Conservative Bloggers Attack 12-Year-Old Who Gave Dem Address On Kids' Health Care

ABC News Political Radar:

ABC News' Rick Klein Reports: With debate raging in Washington over children's health insurance, congressional Democrats found a new way to make their case for an expansion last weekend: Rather than have a senator or a congressman respond to President Bush's weekly radio address, they decided to have a child who was helped by the program speak directly to the public.

But the 12-year-old boy whom Democrats chose as their poster child is now at the center of a firestorm in Washington and beyond. Conservative bloggers who uncovered some details of the family's finances are blasting the family, calling the fact that they rely on federal insurance an example of how the State Children's Health Insurance Program has expanded beyond its original intent.

Read the whole story: ABC News Political Radar

Comments

[totalliberal]

["how about people taking care of themselves"]


Tell us when you're finished that highway your building for yourself.

[CluelessOne]

If the government did not provide roads, private enterprises would. In fact, that is the latest fad for building new roads (in addition to a widely used method when roads were not built by the government). Private/public partnerships to build toll roads.
I like to think of it as the latest in 'stealth' taxes.

[ohhellno]

CluelessOne.stfu

[UncleJimbo]

Yeah,And that Fire Department your running to protect your home! When do you find time to police your property? With Republicans it's always the fucking myth that you just have to make more money to solve your problems! Here's a revelation...Not everyone can launch rockets for NASA! And mister Christiany Republican maybe you don't think God was being sarcastic (remember God is the Author of the Bible,He put all the words in it,into the minds of the writers!) when he had Cain ask "Am I My Brothers Keeper?" The Answer is YES!

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

but you forget they take the bible literally and it says brother, not poor family down the street...

[Heterodoxy]

Despicable loathesome Rape-Public-Cans have lost all moral scruples. Here are but a few of their 'Christian family value thoughts'

Do we dare say it???

Phony poor kid.

posted on 10/07/2007 12:09:11 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1907687/posts


"Soft hearted old compassionate conservative that I am, I suggested that: 1-if federal funds were required the could die for all I care. Let the parents get second jobs, let their state foot the bill or let them seek help from private charities. And 2-I would hire a team of PIs and find out exactly how much their parents made and where they spent every nickel. Then I'd do everything possible to destroy their lives with that info...
...Hang 'em. Publically. Let 'em twist in the wind and be eaten by ravens. Then maybe the bunch of socialist patsies will think twice."

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/mbecker908/2007/oct/07/schip_nonsense


Sanctimonious morally bankrupt Repukes have no conscience. Christian is the farthest thing from the truth.

[project]

What I want to know is do they have their dicks out?
After all conservatives are first and formost child molesters,after that comes greed and being closet homosexuals.

[CluelessOne]

Am I really reading this? What could possibly possess you to pen such a vicious rant?
By the way, I think you have the items in your post ranked improperly, greed always comes first with conservatives.

[Ginzaman]

Illegal immigration is a human rights and economic issue.

Not all illegal immigrants are brown skinned people who only speak Spanish. These people also come from Asia, Europe and Africa. So why does the corporate media continue to have selective amnesia when talking about this?

Human Nature 101: When people are desperate, they will do and say anything the have to to survive. It doesn't matter if you're in a village in Mexico or a mansion in Beverly Hills.

If the economy is so great, then why is a there a growing number of Americans who are emigrating? They go for many reasons: work, marriage, discrimination and more. Of course the corporate media refuses to acknowledge that reality. Because they kiss neocon ass and are afraid to actually work for a living.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants are NOT criminals. They are people who want a better life. If an American was desperate and wanted a better life say in Canada, how many people wouldn't risk everything to go? Would you go or would you stay in a miserable situation with no hope? It's hypocritical and insulting to other people who risk eveything to come here, work and actually contribute. If they don't, that's different. But the ulgy truth is the white power structure wants these people here to maintain a permenant sub class. They certainly wouldn't stoop so low as to pick tomatoes, chop cotton or clean toilets for minimum wage or less.

Once again, it comes down to money and power.

[reece5309]

thirty five million a month for welfare and food stamps for illegals in los angeles alone

[reece5309]

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for
Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

[TimN]

Is that 12 year-old kid an illegal?

[reece5309]

no - i dont think so but the schip program is just the beginning of what will be socia;ized medicine for EVERYONE - including illegal aliens put that with the $5000 baby bond - goverment housing - welfare - food stamps - and the soon to come free transportation for everyone an youve got a real disaster

[cynic]

Dearest TimN and reece5309,

What a wonderful job of sock-puppetry.

Why don't you get out of Mommy's basement and get a real job. Astrturfing for the republicans is about the slimiest thing in the world.

[MilwaukeeMike]

You forgot $140 Billion supplemental funding request for Iraq which is helping a whole bunch of illegal aliens or something. It's worth it though, it'll last a few months and those Iraqi illegal aliens won't come here.

[serialcoma]

or that money could be used to fund SCHIP and protect our borders... but taking care of citizens back home just isn't as much fun for republicans as killing little brown men, women and children overseas...

republicans are the enemy.

[CrimsonTom]

Affordable food and housing built on the grossly underpaid labor of immigrants: priceless.

[Birdman]

Most of the links are from Biased sources, try again, secondly what has this to do with this 12 year old? more of the republican tactic can't win the discusssion change it.

[rabun666]

It's the Republican deflection tactic, attack the messenger not the message.

[Qbear]

What a p*ss poor excuse for a human being who spends all his energy harrasing a poor kids family...FreeRepublic, how f*ckin typical!

[TimN]

I could care less if you're a 12 year old kid in a wheel chair, a celebrity with MS, or a Mom whose kid has died in Iraq; the DNC's habit of propping up their agendas with these human shields is pathetic.

If you choose to step into the political fray expect to get burned.

[mae692]

yeah, not like those snowflake babies Bush surrounded himself when he vetoes stem cell research.

[TimN]

If you've got some dirt on 'em. Bring it on.

[ronspri]

You prop yours up with generals and then cry when somebody objects. Shut up idiot.

[TimN]

General Petraeus is no human shield. He is an Army officer doing a job.


You'd have a case if Bush had sent in a 12 year old kid to give testimony on the Iraq surge.

[Quaoar]

So you're saying it's OK to stalk a 12 year old kid and his middle class family in order to dig up dirt on them if they disagree with you. Typical values from a party that thinks that wiretapping law-abiding citizens in the name of defending against terrorism is a good idea.

[MilwaukeeMike]

TimN, Dude! I just read your profile. No wonder you don't give a rat's ass about health insurance for civilians: you get it from the military. Nice job, and you do deserve it, too unlike so many others. I'm guessing your $35000 salary didn't include on base or off base housing, PX privileges, health insurance, life insurance, a retirement (Pension?). Man, how did you survive?

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

nice, i bet timn will or has retired from the military and will soon be double dipping in social security too....

[rabun666]

He';s a socialist, likes it and want to keep it secret just like those who receive corporate welfare and other who benefit from tax monies.Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor. Then he claim his socialist lifestyle is attributed to his own merit, a typical Republican troll, a narcissistic consumer glutton.

[barrycourage]

Yes, the parents should have understood that there would be SOME press and scrutiny.

But the GOP has gone overboard, to the point of sadism.

Their extreme behavior will backfire.

[mpgarr]

This attack on this family sounds like typical repugnicant BS----and they are a bit crazy---make millions and you are some sort of hero (espcecially if you make your millions scamming the evil government) or something but just work your ass off and try to have a decent but not extravegant life and you get crucified by them--

Total aholes!!!!!!

[Veronica]

WRONG! The Repugs love a good "American Dream," pulling-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps story, unless the person in question is John Edwards. He's obviously just some corrupt frivolous-lawsuit whore. Yup. The Repigs are also not big fans of venture capitalist George Soros and others....they only respect your millions if you contribute to Repiglican causes.

LOL! You gotta love 'em!

[rabun666]

You have to inherit your money, receive corporate welfare or otherwise not work for money to qualify to be a Republican elitist, Coors family, Mellon Scaife just to name a few of the more prominent Republican socialists who want to keep it secret. Socialism for the rich capitalism for the poor, it's a good deal. Try it you'll like it, I do.

[steven]

How many repugs does it take to beat up a twelve year old kid?

Repugs are to cowardly so the kid walks.

[kozy]

The right wing common folk (1/3 of the population) accepts the line about "socialized medicine," tax increases, medical care "cheaters," and all the rest of the anti- health care scare tactics without questioning it. The scare tactics are invented by insurance companies and drug manufacturers and mouthed by their far right media enablers. No advocate of affordable, accessable, or government paid health care wants or is suggesting SOCIALIZED MEDCINE!! "Socialized medicine" is government run health care where all doctors and nurses work directly for the government and hospitals and facilities are run directly by the government. What is proposed in all of these programs allows insurance companies to operate as a middleman and collect their profits from it. But, insurers don't like it because they have to insure everyone and can't just insure those that statistically won't get sick or have an accident. They still would make their MONEY, but there would be more uncertainty! Drug manufactures don't like it because they would have to compete more on drug pricing. Right wing mouthpieces don't like it because they are either paid spokesmen for insurance companies or they believe at their huge income levels, their taxes would go up. The right wing masses don't want it because they believe simple minded right wing sound bites and won't investigate details of the programs.

[reece5309]

how about people taking care of themselves

[SmootyBooty]

The elderly and the young deserve our help, but then you republics don't believe in the teachings of Christ, do you?

[totalliberal]

{"how about people taking care of themselves"]


Tell us when you're finished that highway your building for yourself.

[ronspri]

How about we form a community and take the profit out of life and death matters and take care of each other like decent loving people do.

[bikerdude]

What if they can't? Does society have any responsibility to care for their poorest or least capable? Maybe we can turn the ones who are at least semi-mobile to become indentured servants for the fat cats who get the tax cuts? How absurd is that?

[rabun666]

Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor, the American way. I live as a socialist because if the wealthy think it's a good deal I thought I'd try it and now I know why the wealthy like it. Keep working sucker because me, corporate welfare and the rich need your money. thank you very much which is more than the wealthy will say to you.

[TimN]

The right wing common folk (1/3 of the population) accepts the line about "socialized medicine," tax increases, medical care "cheaters," and all the rest of the anti- health care scare tactics without questioning it.


----

Nonsense, this country already has socialized medicine - it's called Medicare. The tax increase for that is no scare tactic. It's on each of our pay stubs, and incidents of Medicare fraud are legion.

[MilwaukeeMike]

Yes, Medicare fraud is rampant. Usually by unbelievably low reimbursement rates paid to physicians--many of whom reject medicare patients because they can't afford to see them. RESPONSE: Greedy doctors should treat people for free. RESPONSE: There are too many people to treat for free. RESPONSE: Trial lawyers sue doctors making their costs too high that's why there are so many uninsured. RESPONSE: Malpractice insurance industry surveys show this product most profitable and that there is no crisis. RESPONSE: You're a commie socialist

[Birdman]

Ahhh another example of old people, let em rot and die for all I care. Why do republicans hate this country? Is it becasue we are a people who think that someone who has worked all his life should have a littel piece of mind in thier old age.
Why are you not crying about your retired senators who retire a 100 percent pay and have medical coverage that is 100 percent free to them. I know that ain't the point. Fact is we pay for all that stuff but you whine about socialized medicine really what is your issue surely it can't be allwoing peopel to have sub standard care now is it. Oh I think I know it is, you do not want to pay for anything you should keep ALL your money huh. Why not ask Ole GW why he is spending 10 billion a month in Iraq, why not ask him why he is rebuilding a country he blew to hell, that is your money too. Oh I guess that is because you beleive we have to fight them over there or they will come and kill you in your bed. Better look under your bed often never know an Al Queda terrorist (Terist) will slip in and kill you.

[rabun666]

The Medicare corruption is being done by the care givers, not the beneficiaries. The care givers being insurance companies, hospitals, doctors and related enterprises. It's socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor so keep up the good work we need your money. Put some thought into what you type beforehand, if you can. Or are you just a troll?

[SmootyBooty]

If druggie limpballs says it, it must be true...

[SaviourMachine]

Typical.

Harass the boy and his family demanding information about them when they have no right to do so.

Start making things up and voila spit it out as if it's true.

Then begin smearing at full tilt.

Punchline - jokes on them.

Sum childrens not learns.

[reece5309]

So the bottom line for me is: They can't rely on truth to make their case for their cause. They have to lie. Be it about me, be it about their own voters (such as the Frosts) be it about President Bush, they must lie -- and anybody who stands in the way of their succeeding with that lie becomes an enemy, becomes a target. That's where I and my buddies in talk radio come in. We are a thorn in their side because we represent the truth they are trying to hide, the truth that they are lying about, and they have to do something about it -- and they have to do that by lying. The truth will not help 'em. The truth is inconvenient to today's Democrat Party and today's left. "Fiction" is their byword. Make it up. Make sure people cry about it. Have a lot of emotion attached to the fiction, and have no guilt about it. "Once you get past the lying, the rest is easy," is their philosophy. The kid, Graeme Frost, in one of his radio addresses, asked the question: "Why doesn't President Bush want children to have health care?" They send the kid out to lie. They filled this kid's head with lies just as they have some of these soldiers about me. Put lies in the kid's head or put it on the script that he's reading. He goes out and reads it. He's 12-years-old! They will use anybody! They'll corrupt anybody, to get where they're headed. That's who they are, folks. Thank you Rush

[SmootyBooty]

I sincerely hope you get your ass kicked by a dominican teenager your hero has buggered...

[reece5309]

if one does you will be paying my medical bills - how ya like that?

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

Here are the facts that the right-wing distorted in order to attack young Graeme:

1) Graeme has a scholarship to a private school. The school costs $15K a year, but the family only pays $500 a year.

2) His sister Gemma attends another private school to help her with the brain injuries that occurred due to her accident. The school costs $23,000 a year, but the state pays the entire cost.

3) They bought their “lavish house” sixteen years ago for $55,000 at a time when the neighborhood was less than safe.

4) Last year, the Frost’s made $45,000 combined. Over the past few years they have made no more than $50,000 combined.

5) The state of Maryland has found them eligible to participate in the CHIP program.

[ChicagoBob]

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

(It's not original, but it fits the above post.)

[CrimsonTom]

Which part is untrue, as you admit that President Bush doesn't want Graeme Frost to have healthcare?

[Birdman]

Got any facts to back up wha tyou said? Oh and Rush's Hannity's na dO'Reily's OPINIONS do not count you hav eto remeber talk radio is OPINION and it may not have any basis in fact. So got any FACTS not opinions to back up what you said?

[reece5309]

His response to Bush was actually recorded earlier in the week and Matthew Hay Brown, a reporter from The Baltimore Sun, interviewed the young man after he did his recording. Frost said his parents work hard to provide for him and his sister, but one thing they can't afford is private health insurance, so they have to depend upon the government program, Brown reported for The Sun. Perfect illustration of why the SCHIP program should be expanded, right? Actually, no, because the Sun only reported the Democratic version of the story and we can't depend upon a mainstream media outlet like the Sun to get the rest of the story." Well, the rest of the story is: "It turns out the Frost family sends its kids to one of Baltimore's expensive private schools, owns a house in a neighborhood of homes valued in the $400,000-500,000 range and bought commercial property in 1999 for $160,000." What's the upshot of all this? This is nothing new. The Democrats lie! They have to in order to make their case. What was seductive to them was that this young man and his sister were severely injured in an auto accident, and they didn't have private insurance. "That's all we needed. That's all. Just smear the president. That's all we needed. We don't need any other details, because we know that our buddies in the mainstream media are not going to uncover the details, and, if they do uncover 'em, they're not going to report 'em -- and when they do get uncovered a couple weeks later, a day later, the story is already ours. We already own it."

[SmootyBooty]

Druggie Limpballs speaks...
Then why did your "president" say he "looked forward to working with both houses" to get the program funded? Could that be a lie?

[conservativeoriginalist]

Nope....the program has existed for a decade already. The Democrats proposed an EXPANSION, which is what Bush vetoed, to the program, which already provides everything the Democrats are claiming doesn't exist.

[MajorKong]

It's funny how the conservatives are whipping themselves into a frenzy over a small-business owner who sends his kids to private school - both things that they would normally claim to support.

Obviously Frost's crime here was questioning Dear Leader.

[conservativeoriginalist]

The frenzy is the Democrats throwing a child on national radio under false pretenses to try to sell legislation that isn't what they claim while the family is obviously more than capable of providing for their own health insurance.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

Here are the facts that the right-wing distorted in order to attack young Graeme:

1) Graeme has a scholarship to a private school. The school costs $15K a year, but the family only pays $500 a year.

2) His sister Gemma attends another private school to help her with the brain injuries that occurred due to her accident. The school costs $23,000 a year, but the state pays the entire cost.

3) They bought their lavish house sixteen years ago for $55,000 at a time when the neighborhood was less than safe.

4) Last year, the Frost’s made $45,000 combined. Over the past few years they have made no more than $50,000 combined.

5) The state of Maryland has found them eligible to participate in the CHIP program.

[reece5309]

maryland has no asset test - mortgage payment of 1200.00 per month

[mae692]

Ever hear of a scholarship? Ever hear of the value of a home going up in 16 years? Ever hear of a mortgage? Or do you just repeat what you're told? I guess if you're not living in a cardbox and eating pigeons you not really needy.

If you've got a problem take it up with the state of Maryland, they're the ones that qualified the family for the program.

If government healthcare is good enough for Jenna and Barbara is good enough for Graeme.

[Janco54]

Typical of the Republicans. Trash a kid and his family. Very classy move guys. Keep up the great work on behalf of the American people. We won't forget your invaluable input come November '08.

[reece5309]

lib leach

[BreadandRoses]

You are so full of shit it's running down your chin.