Waxman: "State Department Is Acting As Blackwater's Enabler"

Associated Press   |  RICHARD LARDNER and ANNE FLAHERTY   |   October 2, 2007 06:30 PM


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Waxman said he was particularly concerned to learn the State Department advised the company on how much to pay the family of the Iraqi security guard shot by a drunken Blackwater employee in 2006. Internal e-mails later revealed a debate within the State Department on the size of the payment, Waxman said.

"It's hard to read these e-mails and not come to the conclusion that the State Department is acting as Blackwater's enabler," Waxman said.

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- dora_rice See Profile I'm a Fan of dora_rice

Hello, it's 2007. Heavy tanks are out. Hit squads are in. Whiners go back to 1894 and quit fighting wars if you are not up to date in modern war fare. Keep hollering about the constitution while the russiand and chinese get ready for you and haul you off to do hard labor in China's rice paddies. You think that's fantasy? I got news for you. Keep working against the government and your grand children will feel the pain , wuzzes. This coming from a life long democrat. But I believe I still have some balls and want to defend this country the way we need to in 2007

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 10/03/2007
- dora_rice See Profile I'm a Fan of dora_rice

we can have a militia, it's written in the constitution, getting read of Blackwater will make the Iranians and their sympathizers , for example Malaki , win. By the way, institute the draft, you can't have it both way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 10/03/2007
- roxnev See Profile I'm a Fan of roxnev

who created black water there is no place in the constitution that says they can create a security force. Article I Section 8 To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces

Black water is illegal it is just away to steal tax payer dollars

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 10/03/2007
- esquire07 See Profile I'm a Fan of esquire07

Iraq is a training ground for Blackwater. After Dick Cheney drops a nuclear bomb on an American city, it will be Blackwater killing US Civilians in the streets.

The privatization of the US Military is going just as planned.

Good luck with that 08 election. The US is one so called "terrorist attack" from total facism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 10/03/2007
- Moshe See Profile I'm a Fan of Moshe

Tragically, I think you are absolutely right Esquire.

If you have not already seen it, everyone needs to see Cusack's interview with Klein on her book "The Shock Doctrine." Cheney and Company are operating from the Friedman school of corporate fascism, but take the immoral exploitation of tragedy to a whole new level by manufacturing tragedy and chaos to create an environment they can criminally exploit without any real risk of accountability.

This is 17 minutes, but an absolute must see interview:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-cusack/huffpost-exclusive-my-in_b_65990.html

There is still hope, but the danger of an unstoppable wave of fascism increases every day these traitors are allowed to strengthen their oligarchical rule and chip away at any democratic accountability and the rule of law.

The key to defeating these traitors is throughly exposing them (the best remedy to covert plans is to make them overt), and then for an informed People to stand together in firm unity against the fascist plans of our would-be rulers.

Fascism is evil, plain and simple, and the dark cloud of fascism simply cannot be allowed to engulf this great nation. The result would be a tragedy of historical proportions around the World as what happens in the U.S. affects ever person on this planet. Far too much is at stake to simply give in to the dark fantasies and boundless greed of Cheney and his twisted allies.

In hopes of a better future, Shalom to all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 10/03/2007
- PollM See Profile I'm a Fan of PollM



Guards working in Iraq for Blackwater USA have shot innocent Iraqi civilians and have sought to cover up the incidents, sometimes with the help of the State Department, a report to a Congressional committee said today.
Do you believe the U.S. government in any way helped in the cover up of Blackwater reckless behavior? -----> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=622

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 10/03/2007
- Moshe See Profile I'm a Fan of Moshe

Blackwater should scare the f-ing crap out of anyone that doesn't want to live in a brutal authoritarian police state.

As Naomi Wolf recognizes in her recent article "Fascist America in 10 Easy Steps" there is a clear historical pattern for transforming an open society into a fascist state.

Step number 3 is the creation of a thug caste, and Cheney/Halliburton's "Blackwater" thugs fit the bill perfectly.

The 10 steps are:

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy;
2. Create a gulag;
3. Develop a thug caste;
4. Set up an internal surveillance system;
5. Harass citizens' groups;
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release;
7. Target key individuals;
8. Control the press;
9. Dissent equals treason;
10. Suspend the rule of law.

Wolf demonstrates in her article that we are already well down the road toward fascism in America, and the closer we get to the event distorting gravity of the black hole of fascism, the more difficult it becomes to turn back. She states:

"Right now, only a handful of patriots are trying to hold back the tide of tyranny for the rest of us - staff at the Center for Constitutional Rights, who faced death threats for representing the detainees yet persisted all the way to the Supreme Court; activists at the American Civil Liberties Union; and prominent conservatives trying to roll back the corrosive new laws, under the banner of a new group called the American Freedom Agenda. This small, disparate collection of people needs everybody's help, including that of Europeans and others internationally who are willing to put pressure on the administration because they can see what a US unrestrained by real democracy at home can mean for the rest of the world."

You can read the full text of her article here:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5487

Shalom to all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 10/03/2007
- hopeless277 See Profile I'm a Fan of hopeless277

Yeah? And the DOJ on prosecutes Democrats. Your point is...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 10/03/2007
- ajax2 See Profile I'm a Fan of ajax2

Blackwater is State's private army, SS. They will not be prosecuted or defunded.
Listen to Connecticut Republican Shays gush fondly about this private army. One could easily imagine a Hitler staffer speaking in the same glowing terms of his beloved Black Shirts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 10/03/2007
- wheelskeepturning See Profile I'm a Fan of wheelskeepturning

Why has it taken so long for people to start noticing? I still say these guys will be out before our guys and thats why it is now becoming such an issue. It will look like they were forced out so they can exit while our guys end up having to cover thier asses on thier way out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 10/03/2007
- FatherWolf See Profile I'm a Fan of FatherWolf

Turns out that those fine Blackwater boys are shooting up things on a daily basis.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21111402/

Support our mercenaries!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 10/03/2007
- maxfusion See Profile I'm a Fan of maxfusion

lying Marxist dog, of the sixteen thousand plus missions performed by Blackwater, less than 1% involved the discharge of a firearm. Liar

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 10/03/2007
- Agentprovokatur See Profile I'm a Fan of Agentprovokatur

Ane even if you chose to use the source cited by the poster you insult, the CHAIRMAN of Blackwater in testimony admits to a rate in excess of 1% and insiders claim that it is 3 times that rate.

Another attendee of the Gen. Petraeus School of Statistical Research, apparently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 10/03/2007
- Agentprovokatur See Profile I'm a Fan of Agentprovokatur

Name calling and reposting of an unsupported (at least no reference to a source) statement of "fact".

At least he's not repeating his standard line:

"Liberal obsession with homosexuality is fascinating." or something to that effect that he has used in at least 9 posts to other stories on this site.

Should we infer, based on your own apparent "fascination" with that subject matter that you pulled your "facts" out of your own nether regions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 10/03/2007
- sofla954 See Profile I'm a Fan of sofla954

A private armed force operating in a U.S. War theatre funded by taxpayers via no-bid contracts, accountable to no one? What a great idea!

Don't you get it?
We avoid a draft (which would make the rich uncomfortable) by paying huge money to our friends to provide support services and "security" to our troops. Everybody wins! Our friends get rich and give our party lots of money, our troops don't have to wash dishes or peel potatoes or guard ambassadors, and the taxpayer.... errrmm... well, screw the taxpayer.

Blackwater is run by fundamentalist Christian Republican insiders who have latched onto the biggest gravy train in U.S. history... Republicans complain about kids getting "free health care", yet don't even flinch when Billions of dollars get siphoned to Bush's cronies without so much as a competitive bid.

The fleecing of America continues unabated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 10/03/2007
- PollM See Profile I'm a Fan of PollM



Guards working in Iraq for Blackwater USA have shot innocent Iraqi civilians and have sought to cover up the incidents, sometimes with the help of the State Department, a report to a Congressional committee said today.
Do you believe the U.S. government in any way helped in the cover up of Blackwater reckless behavior? -----> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=622
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 10/03/2007
- jacklambert See Profile I'm a Fan of jacklambert

Don't do polls. They 'spin'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 10/03/2007
- PaleMail See Profile I'm a Fan of PaleMail

And what does Miss Mushroom Cloud Rice have to say about her Blackwater boys? Cat got your tongue Condi?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 10/03/2007
- scooperss See Profile I'm a Fan of scooperss

And what are you going to do to fix this problem?
Oh no-not another non-binding resolution!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 10/03/2007
- Purple Girl See Profile I'm a Fan of Purple Girl

WOW YOU GUYS ARE QUICK- NO WONDER WE PAY YOU THE BIG BUCKS.
What are they putting in the water at the Senate & House- GHB?
Your mere thoughts and words do nothing Mr. Waxman- start proving it and bring charges!!!
Stop blowing smoke up our asses -we're getting colon cancer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 AM on 10/03/2007
- TLV See Profile I'm a Fan of TLV

I heard on NPR yesterday that the security workers who are employed by Blackwater make $1,000 per day! Imagine what those who run the company are making. Our soldiers are making - what? - $3,000 per month? This is how you choose to spend your YOUR tax money, bucko?! I am appalled. And the Bush administration can't even muster a decent G.I. Bill to save their souls.

Me? I choose to support the troops - not private firms that cost far too much and abuse our trust and that of the Iraqis.

Watch this to see what 9/11 and everything that has followed is about:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1981225573970187433

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 10/03/2007
- Striker5 See Profile I'm a Fan of Striker5

I should also point out that Blackwater provides security, which is different from conducting military operations. The weapons and training are to defend themselves and their clients. They do not attack objectives or hold pieces of key terrain, etc. The high profile shootouts have always been in response to an attack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 10/03/2007
- andyboy See Profile I'm a Fan of andyboy

Thanks so much Striker5 for that informative blurb.

God Bless the Real Troops.

And fuck the mercenary murderers from Blackwater. Who authorized them? Why do they need blanket immunity from liability?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 10/03/2007
- andyboy See Profile I'm a Fan of andyboy

And ze pay is magnifique!!!

Zis is because zey are skilled with the spraying of ze bullets I sink.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 10/03/2007
- scooperss See Profile I'm a Fan of scooperss

Yep they're completely innocent. That's the reason the Iraqis want them out and the reasons for all the investigations.

Sheesh do you live in THIS world or a parallel universe with internet access through a portal?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 10/03/2007
- MajorKong See Profile I'm a Fan of MajorKong

There is no accountability. Soldiers can be held accountable under the UCMJ and Law of Armed Conflict. These "contractors" don't answer to military law, US criminal law (because they're not operating in the US) or international law. They are in a sense "unlawful combatents" which is what we would call an armed Iraqi civilian in a war zone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 10/03/2007
- Ping See Profile I'm a Fan of Ping

I don't think they are exempt from international law. I think Erik "I kill for a" Price can be arrested outside the US and be charged with war crimes. If someone in a foreign country is willing to charge the bastard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 10/03/2007
- Striker5 See Profile I'm a Fan of Striker5

If you removed uninformed, spluttering invective from the American Left there would be almost total silence.

The US government hires Blackwater because it is cheaper and more efficient. While there is a very large expenditure up front, we as taxpayers will never have to pay for medical care, life insurance, etc, like we do for our servicemembers. Long term, contract-fulfilling care is where a large amount of our defense dollars go. With Blackwater and other PMC's, you pay them and that's it. That's why it's cheaper.

Blackwater is made up almost completely of veteran law enforcement and military, with an emphasis on former special operations people. These people bring a lot of expertise and experience without the enormous logistical "footprint" and big bureaucracy of the military.

Whether we agree or disagree, many of these individuals view this as a way of serving their country and getting paid much, much, much more. That's why they don't "REJOIN". If you could get paid 2-4 times as much for doing the job you're already doing wouldn't you want to get paid more?

I'm not saying that Blackwater doesn't make mistakes (although I've got a $20 that says they don't even appraoch the US military in the numbers of civilians killed) or that they shouldn't be held to some sort of standard.
What I AM trying to do is to dispel this notion that BW personnel are a bunch of sociopathic Rambos driving around randomly shooting people for laughs. They have some problem people, just like any police force or infantry unit or pizza franchise or advertising firm or...while the stakes are higher the dynamic is the same.

98% of anything I see on HuffPo about Blackwater (or pretty much anything involving the military for that matter) is simply ignorant, conspiracy laden gibberish. If you are going to direct so much hate their way, learn some facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 10/03/2007
- Wiredwilly See Profile I'm a Fan of Wiredwilly

The Sons of Liberty, George Washington & the Continental Army fought for FREE. There WAS no money. They fought for IDEALS. They fought for Liberty and to be free from King George and the Bank of England, not to SUPPORT the Bank of England , and, if you study International Finance, you better believe they are fighting for the Bank of England. Taxpayers DO pay for Blackwater's Health and Life Insurance. The Government pays the upfront money and Blackwater takes it and uses Taxpayer money to pay the Insurance Companies, saying THEY are paying the cost. Just a Verbal silght-of-hand. They got that much money because apparently somebody in the Company had some connection to Jeb Bush's wife. Period. War isn't the National Football League.
If it's not worth fighting for Free, it's not worth fighting for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 10/03/2007
- Agentprovokatur See Profile I'm a Fan of Agentprovokatur

4) You however ignore other factors such as the effects of privatization of coercion - the power to compel non-contractually bound action, up to and including killing someone - which is (for many good reasons history has shown us) almost exclusively reserved to the government. You do mention the impact of such high salaries in preventing re-enlistment without even considering the possible impact of such high salaries on the initial enlistment rate and our ability to maintain any form of volunteer military. What about the political (Public relations if you will) effect on people around the world who watch our use of mercenaries? History is also full of bad consequences or unexpected consequences from their use.

I know many of the factors I raise cannot be easily reduced to a dollar and cents cost, and many are therefore tempted to ignore them or claim that they don't matter.
I believe they do. I for one would also like to see them openly discussed and weighed in a public forum before we 1) continue to spend what I believe (based on years of observation of government wasteful spending) will ultimately be more than we should have, eliminating any "cost efficiency" argument and 2) take actions that cost us even more in damage to our standing in the eyes of the world and our own body politic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 10/03/2007
- Agentprovokatur See Profile I'm a Fan of Agentprovokatur

Two part reply:

Maybe you read my earlier posting, but either you didn't or you chose to ignore the "ignorant, conspiracy laden gibberish" of someone who asked a few questions about the use of such mercenaries. I did read your post and wonder:

1) Your source for your economics based argument that they are "cheaper and more efficient". Regarding "cheaper" -the simplistic reporting in the MSM indicates they are paid (and you admit the salary levels are indeed much greater) far more than our soldiers performing equivalent tasks. I have never seen any actual analysis of the full in cost. Another question " does your analysis consider the time value of money? When you start talking "long term contracts" you should. And not to get snippy, but most commentators argue that any government spending is wasteful and inefficient (as most analyses of military spending will show), so why should we believe in this case the government actually did a thorough financial analysis that wasn't simply "We need it now so buy it at whatever the cost"? Or to borrow a quote from a movie, that they didn"t follow the old government saw "Why buy one when you can get two for twice (or thrice) the price."

2) In the area of "efficiency", you offer no statistics to support that and in fact don"t even define the term, other than, we are left to assume as simple dollars and cents.

3) Unlike most supporters who use simple financial measures of efficiency and fail to acknowledge them, you DO allude to externalities (those costs " negative consequences of our actions that do not have a direct dollar out of pocket cost attached to them) such as civilians killed and make the unsupported claim that they commit less than the regular military. How do you know? Does that consider the difference between full on combat and their claimed more limited missions? Too many factors to discuss here, but I'd bet there is no data to compare with the same function performed by regular military troops so you again are assuming without support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 10/03/2007
- MoNut See Profile I'm a Fan of MoNut

It's "too much bureaucracy"...

It's "cheaper"...

It's the "intelligence"...

Hell, tomorrow it will probably be Big Foot or Cthulhu.

HOW is it "too much bureaucracy"?

HOW is it "cheaper"?

HOW is it cheaper than paying them a soldier's salary and providing them healthcare?

WHY is a typical Blackwater employee making FOUR TIMES the amount of the Commander on the ground?

WHY and HOW is a mercenary mafia "good" for America and it's "moral values"?

WHAT is different in their training that can't be done with oversight and through the military?

These umbrella'd GOP excuses hold less water than a Army Corps levee in a poor district.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 10/03/2007
- andyboy See Profile I'm a Fan of andyboy

If you could get paid 2-4 times as much for doing the job you're already doing wouldn't you want to get paid more?

No. Because it would be wrong. There's a question of who's money is being spent to enable you to get your 2x to 4x more pay. It's not okay to just figure out a way to bamboozle the taxpayer out of billions of dollars just so you can make a bunch of loot.

Are you insane? Where did you ever learn such criminality? Do you really think you can just rationalize away any and all types of heinous and criminal acts?

Your fooling no one. This a boondoggle. A war crime. A disgusting perversion thought up by the neo-cons who lied us into Iraq in the first place. We know now what they are doing. This is the whole reason we're over there. To line "veteran law enforcement" cronies pockets.

Your defense of these devils is revolting and should horrify any American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 10/03/2007
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