Edwards Pans Clinton Cake Walk Talk: I Lived Through The Inevitability Of Howard Dean

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First Posted: 10- 8-07 07:21 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Democrat John Edwards tried to make light of Hillary Rodham Clinton's big lead in national polls Monday, saying that four years ago it looked as if Howard Dean might run away with the nomination.

Edwards, campaigning in the state that will hold leadoff caucuses in January, said his organization is much stronger than at this point in 2004 when he eventually won a surprise second-place finish.

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It was interesting to hear Pat Buchanan this weekend on The Mclaughlin Group saying (paraphrase) that the only hope if Rudi (who has angered religious conservatives) is nominated is that he goes up against Hillary Clinton.

Because Clinton has by far the best chance of uniting people in opposition to her.

I fear he's exactly right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 10/09/2007

As Americans wake on Friday morning, a shudder will stir and shock even Hillary Clinton...

Gore winning the Nobel Peace Prize will act as
a Political Tsunami, cleansing the field of both Democrats & Republicans and making the
way for real and true change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 10/09/2007

HILLARY WANTS HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS.
HILLARY WANTS TO GIVE A 5000.00 BONDS TO ALL BABIES.
HILLARY WANTS TO GIVE ALL AMERICANS A 401K PLAN.

I have said she would do or say anything to get elected.

Keep ion mind a lot of her support comes from less educated Americans. They see those headlines and say good I will vote for Hillary.

I believe that is what her campaign is counting on.

If Democrats are voting in 08 against Bush and the Iraq War, I cannot see how they would then chose Hillary Clinton as their nominee. She authorized the War and evidently did not learn from that mistake, because her recent vote on Iran could lead to another War.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 10/09/2007

Edwards has a point. There are no guarantees and it's still early.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 10/09/2007

If you really believe that there is a parallel between the Dean candidacy and Hillary's, you may a) have to get out of your naivette or b) stop being in denial and/or c) give up your desperation!

Edwards is done. His numbers vis-a-vis polls and contributions are dismal. His opting for public financing makes him a lame duck even if he miraculously reaches the General Election, and I don't think any such miracle will happen!

So, between advice from that cat guy and Trippi, all he can do is moan about Hillary ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 10/09/2007

You are reading an awful lot in to my post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 10/09/2007


As I reflect on what has been represented as an inevitable candidacy of a corporate shill, I wonder what will become of this country of ours, historically dependent upon a solid middle class, where the gap between rich and poor is ever expanding, where excessive fear of terrorism has resulted in our constitutional rights being abridged, where investigative journalism has given way to propaganda, where the education system and environment are in shambles, and where the Congress and Supreme Court have become extensions of the executive branch, abandoning their constiutional duties. What will become of our beloved country? And unfortunately as we subordinate government to business and democracy to capitalism, we lose what were the fundamental ingredients of our historical success.

I invite all of you to re examine the candidate of ideas, John Edwards. He is the candidate with the best proposals on the environment and health care. The candidate who speaks up for all Americans. The candidate who leads with new ideas and has the courage to fight against those with vested economic interests. He is also the candidate with the fewest negatives and most likely to prevail in the general election.

I am confident that the good people of Iowa can see through the phony candidacy of a derivative Democrat with a campaign staff composed of scoundrels reminiscent of those who work in the administration we all want so desperately to replace. I am glad she is lightening up. I even like her cackle and rhetoric. But in the final analysis we are electing a leader, not a slick and packaged politician without a moral compass or who is frightened of the being called a liberal.

Her enormous war chest comes from Republicans who want her to be the candidate of the Democratic party. They know how vulnerable she is in the general election, but should she prevail, they know she stands for the status quo. John Edwards is the candidate of fundamental change and innovative ideas. He has the vision, courage and integrity to lead. HRC has rhetoric and money. The choice is that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 10/09/2007

As I reflect on what has been represented as an inevitable candidacy of a corporate shill, I wonder what will become of this country of ours, historically dependent upon a solid middle class, where the gap between rich and poor is ever expanding, where excessive fear of terrorism has resulted in our constitutional rights being abridged, where investigative journalism has given way to propaganda, where the education system and environment are in shambles, and where the Congress and Supreme Court have become extensions of the executive branch, abandoning their constiutional duties. Is the good and noble America gone forever? And unfortunately as we subordinate government to business, democracy to capitalism, we lose what were the fundamental ingredients of our historical success.

I invite all of you to re examine the candidate of ideas, John Edwards. He is the candidate with the best proposals on the environment and health care. The candidate who speaks up for the least among us. The candidate who leads with new ideas and has the courage to fight against those with vested economic interests. He is also the candidate with the fewest negatives and the most likely to prevailk in the general election.

I am confident that the good people of Iowa can see through this phony candidacy of a derivative Democrat with a campaign staff compoused of scoundrels reminiscent of the reminiscent composed of scoundrels of the administration we all want so desperately to replace. I am glad she is lightening up, and I even like her cackle and rhetoric. But in the final analysis we are electing a leader, not a slick and packaged politician without a moral compass or real Democratic credentials.

Her enormous war chest comes from Republicans who want her to be the candidate of the Democratic party. They know how vulnerable she is in the general election, but even if she wins, they know something else: she is not the candidate of fundamental change and innovative ideas. John Edwards has vision, courage and integrity. The qualities of a leader. HRC has rhetoric and money. The choice is that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 10/09/2007

Hillary "Barry 'racist jEW' Goldwater girl" Clinton, is the jEWS candidate. Her staff is jEW from Wolfson to the stealing jEW Sandy Berger. She promised her jEWS a war with Iran for the Iranians president's denial of the jEW hoax called a holocaust.

Hillary "Keep African-Americans in their place with jim crow laws, except if they vote for her" Clinton has always been a jEW minion. A vote for her is a vote for all things jEW, especially illegal and immoral wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 10/09/2007

just another open minded tolerant jew hating liberal.

yes it's the right who hates.
who you kidding lefties?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 10/09/2007
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Wow, you make all these comments and not one person is brave enough to say you even have a problem with a certain religious group.

But I can make a comment disagreeing with a certain country, and suddenly i'm called a racist, anti-semitic, and anything else you can imagine.

I can see now that I've been going about it the wrong way. ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 10/09/2007

every day I am more glad that John Edwards is my candidate-I would vote for him EVEN if Gore were in the race-his interest in helping average Americans is PALPABLE-neither Obama nor Hillary have any original ideas that they are passionate about-Obama is for dismantling nukes yet supports nuclear power plants-that just doesn't make sense-they are the SAME thing-Edwards understands this because he has STUDIED the issues and gets it-He does NOT support nuclear power because it endangers ALL OF MANKIND-we should be in the Hydrogen Age by now-it is clean, cheap and plentiful, just what you want in an energy source-the new ideas will come from someone like Edwards who is a true progressive, not a phony one like the others-and as every poll shows HE BEATS EVERY REPUBLICAN SOUNDLY, not even close-if he is the candidate it won't be another election that can be stolen because it won't be close.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 10/09/2007

I don't like pollsters telling me who everyone else wants to vote for. They should just shut up and let us all make up our own minds based on the candidates stances on the issues. What's the word for that? I think it starts with a D -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 10/09/2007

From his $400 haircut and facial at the Pink Sapphire to his "poverty tour" Edwards is the most phony, lightweight presidential candidate I have ever seen.

I know there are some people who buy his "two America's" and "my dad was a millworker" stuff, but thankfully not enough for him to ever get near the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 10/09/2007

Yeah, totally!

Like you, I prefer to mock presidents based on exaggerated 10 second sound bites and non-substantive stories rather than criticize their actual policy proposals.

Oh wait...never mind.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 10/09/2007

To be fair, Edwards is not that phony. It's not like he was raised in Connecticut by one of the nation's wealthiest families, attended the best East coast prep school and Ivies, spent years living teh hedonistic life of a drug and drink addicted ttrust fund baby, dodging even service in teh national guard and then pretended to find "de jebus", went through voice training to effect a fake Texan drawl and bought a ranch in Crawford and pretended to be a cowboy just to sucker the stupid and gullible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 10/09/2007

democrats should wake up Edwards and not blow it again in 2008 Edwards is the sure winner in the democratic race

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 10/09/2007

Hillary has been successful because she has been so good at posing as a strong leader. She is confident and knows her facts but the irony is that she has had 7 years to show some leadership but has only been a follower. She has followed GWB's disastrous foreign policy in the middle east lock step. There really has been no difference. She hasn't shown any any leadership against the GOP assault on civil liberties and the constitution.

If only Edwards would go after Hillary's strength - her being seen as a strong leader - and point out the truth that she has only been a GOP follower and has been afraid to fight the GOP for 7 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 10/09/2007

LOVE Edwards, but he's got this one wrong, sorry to say. The same dirty tricks people that sank Dean in Iowa in 2004 will be brought in again by the Clinton campaign to finish off the competition once and for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 10/09/2007

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HILLARY = BIG MONEYS WHORE
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 10/09/2007

If you cant post without being a reactive potty mouth jerk no one will take you seriously and everyone will thing you are a glue sniffing college student.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 10/09/2007

It's true.

He/She should have instead pointed out that Hillary having raised the most money is a NEGATIVE, not a positive.

Of course with the way the media paints it, you'd think whoever raises the most money is not only the person that *will* will the nomination but also the person that *should* win the nomination.

To me, it just means she'll be the candidate most beholden to special interests.

How can anyone see that she has received more money from the healthcare industry than ANY other candidate (including republicans) and still take her seriously on healthcare reform?

As for people not taking Edwards seriously because he's not dirt-poor, that's just ridiculous.

People seem to forget that FDR was RICH (he had a good deal more money than John Edwards currently has in fact), yet he was the most progressive president in modern history.

The fact is, NONE of the *major* candidates are hurting for money, and whether or not they spend $400 on a haircut or some caviar, I don't care.

I care about the quality of their ideas and the desire to implement them once in office.

PS---It's funny how some people rip on Edwards brining up the fact that he comes from a humble background. Yet they also rip the fact that he now has money and spends it. It's almost as if he'd be SCREWED either way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 10/09/2007

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Hillary Clinton = NAFTA, CAFTA, the destruction of Americas job base..

Hillary Clinton = gave George W. Bush the authority to attack Iraq and kill our soldiers and waste our treasure..

Hillary Clinton = gave George W. Bush the authority to attack Iran and start another failed attack on yet another country that has done zero to attack America..

Hillary Clinton = her health care plan is to force EVERY American to hand our paychecks over to Insurance Companies..
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 10/09/2007
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