What makes the Democratic supporters of the Cornyn resolution so disgusting is that the Cornyn resolution never debates the facts of the ad, but instead lies about it's content. I’ve asked my Sen., Feinstein to apologize for this lie.

"Whereas a recent attack through a full-page advertisement in the New York Times by the liberal activist group, Moveon.org, impugns the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all the members of the United States Armed Forces: Now, therefore, be it...'

The ad does no such thing. So Feinstein has joined in a attack on speech and signed onto a lie about other Dems.

If Hillary had chosen to sit this one out, the media (and by media, I mean liberals) would have been all over her. Why the double standard?

Keep up the pressure Move On and all you other wacko lefties. With your help we'll get another Republican in the White House.

The American People know that you all are extremists and the more you show it the better it is for the Republicans.

The Move - On. Org newspaper ad hit it right on the head. Betrayus is a TV camera hunting dwib who sold out to Shrubman. It was his choice to become political person for the Neo-Cons.

Note over the last 5 years no General was taken to task by Move-On .org that includes Casey, Franks, Abiziad, Meyers, Pace. Difference was and is these guy's were military, some even made some very stupid comments (ie Pace, Iraq people were not happy with there liberation).

We do have a couple of things wrong here, Harry is not leader, he is constantly outfoxed by Rove and the neo-cons. He can't move one of our bills through his Senate but a minority senator can get a newspaper article censored. Amusing that a Texas senator brings a bill to senate, not sure but I think Karl resides in Texas.

One additional thing we have 22 Dem. senators who were bought and payed for by the Neo-Cons this is not a good thing as Martha would say.

Oh....we did have N. Korea not only building but marketing Atomic weapons to Syria. They Syria must have bought a turn key atomic weapons platform since N. Korea was building the site for Syria in Syria. We also had Israel attacking Syria to blow up the weapons platform. This is the same country Nordstrom girl Condi had made major break through with negotiating a stop to building and proliferating atomic weapons in the world.

And what did DC do about it, our illustrious Senate censored a newspaper article, and Shrubman would make no comment on the subject, must mean he once again has been outfoxed. Is everyone feeling safe now or what, Now our troops are in between Iran with Atomic weapons and Syria with Atomic weapons, so much for finding WMD................and we pay for these dwibs

For a list of turncoats from the Democratic party in the Senate, please consider the following:


Those rejecting the Feingold amendment (Feingold Amdt. No. 2924) on September 20, 2007:


Baucus (MT), Bayh (IN), Bingaman (NM), Carper (DE), Casey (PA), Conrad (ND), Dorgan (ND), Johnson (SD), Landrieu (LA), Lincoln (AR), Lieberman (not a surprise, CT), Levin (MI), Lincoln (AR), McCaskill (MO), Mikulski (MD), Nelson (FL), Nelson (NE), Pryor (AR), Reed (RI), Salazar (CO), Tester (MT) and Webb (VA).


Many are from red, or at least purple areas, which is no excuse, but Carper, Casey, Levin, Mikulski, and Reed?


If you haven't had enough yet, there is also a list of turncoats from this morning's vote on the Levin amendment , Levin Amdt. No. 2898 -- September 21, 2007:

Dodd (CT), Lieberman (but, of course -- CT), Nelson (NE) and Pryor (AR).


Those not voting:


Boxer (CA), Durbin (IL) and Sanders (VT).


Remarkably, the Republicans were able to come up with three votes for the amendment, almost counterbalancing the damage done by the Dems on this bill:


Hagel (NE), Smith (OR) and Snowe (ME).


Hagel's retiring and Smith is coming up for re-election next year.


The turncoats are representing the wealthy defense contractors who are lining their pockets with enormous campaign contributions along with promises of lucrative lobbying positions once they leave the Senate.


The only thing missing is the "FOR SALE" sign in front of the U. S. Senate Office Building.

Democrats in congress that voted yes on this need to be taken out of office just like the Republicans that made this a priority. The troops are not a priority to this congress, let us be real about that. Politics is a priority. It is time to vote them out of office. Why can't the 67% that disagree overcome the 33% that are for Bush.

If the Senate were to be fair, they would have similarly condemned the Swiftboat liars, as well as Faux Noose, CNN, and all others who serve as megaphones for the Reich Wing.

Why make this into a Clinton v Obama discussion? The real issue, to me, is the danger (in an already dangerous political environment) of the U.S. Senate condemnation of political speech. Citizens are not required to gift wrap their questions and concerns to politicians or military officers. The all make good and bad judgments in the course of their professional life. Senator Boxer's version of this monstrosity was not much better in this regard. If impeachment is off the table for the Republicans, how about trying it on Senator Nelson (D, sort of. Fl) for starters. The charge: betraying the constitution they swore to uphold. The evidence: the vote. The Repulicans were grasping for cover for their undermining of the military by blocking the Webb proposal and the Democrats (no doubt in orchestrated voting) fell for it. Where was a intelligent debate about all of this before the either a yea or nay vote? And why a vote, at all?

it is just an ad

Hypocrite Hillary(DC Experience Matters?JFK & Bill HAD LIL

This Video Is Showing That Hillary is a hypocrite for saying obama has no experience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBy3AKn_2Fk

More evidence of what a pathetic little
coward Obama is, he waited until the very
last minute on a funding vote for Iraq.
He was hiding until waiting to see how the
Democrats were voting, then at the very last
minute voted.
He is a pathetic little coward.

What a great contrast this little imbroglio draws between Obama and Clinton. The red light is definitely on over Hilary's door.

Let's see: Hillary voted for the war; she said in front of the world she had to suspend disbelief in order to listen to the General's Report, she said when asked about her comment that she had the utmost respect for the General and then she votes against a resolution condemning a full page ad declaring him a betrayer.

Does anyone have any idea what she is saying or doing.

I only know I wouldn't want that woman as commander in chief or anywhere near control of the most powerful weapons on earth.

My reaction to all this was to send MoveOn more money.

If fascists don't like free speech, give them more of it.

Hopefully progressives will look at the Senate condemn moveon vote to give careful reanalysis to their belief that voting in more Dems really makes a difference. Remember when Tester, McCaskill, Cardin, Casey and Webb (and others) beat their Repuboican opponents in 2006? Well those 5 voted to kill more US troops by funding the surge AND voted in favor of the ridiculous mischaracterization of the moveon ad condemn moveon resolution just passed by the Senate, and most voted in favor of the Trample on Civil Liberties Act 2 (Protect America Act), just as their opponents would have voted. The problems isn't that there aren't enough Democrats. Partially it's that the Dems recruited by DLCers are Republicans in Democratic clothing.

There needs to be direct pressure placed on the whole bunch to get results, including on the Republicans.

Im no fan of Clinton, But thank you Hillary for sticking up for Move on..the ad spoke for me and everyone I know.