Justice Dept Under Gonzales Issued Secret Opinion Authorizing 'Harsh CIA Interrogations'

Hi,

It is pretty disgusting that the President and Vice President would go back in history to see what the Nazis and Stalin and other "bad guys" did in their concentration camps and prisons so that "we" (the United States) could copy them!

Who would have thunk?

The world went to war against the Nazis and what they were doing and these guys want to emulate them?

The United States won WW II without resorting to torturing the prisoners we captured.

Perhaps out present administration have forgotten that (an inconvenient truth).

What do U think?

What doesn't matter?

Somehow we all missed the full lesson from Father Dick about what doesn't matter.

We all heard that deficits don't matter.

What Dick knew but didn't tell us is:

Congress doesn't matter.
The Constitution doesn't matter.
The Courts don't matter.
Geneva Convention doesn't matter (shit, you should have known that just by the name.).
American public opinion doesn't matter.
Iraqi civilian deaths don't matter (of course you remember collateral damage. Thank you Blackwater.)

"Who Killed John O' Neill" video on a new free video library dense website along with the PBS doc "The Man Who Knew" and many others I find key to piecemealing this madness/information warfare - http://in-formation.us

Did anyone see that Stepford Whitehouse spokeswench Fran Townsend on the Shituation room tonight, answering Blitzer on this issue?

She had a condescending smirk on her pasty faced mug that made me want to puke.

Why does the Bush administration hate America?

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proof that Bush is off the cocaine wagon.

Reply | Parent | posted 09:23 pm on 10/04/2007

order of business
impeach and publish everones name that voted aginst remove from office one way plane ticket to the hague

It is the same old elite scam, used throughout history. Play both sides to move the agenda along without causing a revolt.

Bush and Cheney are THE terrorists and they are also the ones designated to "protect" us. Funny how all their "protections" destroy our freedom, privacy, bring us dictatorship and enrich the terrorist "protectors" Bush and Cheney.

The elite are using this scam so much these days that it may actually stop working. Same with Hillary. She is by her actions a Necon. Funny how all the "top tier" Republican candidates align themselves with Bush just enough to ensure they absolutely will not be elected. This ensures a Clinton victory and the continuation of the Neocon agenda. There is great deceit taking place.

Same thing happened with Bush and his cousin and fellow Bonesman Kerry. Funny, with all that vote corruption, he did not challenge the election. I wonder why?

Similar manipulation with the Democrats. The party line propaganda focuses on social issues but everything they touch becomes worse. Then, the Democratic leaders offer new "solutions" that worsen things further. The Solutions always involves weakening the middle class (the real threat to the elite) with taxes and passing legislation that pushes America to communism (central elite control).

Let's see, one side pushes towards dictatorship and one side towards communism. Can you say brutal communist dictatorship? Can you see there is really only one side. Do you remember the movie the matrix? How do you bend the spoon with you mind? You must realize there is no spoon.

The dark side of the Force now controls much of the Legislature, Executive and Judicial branches. Not everyone, just enough. We will fall in to darkness if you don't smarten up. We only need to expose this scam and it will be defeated. Give you children the gift of freedom. Start with Ron Paul.

If one of these Latin-mass Catholics were to show up in St. Louis on a Sunday, would the Cardinal give him communion?

GO! Dems.

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House OKs bill to prosecute contractors By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer
17 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - The House passed a bill Thursday that would make all private contractors working in Iraq and other combat zones subject to prosecution by U.S. courts. It was the first major legislation of its kind to pass since a deadly shootout last month involving Blackwater employees.


Democrats called the 389-30 vote an indictment of the shooting incident there that left at least 13 Iraqis dead. Senate Democratic leaders said they planned to follow suit with similar legislation and send a bill to President Bush as soon as possible.

Seems like a continuing path. Did not the Clinton administration approve torture when it requested the CIA to establish the policy of extraordinary rendition. The idea was that suspected terrorists could be whisked off to Egypt - where, we know what can happen there.

Yes, under Bush and the times, one could safely assume that this path has accelerated.

The question to ponder is: do we hold only one accountable, while giving the other a pass? Or/ do we debate the topic and expect future occupants of the WH to be also held accountable?

Professor says Bush revealed National Guard favoritism

NEW YORK (CNN) -- A business school professor who taught George W. Bush at Harvard University in the early 1970s says the future president told him that family friends had pulled strings to get him into the Texas Air National Guard.

Yoshi Tsurumi, in his first on-camera interview on the subject, told CNN that Bush confided in him during an after-class hallway conversation during the 1973-74 school year.

"He admitted to me that to avoid the Vietnam draft, he had his dad -- he said 'Dad's friends' -- skip him through the long waiting list to get him into the Texas National Guard," Tsurumi said. "He thought that was a smart thing to do."

While the campaign has not responded directly to Tsurumi's allegations, White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett said last week, "Every time President Bush gets near another election, all the innuendo and rumors about President Bush's service in the National Guard come to the forefront."

Bush has said in the past that neither he nor his father sought special treatment for him. "Any allegation that my dad asked for special favors is simply not true," he said in 1999.

Tsurumi said Vietnam was a top topic among the 85 students in his class, when he was a visiting associate professor at Harvard from 1972 to 1976. He now teaches at Baruch College in New York.

"What I couldn't stand -- and I told him -- he was all for the U.S. to continue with the Vietnam War. That means he was all for other people, Americans, to keep on fighting and dying."

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Tsurumi said he remembers Bush because every teacher remembers their best and worst students, and Bush was in the latter group.

"Lazy. He didn't come to my class prepared," Tsurumi said. "He did very badly."

"Somehow I found him totally devoid of compassion, social responsibility, and good study discipline," Tsurumi said. "What I remember most about him was all the kind of

as i read this article i was sickened. with each turn of the page it gets worse. impeachment is absolutely indicated.

What's the problem?

How many Republicans does it take to screw up a nation?

The DEFEATOCRATS 'cave' once again!

Senate Democrats Cave on Intelligence Bill
It"s No Longer Just Reid"s Failure; It"s the Entire Democrat Caucus

By Mark I

Yesterday, the Senate unanimously approved the FY 2008 Intelligence Authorization Act. The bill authorizes all expenditures for intelligence related activities and gives Congressional approval to all of it"s heretofore most controversial programs.

By agreeing to the bill, unanimously, which cannot be stressed enough, Senate Democrats had to swallow some bitter pills. One, they had to drop their demand that the White House turn over all Presidential Daily Briefs between 1997 and 2003. So much for Bush Lied!„¢. Two, they had to agree to drop a provision that would have required the Director of National Intelligence to assess the impact of climate change on US national security. Sorry, Mr. Gore.

But worst of all for Democrats is the fact that they have now given their assent to the Bush Administration"s most hated intelligence programs by throwing money at them. Warrantless wiretapping, it"s funded. Rendition, funded. Aggressive interrogations, ca-ching! In other words, they"re no longer the president"s "torture interrogations," They"re the Senate"s as well.