Giuliani Raps Clinton For Preaching "Socialism"

Chicago Sun-Times:

At a suburban Chicago community college, Republican Rudy Giuliani campaigned Thursday as if the primary elections were over and his only opponent for president was Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Giuliani, speaking at the College of DuPage, repeatedly slammed "HillaryCare" as "socialized medicine" and accused the Democratic frontrunner of supporting "socialism" for her proposal to give every American $5,000 when they are born as a college account.

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Comments

[LindaSmart50]

IN the country I live in Europe if a health insurar cancelled someone for a pre existing condition they would go to prison for a long, long time.

[jimmyaj]

Hey Rudy, quit preaching fascism.

[1differentdrummer]

He does, doesn't he. Corporatism is just that. Add to that militarism and a few other things espoused by the R party today and that's the path they've taken our once-great nation down. And it took them so few years. Eisenhower, a genuine Conservative, would be a Socialist compared to these war party folks.

[Doug]

Everyone is making these ridiculous arguments that government = socialism. That's simply not true. Police, firemen, roads, military, etc. these are all the basic function of government.

When we're talking about socialism, we are talking about social programs (the government playing robbinhood with honest successful people). We are talking about the government thwarting free trade for the "benefit of society". Socialism is evil.

[mikeodd]

Socialists believe in dealing with things in-house. Hence overreliance on blood-sucking 'contractors' like Halliburton will be exchanged for more logical, cost-effective solutions.
Accountablility is also essential to the system.
National industries (oil,electricity,coal,farming)could be cleanly and effectively managed by a government ministry as opposed to a CEO or Board of Directors. Safety and environmental concerns wouldn't be as easily disregarded if someone had to answer for a change.Not to mention, NATIONAL AND CIVIC INTEREST would be paramount to mere personal interest.
How's that evil?

[Doug]

Why has this never worked in the history on mankind?

The reason corrupt corporations exist because of government corruption influencing, tipping the scales from the nature of free trade. Do you think that government run corporations would be more honest?

Socialism is evil because it steals and claim it is in the "nation and civic interest".

[Rand]

Actually, Doug, capitalism is the ONLY economic system inherently designed to be unfair. Is that why you hate the notion of socialism? That it's goal (In theory, if not always in practice) is fairness?

[Doug]

You're saying equal is fair. That's not fair. Fair is "you reap what you sow."

Fuck equal.

[stargazer13]

IF I HAVE MY FACTS RIGHT OUR ROADS OUR FIRE DEPT GOD BLESS THEM OUR POLICE GOD BLESS THEM ARE BASED ON A SOCIAL SYSTEM FOR THE GOOD OF ALL SEEMS TO BE GOOD FOR US AS A SOCIETY OF COURSE OUR LAW IN FORCEMENT NEEDS A LITTLE TWEAKING TO AGGRESSIVE
IN MY OPINION !BECAUSE IF THE TRUTH BE KNOWN WE HAVE ALL BROKE THE LAW AT SOME TIMES IN OUR LIVES
I CAN,T HARDLY LIVE A DAY WITH OUT BREAKING THE LAW SPEEDING SEAT BELT SMOKEING WITH IN 25 FEET OF A DOOR WAY GETTING PRETTY HARD TO NOT BREAK SOME KIND OF LAW JUST LIVING DAILY LIFE THE WAY I LOOK AT IT PEACE TO ALL FORGIVENESS ALSO

[Steamboater]

I heard on Keith Olberman tonight that although Giuliani condemned Hillary's plan about $5,000 bonds for every newborn and likened it to McGovern's $1,000 for every amercian when he ran for the presidency, Giuliani VOTED for McGovern!!! LOL

[OneTop]

Sheeeesh !
99.9999999 % of Americans don't even understand what Social Programs or Socialism is.

They just know that they should be afraid of it.

If they only knew how many Social Programs they already pay for ..... and would not do without.

Fica
Suta
Futa
Welfare
Medicaire
Medicaid
Public Roads
Public Libraries
Public Fire Protection
Public Police Protection
National Guard
The Armed Forces
Agricultural Subsidies
Oil Corp. Subsidies
Defence Industries..
and the list goes on and on

[Peabodies]

Clean water from the tap

[researcher]

the average american voter is so brainwashed they look for a commie under their bed every night and the next day they drive their BMW around town.

if there are dumber voters in this world than americans I have not found them.

unchecked capitalism is eliminating the middle class in america while they line up to vote repub. ie ohio is a classic example of this in the last two elections. the more jobs the repubs send overseas the more those from ohio love it.

I think some people just like to be screwed. speaking of screwed there is a new book out called screwed.

give the neo cons credit they know how to brainwash those with less IQ than them.

unless a third party comes on and soon it is third world baby.

even the neo cons in the third world know how to play the game like mexico sending us their poor and uneducated as cheap labor for our neo cons to keep their elitist society intack.

[ImmanuelGoldstein]

unchecked capitalism is eliminating the middle class in america while they line up to vote repub. ie ohio is a classic example of this in the last two elections. the more jobs the repubs send overseas the more those from ohio love it.

That isn't really true, the Ohio Repukes were decimated in the last elections and they dont look to do better in 2008.

[LindaSmart50]

YOu are right, america is world renowned now for being a 'Nation of Idiots'.

[LindaSmart50]

What I find ironic and hilarious is that socialist countries like Spain and many other European countries already own and run half of your businesses.

Spanish companies are going to be building toll roads in the USA.

LOL.

[Gary47]

Oh, so Hillary's a socialist 'cause she wants to help kids with financially with college. But repubs are cool with giving big tax breaks to rich folks and profit-rich corporations like oil companies. So let me get this straight. According to repubs, socialism is when government gives money to the poor or middle class. Capitalism is when government gives money to rich folks and corporations. Clear as day and stupid as an ass.

[chillmonster]

At least he's being original...

[Pneumaticus]

Well, yes, Rudy, what do you expect? Socialism is the obvious remedy for your idiotic agenda and the Republican oligarchy's determination to pillage this country's resources, material and human, not to mention our core values. So watch out -- you may even be pilloried in the process.

[Wiredwilly]

Astonishing : Democracy IS Socialism. Everyone gets an equal voice. The State prints the money. Everyone gets an equal Vote. The Police are Socialist. Payed by the people. The Post Office is Socialist. Payed by the people. The Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines are Socialist. Payed by the people. The Libraries are Socialist. Payed by the People. The Fire Department is Socialist. Payed by the People. The Public Schools are Socialist. Payed by the People. Giuliani is a Socialist. The Mayor of New York is PAYED BY THE PEOPLE. America is actually a hybrid society. The essential needs provided by Socialism, luxury items and the Arts, Capitalism. EXCEPT MEDICINE because it's such a cash cow to exploit people's suffering. Get over it Rudy.

[mikeodd]

Ethos notwithstanding, Rudy is a magician.
He parlayed a $2Billion surplus into a $4Billion DEFICIT! The BQE, LIE remained cracked and neglected yet 30 bronze busts of Bernie Kerik were deemed necessary to commemorate his triumphant reign as NYPD Commish.

[lisakaz]

All Rudy got is 9/11 and I'll-save-the-US-from-"socialism". Another fearmongering campaign. Can't America do better than this tripe?

[MajorKong]

That's all Rudy's got at this point is red-baiting? That's usually the last measure of a desperate Republican when they have to resort to red-baiting.

[Peabodies]

Socialism is GOOD! If only people knew what socialism means, they'd rally to it! The Capitalists, the moneyed interests, don't want "the people" to know, so they vilify socialism. Most of Europe is socialist, and they're doing better than we are, if truth be told.

[KBAR]

Most of Europe is socialist, and they're doing better than we are, if truth be told.


Better at what?

[Peabodies]

Oh, education, healthcare, lifestyle, mental health ...

[lisakaz]

Not being raped by corporations perhaps who do get all sorts of handouts and breaks. Or maybe just more concern for the health and well being of their own electorate.

[rollingdivision]

Democrats, liberals, progressives, leftists are all socialists, so why is there a problem when this is pointed out? All one needs to observe is the fact Democrats, liberals, progressives and leftists have only one solution for all problems, increase the role, power and control of politicians. Name a problem and the answer is always socialism, no exceptions. Socialists understand most Americans do not universally support socialism for every problem and if the general public were to understand that these folks are socialists they couldn't win elections so their socialism is hidden.

[LindaSmart50]

Better at EVERYTHING.

[ohiomark]

Socialism only works on paper, NOT in reality. Socialism just spreads misery evenly. It punishes success and rewards laziness.

No wonder the Libs like it!!

Socialism is just like Liberalism. It always generates the exact opposite of it's stated intent.

[Peabodies]

Explain -- can't wait.

[MajorKong]

You really might want to think about spending less time reading Ayn Rand.

[Steamboater]

ohiomark must mean Compassionate Conservatism. because only ones who receive compassion are the very rich.

[situationcritical]

I rap Guiliani for preaching fascism.