Its Amazing, the only time our democrats get balls, is when they attack another democrats stupid move. To bad they cant be like this when republicans act.

I see why the GOP changed the elephant from red to blue. Its a tribute to the democrats that do their bidding.

It appears that our leaders have learned a lot from the 50 years of the cold war. Is there any hope or are we destine to become what Russia once was?

This is a much more intelligent proposal than the smokers tax for schip.
In fact ONLY tax those who support the war...if you support this insane war then pay for it.

Dear Democrats,
Fuck you.
Love,
3rd party voter.

Hmmmm, a Dem floats the idea of a tax increase, and then Dems come to rescue us from a tax increase?

A liberal believes that is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

not one red cent for the war

WTF? Dana Perino thinks we don't need to raise taxes to pay for this war? I wish she would explain how we are paying for it then.

I don't really blame the Dem leaders for this. They inherited a mess and they are going to be damned if they do and damned if they don't. No matter what happens by the time Bush leaves office this whole war and all the problems it has caused is going to be blamed on the Dems. The Reps and the MSM are already gearing up for that.

Why is no one asking the Repubs this very simple question:

"If we do not raise taxes, just HOW will we pay for this war? Continue to borrow money from china?"

The linked article states:
About two hours later, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) plunged in the knife, issuing a release stating, "Just as I have opposed the war from the outset, I am opposed to a draft and I am opposed to a war surtax."


Whose hero is she? Who thinks Nancy Pelosi is their hero?

All we middle class Americans get to do is hand in our money, we get nothing else for fear Nancy will get criticized.

I wish there was a way for the American people to set the Agenda for congress each year. Make them deal with things like public financing for campaign, health care, etc one issue at a time.
If there was no need to raise funds for elections there would be no Steny Hoyers or Emanuals in power. They dole out the huge amounts of money they receive from lobbyist and buy loyalty from their fellows in congress.
Then they support their benefactors by ripping the heart out of us. No Contempt Charges for Gonzales or Myers or the White House, no Impeachment. And especially no war tax to pay premiums on the Republican's Chinese Credit Card. (Save that for their children and grandchildren or they might wise up and dump us all).

Yesterday the "Captain's Quarters" blog reported on news HuffPo may have missed.
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If Dems Vote For Defense Funding And The Media Misses It, Will It Make A Noise With The Netroots?

I had not realized that the Senate passed the Defense Department authorization yesterday until the Standard commented on it this morning. The spending bill passed overwhelmingly, 92-3, with only Robert Byrd, Tom Coburn, and Russ Feingold in opposition. Tellingly, the Democrats running for office from the Senate all managed to miss the vote -- Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Chrsi Dodd, and Joe Biden.

Democrats had threatened to hold up the Defense appropriation until George Bush bent to their will on Iraq. Harry Reid had petulantly taken the bill off the table in July, attempting to hold it to the last minute in order to pressure Republicans to change course in Iraq. Instead, as the success of the surge became more and more apparent, Reid found the ground falling out from beneath him.

Oddly, no major newspaper on my feed list bothered to report this development. The AP did generate a story for use by its client newspapers, but apparently had few takers:

AP -- The US Senate Monday passed a mammoth 648 billion dollar defense policy bill, shorn of attempts by disappointed anti-war Democrats to dictate President George W. Bush's Iraq strategy.
The bill included around 128 billion dollars for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a Congressional Budget Office estimate.
The legislation passed by 92 votes to three after Democrats lost several attempts to dictate US troop levels in Iraq.----

Roll Call reports that the House will take up supplemental funding bills for the Iraq deployment, but that none of them call for any withdrawals. Congressional Quarterly reports that Nancy Pelosi has advised against working on withdrawal timetables until early next year, claiming that there will be more "consensus" on withdrawal by January or early February.

This begs the question: if a party collapses in the weeds, will its extremists acknowledge that it didn't make a peep?

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/014104.php

What's wrong with the dem leaders? Pussies. The war has created a gargantuan debt for generations of our children and you're worried about someone hurling a label your way? Get out there and fight! At a minimum, bush's tax cuts for the rich should be rescinded and made retroactive.

Good for Obey! Just who are the narrow minded "leaders" that run from their own shadows? Hoyer? Pelosi? Who?
They understand nothing of political dynamics, of how to project arguments that put opponents on the defensive. They are too lazy and comfortable losing.

This is exactly the type of legislation that will end this contrived occupation and folly of death and mayhem.

The only thing Repukes like more than sending others to futile deaths is MONEY!

Obey has it correct. I hope he fights the jellyfish that refuse to fight.

What I dont understand is that Corporations and very rich individuals are posting record profits. If they are so "patriotic" cant they see fit to invest in America by paying 15% of their ill-gotten riches? I am wondering why whats left of the middle class and working poor have to shell out an additional 2% plus their kids, to fight this war.
Those posting 400% increase in profits (Hey Big Oil, Hey Big Pharma - thats you!) have already enjoyed that pay increase and now it's time to support the war effort (invasion, actually) Would be nice if THEIR kids were fighting too.

Bush constantly says that not voting for money for Iraq is showing that the dems are against the troops.

He's for the troops, sending them in without arming them properly from the beginning, not letting them have a rest, hiding them as they return dead and wounded so he avoids knowing the cost, and as for the wounded, they don't get much support.

And the rampant corruption via his friends in the Iraqi government, as well as no bid contracts, and several billion dollars gone astray. It doesn't seem to me that we have an administration that cares much for the troops at any point in their travail. So why give him money?

Is everybody out of their effn minds?

Misuse the USA, the USMC and the all volunteer forces until our Home Land Security is dependent on a combat readiness of 1/3 for all the combat troops currently in country.

Troops returned to the combat zone without fronts for multiple tours. Closing in on 4,000 combat related American troop deaths. Tens of thousands of casualties including tens of thousands of undiagnosed traumatic brain injuries and potentially hundreds of thousands of PTSD patients.

Our international reputation once the envy of the world is now one of terror and horror.

Our treasury for generations dedicated to the Iraqi freedom?

This war has been financed on the heads of our children. A war on the credit card? This is responsible government?

Mercenary Corporations, corporations that employ guns for hire in a war zone and working for whoever hires them, are now to be an American donation to the civilized world? Really? And they can make donations to people running for the very offices deciding issues of war or peace? Really?

If a war is worth fighting it's worth paying for and drafting citizens for.

IF A WAR IS NOT WORTH PAYING FOR OR SACRIFICING BY ALL THE CITIZENS .......IT IS NOT WORTH FIGHTING.

Bush is now joined by the leadership of the Democratic congress in the conspiracy to hide a war.