Giuliani Raps Clinton For Preaching "Socialism"

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First Posted: 10- 4-07 05:42 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Chicago Sun-Times:

At a suburban Chicago community college, Republican Rudy Giuliani campaigned Thursday as if the primary elections were over and his only opponent for president was Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Giuliani, speaking at the College of DuPage, repeatedly slammed "HillaryCare" as "socialized medicine" and accused the Democratic frontrunner of supporting "socialism" for her proposal to give every American $5,000 when they are born as a college account.

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- ohmetoo I'm a Fan of ohmetoo 27 fans permalink
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Aren't our highways, schools, fire department and police departments funded with social funds!
Rude G needs a history lesson, an economics lesson and a family values lesson, oops too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 10/05/2007
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 256 fans permalink



Upon graduation, clerked for Judge Lloyd MacMahon, United States District Judge for the Southern District of New York -- paid for by the taxpayers.

1970, joined the office of the U.S. Attorney -- paid for by the taxpayers.

1975, named Associate Deputy Attorney General and chief of staff to the Deputy Attorney General -- paid for by the taxpayers.

In 1981, named Associate Attorney General, the third highest position in the Department of Justice -- paid for by the taxpayers.

In 1983, appointed US Attorney for the Southern District of New York -- paid for by the taxpayers.

1993, 107th Mayor of the City of New York, 1997 re-elected -- paid for by the taxpayers.

For a guy who's been suckling furiously at the public teat his entire adult life, Rudy has a curious antipathy for 'socialism'. Heaven forbid any of those tax dollars were to make it down the food chain to the unworthy, unwashed masses.

Fucking hypocrite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 10/05/2007
- dr4Will I'm a Fan of dr4Will 10 fans permalink
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will someone tell the ugliest candidate of the right wing repugs to quit whinning and shut up!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 10/05/2007
- RGKahn I'm a Fan of RGKahn 5 fans permalink

Defination of Socialism is as follows:
"socialism |ˈsō sh əˌlizəm| noun a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. • policy or practice based on this theory. • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism. The term “socialism” has been used to describe positions as far apart as anarchism, Soviet state communism, and social democracy; however, it necessarily implies an opposition to the untrammeled workings of the economic market.The socialist parties that have arisen in most European countries from the late 19th century have generally tended toward social democracy.
DERIVATIVES socialist noun & adjective socialistic |ˌsō sh əˈlistik| adjective socialistically |ˌsō sh əˈlistik(ə)lē| adverb
ORIGIN early 19th cent.: from French socialisme, from social (see social )."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 10/05/2007
- BC33 I'm a Fan of BC33 2 fans permalink

Rudy is a slime-ball and more "fatally flawed" than any other candidate. The more people throw the term "Socialism" around, the more i get desensitized. Compared to how the greed and corruption Capitalism has brought this to its knees, I am ready to try anything.

Oh yeah, Rudy....911,911,911

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 10/05/2007

You want to see a counter-revolution?
Force all multi-nationals to pay mandatory 30% tax on total gross income, just like the average joe does with payroll tax.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 10/05/2007

ABOLISH THE PAYROLL TAX FOR OVERTIME PAY...YOU WORKED YOUR FOURTY PAID YOUR DUES....
NO PAYROLL TAXES ON OVERTIME WAGES

NO PAYROLL TAXES ON OVERTIME WAGES

NO PAYROLL TAXES ON OVERTIME WAGES

NO PAYROLL TAXES ON OVERTIME WAGES.......

RUDY IS A JOKE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 10/05/2007

Rappin' Rudy!

"9/11, 9/11",
Secret Penthouse sure was heaven!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 10/05/2007

Notice that no one is discussing the Socialist program of the Department of Transportation that uses tax dollars to build roads in America. They just say "Oh but we need national roads, what would we do with out our national highways".

Well we need national healthcare. We need a Department of Healthcare.

Roads and cars are destroying the earth; healthcare saves lives. Do the math.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 10/05/2007

Of course ignoramus Giuliani has not the foggiest notion of what socialism is. He uses the word because almost nobody in the USA is afraid of communism any longer. I cheered what cineast Michael Moore said in response to Chris Matthews ranting about "socialized medicine" on "Hardball". We must call it "christianized medicine" Moore explained.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 10/05/2007

Actually the worst news for Giuliani is that nearly every American today who is not legally insane knows the one word that epitomizes our social malaise. That word is not "socialism". It is "Enron!" Let's call the business crimes committed by that and other companies "Enronism" from now on. Mr. Giuliani, why don't you slay Enronism instead of the imaginary dragon of socialism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 10/05/2007
- Nova16 I'm a Fan of Nova16 34 fans permalink

With the country in control of the fascists in the republican party, no one need fear the "terror" of socialism. Legitimate services provided by the government thru taxes for our security, welfare and to "promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity" sound a little socialistic to me. Welfare Capitalism has been around for decades in some way or another--farm subsidies, oil subsidies, faith based inititatives, auto company bailouts, Home Savings and Loan bailouts, tax credits, Halliburton War Corporation no bid contracts, Lobbyists, foreign aid,etc., etc. Anyone can add his or her own list of beneficiaries. Regardless of the debate, any system that places the wealth of a nation in the hands all its citizens for the purpose of increased purchasing power to enable them to buy the goods and services of corporations and businesses will be successful­--Econ101. Trickle down contains within it, the seeds of its own destruction, "voodoo economics".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 10/05/2007
- Doug I'm a Fan of Doug 13 fans permalink

"With the country in control of the fascists in the republican party"... the irony of saying that in a public forum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 10/05/2007

Oh, God. That's soooo 1950s. Is the GOP so short of tar-words that they have to reach back in time? How retro. Sorry, guys. Namecalling is no substitute for policy debate. What does the flip-flopper Mayor from NY have to say about the issues of the day that matter?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 10/05/2007
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 23 fans permalink

What a frigging joke. Most people do not even know what socialism, particularly this jerk and the press as well.

I am personally very tired of shill mouth pieces just spewing shit from their mouths. Most of these people are non thinkers, period. Nothing else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 10/05/2007

HAHAHAHAHAHA..

I live in Holland where it is MANDATORY for everyone to have a health insurance policy just like if you own a car its mandatory to have auto insurance.

Average cost is 100 Euros a month , no deductibles, no prescreens (highly illegal) and have choice of doctor or hospital.

I have NEVER had to wait more than 8 hours for an MRI or to see a doctore. IN fact, doctors here still do house calls in the middle of the night. I have never paid for ANY RX no matter what drug/.

Guiliani is preaching for BigPharma and other bullshit rapers of people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 AM on 10/05/2007
- Doug I'm a Fan of Doug 13 fans permalink

blah blah blah

I pay a lot more for medical care. I choose to pay a lot more. I make more money, so I pay more for the best doctors because they charge more because they are the best. I get better care because I am better and my doctors get more money because they are better.

Oh, and my internist does house calls.

If you don't like the drugs we produce don't buy them. You're wonderful country certainly isn't producing the drugs or paying for the R&D because of price restrictions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 10/05/2007

There are more inept doctors in the USA than anywhere on earth.

You are a fucking idiot who thinks just having more money gives you better care.

The Ugly Dumbfuck American strikes again.

Listen, up there, Goofy,

In this country a person with a 7 figure bank account doesn't have to fear losing it with one serious illness.

Perhaps thats why we outlive Americans and people are much healthier and happier.

Stress is a killer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 10/05/2007

Actually more drugs are produced outside of the USA than inside.

Ever hear of Roche labs? Swiss...

etc etc et.

Again,you are an idiot who doesn't give a fuck about his fellow Americans.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 10/05/2007
- Rand I'm a Fan of Rand 46 fans permalink

Gotcha, Doug! Poor people and those cwho are just "working class" deserve to die


WHY DO YOU HATE YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS???????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 10/05/2007
- CeeCee I'm a Fan of CeeCee 38 fans permalink

HAHAHAHAHAHA - I want to join you in this!!

I live in Canada where it's called universal health care. I pay a small annual premium (about $200) to the government, I choose my own doctor, and I never have to worry about paperwork or medical bills.

My question to this bizarre Giuliani guy is: And socialism is bad because...????? Oh, wait, I'm sorry, you mean it's bad because it takes care of my medical bills and I don't have to go bankrupt or be refused medical care, and children get all the treatment they need and no one would dream of vetoing that...oh, yes, my mistake, Rudy!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 10/05/2007
- adamsmith I'm a Fan of adamsmith 5 fans permalink

Good thing the U.S. is the same size and same homogeneous society that the Netherlands are...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 10/05/2007

Socialism won't work in America because people actually hate their fellow citizens......

Everything in America is geared to ''GREED'' and how can I fuck my neighbor for a quick buck.

Thats why America has the most lawyers per capita of any nation on earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 AM on 10/05/2007
- Doug I'm a Fan of Doug 13 fans permalink

I don't hate other citizens, I just want them to work for what they have instead of expecting society to take care of them. Those who steal from the people who make an honest living are the haters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 10/05/2007

The biggest thieves on earth are the people in the Health industry in America.

Thats the bottom line.

Middlemen getting filthy rich pushing papers around.

10 dollar aspirins in the hospital.

Doug, you are clueless.

I lived 30 years in the USA so I know the difference.

Its all a big ripoff over there.

People work here also. But who cannot afford a 100 dollars month for health insurance???

Its mandatory here. Maybe not there but the taxpayer winds up bailing out people who cannot pay.

Perhaps someday your savings will be wiped out ,, then you will sing a different tune.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 10/05/2007


BUSH'S WAR ON AMERICAN CHILDREN
Children demand ‘Health care, not warfare’
Posted Oct 4, 2007 05:04 PM PST
Category: DUBYA

"Hell, they only gotta be healthy enough to pull a damned trigger!" -- Official White Horse Souse

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 10/05/2007
- Doug I'm a Fan of Doug 13 fans permalink

How about if the parents take care of their children?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 10/05/2007

Good idea and have the mother stay home with child instead of her 'career' and making more money being priority over a happy, health child.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 AM on 10/05/2007
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