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MoveOn Vote: Clinton a "No," Obama a No-Show

September 20, 2007 04:43 PM


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Presidential hopeful and Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is claiming that he deliberately sat out a vote mounted by Senate Republicans to condemn the group MoveOn.org. Obama said that he was taking the high road by staying out of the GOP-driven fray over the group's "General Betray Us?" advertisement.

"The focus of the United States Senate should be on ending this war, not on criticizing newspaper advertisements," the senator said in a statement e-mailed to the Huffington Post. "This amendment was a stunt designed only to score cheap political points while what we should be doing is focusing on the deadly serious challenge we face in Iraq. ... By not casting a vote, I registered my protest against this empty politics."

Obama and Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) both missed the vote on a resolution sponsored by Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) to condemn MoveOn for its advertisement last week that criticized Lt. Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of US forces in Iraq. The ad has been the focus of Republican attacks on Democrats in Congress for the past week.

The measure passed on a 72-25 vote. Obama had earlier voted in favor of an alternative motion sponsored by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) that criticized actions that question the honor of armed services members generally, and highlighted partisan attacks against former senator Max Cleland and Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), both Vietnam veterans. The Boxer measure failed to advance.

The Huffington Post is still awaiting a reply from Biden's office on how he would have voted on the measure if he had attended the vote.

Obama's main rival on the campaign trail, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), voted against the Cornyn measure. Her vote drew fire from Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney. The former Massachusetts governor accused Clinton in a statement of siding "with the libelous left wing of her party."

Romney said, "The idea that she would be a credible commander-in-chief of our armed forces requires the willing suspension of disbelief."

Another Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), also voted against the Cornyn measure, but he seemed to share some of Obama's sentiment.

"It is a sad day in the Senate when we spend hours debating an ad while our young people are dying in Iraq," Dodd said. "Now that the Senate has twice voted on this ad, it is time to move on and vote to end the war."

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Way to go Obama, Clinton, Dodd, and Biden. They didn't see eye on supporting the war at the beginning, but they stand firm, together, on this ridiculous display of partisan politics, at the expense of our young men and women.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 09/20/2007

How do they stand together? Clinton voted against the measure. Obama wimped out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 AM on 09/21/2007
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And you were for Obama before you were against him.....:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 09/21/2007
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You don't get it Captain.. The wimping out is what Clinton did. When you are running for the Democratic nomination it is not courageous to stand behind a left wing organization.

She is again, showing her lack of leadership and pandering for the vote of the base.

She should have done that when she was casting her vote for the Iraq War..I guess she did not wimp out then...lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 09/21/2007

Democrats voting yes for the measure were:

Baucus (MT)
Bayh (IN)
Cardin (MD)
Carper (DE)
Casey (PA)
Conrad (ND)
Dorgan (ND)
Feinstein (CA)
Johnson (SD)
Klobuchar (MN)
Kohl (WI)
Landrieu (LA)
Leahy (VT)
Lincoln (AR)
McCaskill (MO)
Mikulski (MD)
Nelson (NE)
Nelson (FL)
Pryor (AR)
Salazar (CO)
Tester (MT)
Webb (VA)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 09/20/2007

The beauty of hypocracy is that you never have to give up your values...a three-fingered salute to all of these fine leaders!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 09/20/2007
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AGAIN, ALL of the new senators voted yes...same as for that nefarious spy bill. Does anybody seriously believe that they came to that decision to vote contrary to the party leadership all by themselves? Is Reid dictating these yes votes to the ones who have longest to go before being up for re-election (to give people some time to forget how they were betrayed)? Reid is beginning to look more and more like Lieberman...he gets the new members to take the hit for voting with the Republicans (and he and the Presidential candidates vote with the liberals), AND the Republicans win the vote. How many times does this have to happen before people begin to demand a new majority leader?

These are people who ran on an antiwar platform, and now they have turned on the people who got them elected.

Klobuchar is DISGUSTING! When has she voted for ANYTHING that was part of her platform. I delayed my move for a week last fall just so I could vote for her...what a waste of time and energy. Of course, had I moved earlier I would have voted for Casey, and he is no better. I hope she realizes that her supporters are already sick and tired of her wimpiness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 09/20/2007
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You may be onto something. I think they did something like that over the war funding bill last time. They voted yes to give cover to all the dem presidential candidates to vote no. That way it still passed but nobody could blame the candidates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 09/20/2007
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Good for Clinton, this amounts to censorship and it is because chimpy is unable to deal with anything. Everybody knows this was a political agenda..being a General at this level is political at any speed. AND where were the gd republicans when McClelland was swiftboated, when Kerry was swiftboated..where were they? Tell me what happens when bush's pals defame others and actions. Geez what a bunch of losers. How do we overcome this. We are I think, still entitled to free speech and opinions.....oops not under this god awful facist psychopath, we are not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 09/20/2007

F**k Clinton she is nothing but a paid Whore, she has her head up corporate Americas Ass and has already sold her soul to the company store and does not give a shit about any one but her self. Watch and see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 09/20/2007

I'm sure Senator Clinton will be thrilled to know gutter mouthed trash like you won't be voting for her. I know I am!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 09/21/2007

Hillary had the guts to stand up to the Republicans' attempts at intimidation and vote NO! RIGHT ON HILLARY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 09/21/2007
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You can blame this whole fiasco on one person..Harry "I am Clueless" Reid. He has to be even more inept than was Frist. Bill Frist would not have let this come up for a vote if he knew it would not serve his party any good. Harry Reid...you are a complete fool!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 09/20/2007

Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 09/20/2007
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Reid has no balls or backbone. He needs to be somebody's girlie boy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 09/20/2007
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Corportaions have freedom speech. NO ONE ELSE DOES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 09/20/2007

It is F**king corporate America that is running the show in this country and no one is doing anything about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 09/20/2007

Our Senate is totally consumed with actions that give one party or the other some perceived political advantage. I would like to see them concentrate on legislation that would help all the citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 09/20/2007
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The main problem with Congress and the government is that it is run by politicians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 09/20/2007
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And, there should be term limits. I don't believe the founders anticipated "career politicians". Republican or Democrat...they should all GO after a short period in Congress.

Accordingly, I think we would all be served better by the government representatives as intended over 200 years ago. Some things just never change!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 09/20/2007

I meant to imply that Congress doesn't have to work that way even under the current rules. Concerned citizens need to email or write their Senators and Representatives. I suggest that rather than signing any kind of petition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 09/21/2007
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We are all so tired and repulsed by all of the Republican showboating about how they 'support the troops'. Why didn't ALL of the Democrats just walk out and skip this ridiculous vote?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 09/20/2007

Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 09/20/2007
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Because they are spineless, calculating blowhards that never take a stand and never saw a cause worth risking their careers for. Just one more indication that the current crop of Democrats are no better than the Republicans. Wake me up when you have had enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 09/20/2007
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third party anyone?

americans love affair with the two party system means more of the same.

who tells them the two party system is the best in the world? the corporate media and the politicans of the two party system.

this is brainwashing and brain dead at its best.

weclome to american politics.

we have met the enemy and it is us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 09/21/2007

Because they thought they would score points, but it was F**king stupid. They would have scored more points by not even wasting their time on worthless shit.
This is why nothing gets done for the citizens of the US. The F**king games and tricks they have to play.
This is why important matters such as our dollar near collapsing is ignored.
They don't want Americans to know how bad the shape our country is in, while they live high off the hog on OUR tax paying dollars.
Bullshit

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 09/20/2007

This is an outrage. These losers have nothing better to do? The Repubs have done so much worse...Ann Coulter attacking 9/11 widows, swift-boating Kerry...I could fill a page. But the Dems??

I am so disgusted by this nonsense and these do-nothing reps. I can't even write any more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 09/20/2007

"The focus of the United States Senate should be on ending this war, not on criticizing newspaper advertisements," the senator said in a statement e-mailed to the Huffington Post. "This amendment was a stunt designed only to score cheap political points while what we should be doing is focusing on the deadly serious challenge we face in Iraq. ... By not casting a vote, I registered my protest against this empty politics."

That's Barack Hussein 101 alright! Actions speak louder than fluff as I keep stating, much to the chagrin of the Nader lovers! His Iraq votes in the Senate are identical to Hillary's but he "was against the war from the beginning"! He ducks out of Jena but makes a plea for "commuted sentence"?! The way it's rolled out, there should not be a sentence!

Again, the media is not propping him up anymore and the hot air is leaking. I give him a few more months of empty rhetoric as the truth shall set us all free!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 09/20/2007

P.S.: now why did Harry Reid even permit that "resolution" onto the floor?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 09/20/2007
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ma, Ive never seen a political campaign that makes soo many excuses....over and over...for mistakes they have made

by not casting a vote, i registered my protest!?

if you are sucker enough to buy that as anything but an excuse....hell, well...

he shoulda just said it was a stupid vote - that was gonna pass -

but team obama always has to be right, never ever wrong///.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 09/20/2007

Well, Sensible American, your moniker turns out to be a misnomer. A sensible, thinking person can see that this vote was a complete waste of time and an insult to what the Senate is supposed to be about. Senator Obama and Senator Biden both took the high road by not voting in this ridiculous "resolution" or whatever the hell ridiculous name they came up with for it. Why should anybody dignify and give credence to the Republicans childish temper tantrum? Why cast a vote for something that should not even be considered valid? By not voting in this idiotic display of nothingness, Obama shows us that he really truly is an American who wants to get down to the work that really needs to be done and not the usual Washington bull that we all have become all too familiar with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 09/20/2007

All Dems should be disgusted that Obama has gone back to his State Senate ways by deciding not to decide anything to difficult. He is far to concerned with getting himself elected than to let principal get in the way. He shows himself to be an inexperienced egomaniac without a backbone, thanks anyway, but we've had that for the past six years and we know where that got us!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 09/21/2007
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What a bunch of repukelican crap! Hell, Petreiaus' own Boss, CENTCOM Commander Admiral Fallon Called Him "An ass-kissing little chicken shi*", so why aren't the repukelicans calling him "unpatriotic"? And Bill Maher told Wolf Blitzer the other night that Bush was "A Liar" about three times during an interview on CNN. So why no "unpatriotic" crap pointed at him? I will tell You why..because the repukes are so terrified that The People will have a Voice, for once, Using Move On, that they have to try to divert attention from their train wreck of a president and his insane policies anyway they can. If a foreign country wanted to hire a bunch of spies to infiltrate, and sabotage the United States, they could not hire a better crew than bush and cheney. With "leaders" like these, who needs al kada? No foreign army could do the damage to our troops these traitors have!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 09/21/2007
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