aren't?

Okay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 09/18/2007

Yeah good plan Hillary, how much money the health insurance industry funneling into your campaign over this one. I can't believe you would come up with shit like this and expect true democrats to support your bought and sold sorry ass.

Kucinich 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 09/17/2007
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This "plan" is absolute crap. It's a far cry from universal, government-backed health care. It's a rip off of Romney's BAD plan in Massachusetts. It's designed to stave off criticism that she's for "big government".

Is Hillary really a Democrat, or a warmed-over, watered down Goldwater Republican like she was in college?

The only candidate who has a REAL health care plan is Dennis Kucinich!

I am a Democrat; in 1999-2001 I worked at DNC headquarters in DC.

I will not lift ONE FINGER to support Hilllary Clinton for president in 2008, not in the primaries, and not in the general election!

Let the chips fall where they may! Democrats shouldn't compromise their ideals to support a phony Democrat for president!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 09/17/2007
- ClintonFun I'm a Fan of ClintonFun 5 fans permalink

DON'T WORRY ABOUT HER NOT HAVING THE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER YOUR HEALTHCARE.

Because as soon as she gets into office, she will have the GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HEALTHCARE. Her current plan is just a muse to get voted into office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 09/17/2007
- gsuescum I'm a Fan of gsuescum 2 fans permalink

She's just paying back the hand that feeds her (insurance company lobbyists giving her campaign donations).

Her proposal will only mean more of the same but now imposed by law and subsidized by our taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 09/17/2007
- ClintonFun I'm a Fan of ClintonFun 5 fans permalink

DON'T WORRY ABOUT HER NOT HAVING THE GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER YOUR HEALTHCARE.

Because as soon as she gets into office, she will have the GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER HEALTHCARE. Her current plan is just a muse to get voted into office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 09/17/2007
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