Spector Jury Tells Judge They Can't Reach Verdict

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First Posted: 09-18-07 05:05 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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The foreman of the jury in Phil Spector's murder trial told the judge Tuesday that the panel is at an impasse of 7 to 5, but he did not indicate which way it was leaning.

"At this time I don't believe that anything else will change the positions of the jurors," the foreman said when Superior Court Judge Larry Paul Fidler asked if there was anything he could do to help.

Polled individually, some jurors agreed with the foreman and others disagreed. One suggested further instruction about reasonable doubt.

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Another 5'5" creep trying to make up for that missing 6".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 09/19/2007

This is the guy who pulled a gun on
Leonard Cohen trying to make him go disco.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 09/19/2007
- ming099 I'm a Fan of ming099 7 fans permalink
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....the jury couldnt get past the hair....th­at was all that was on their minds while they were deliberati­ng.....wha­t color and bizarre fashion it would be done up in.....the Hair Defense...­..anything can get you off in California­......reme­mber the Twinkie defense???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 09/19/2007
- katlade I'm a Fan of katlade 6 fans permalink

By the looks of Spector,he is not going to make it to another trial. He looks like death warmed over. Oh and the jury - Morons. Pull your heads out of your asses. He is guilty. If she wanted to commit suicide do you think she would do it in his house? I am pretty sure she sobered up in time to get the hell out of there before she did something she would regret and did not make it. He is one creepy looking dude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 09/19/2007
- shhhhhhh I'm a Fan of shhhhhhh 14 fans permalink

He looks like the Harrison Ford - Barry Manilow love-child.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 AM on 09/19/2007
- Leper I'm a Fan of Leper 11 fans permalink
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You know, you go around waving guns, pointing them at people, forcing them into the mouths of women and ONE time it goes off.

That isn't an accident.

That's russian roulette.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 09/19/2007
- meandmagoo I'm a Fan of meandmagoo 2 fans permalink

Phil looks exactly like the old lady down the road from me.

Oh,this is something else I don't give a rat's ass about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 09/19/2007
- Semper I'm a Fan of Semper 4 fans permalink

Well Phil is going to get off, while OJ gets life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 09/19/2007
- WolfLarsen I'm a Fan of WolfLarsen 34 fans permalink

Let's hope they both get life eventually.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 09/19/2007
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 65 fans permalink
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Who is this guy? That's a particularly ugly mask he's wearing. It'd be good for halloween though.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 09/19/2007

LMAO.. he is all sorts of FUG!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 09/19/2007
- TRYKER I'm a Fan of TRYKER 69 fans permalink

The Instructions to The Jury are half the problem. They state early on that it must be by a preponderance of evidence, BEYOND a reasonable doubt.
After the Defense poured on the expert$ and Ms Baden poo pooed and obfuscated with vigor, there was that little bit of DOUBT. That was all they needed, a doubter or two.

"I think I killed somebody".­..(I forgot her name), and I have the gun with blood on my hands, I'm in a daze, I'm dead drunk.

That was enough for most of us...but apparently not them.

The diapered-astronaut starts tomorrow..­..
She looks like she wants to take the stand.
Then we'll get another OJ trial, Court TV will cover the earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 09/18/2007

All facts must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Preponderance is the civil standard of proof.

The jury instruction for reasonable doubt rules out slight doubt or imaginary doubt, as all facts are subject to these.

The admission "I think I killed somebody," was enough for me. The experts were smoke and mirrors.

Also, courtv is no longer covering trials but will be led by that legal wizard Starr Jones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 09/19/2007

OJ KILLED HER!

Maybe you guys will show this case the same type of anger if you knew who the real killer is!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 09/18/2007
- Leper I'm a Fan of Leper 11 fans permalink
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I don't think so... I think OJ was busy stealing his memorabilia back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 09/19/2007
- Deni I'm a Fan of Deni 15 fans permalink

Isn't the foreman an engineer? I used to work for engineers and I'm married to one. They over-analyze everything. Great with bridges and buildings. Not so great with gun-crazy nuts. And, yes, I know it's a defendant's right to testify or not and the jury isn't supposed to infer anything if the defendant doesn't testify in his own defense. But come on - if that was me and I was innocent, my lawyer could talk until s/he was blue in the face. I'd testify!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 09/18/2007

You bet. I always had them testify. They wanted to testify.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 09/19/2007

If this jury hangs, just remember that the prosecution wins 90 percent of retrials.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 09/18/2007
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If this jury does hang, will the district attorney likely seek a new trial for this defendant? What is your opinion?

Thank you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 09/18/2007

Absolutely. They always do in high profile cases.

Usually, the defendant takes a deal when faced with retrial. Spector reportedly refused a deal before, though. It could be a rare retrial and the prosecution will know everything the defense is likely to do and will be prepared for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 09/19/2007

I've been a trial lawyer in Southern California for over 25 years and I will tell you a great secret that everyone ignores:

IF THE DEFENDANT DOESN'T TESTIFY, HE IS GUILTY.

Every time I had an innocent defendant, I had him or her testify.

I watched about 90 percent of the Spector trial over the web feed on KTLA. He's guilty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 09/18/2007
- talkingdog I'm a Fan of talkingdog 24 fans permalink
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It's been common knowledge that Spectors a crazy, gun-toting-maniac, threatening to shoot people, nut-case since the sixties.

He's even poped off rounds, evidently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 09/18/2007
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