Two Months After Vow To Reign In NSA, Dem Concessions On Wiretapping Expected

New York Times:

Two months after vowing to roll back broad new wiretapping powers won by the Bush administration, Congressional Democrats appear ready to make concessions that could extend some of the key powers granted to the National Security Agency.

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Comments

[nunzia]

Since this is the NYT, and I'd have to register at their site to read the whole article, I don't trust the headline. It is, after all,the paper of Judith Miller's lies.

[Mutineer]

OK, here's the Cliff's Notes version: The Democrats are pu**ies who are afraid of looking weak on terror (whatever that means). So they're going to give George everything he's asked for and are even considering immunity for the telecommunications companies who are in bed with the government.

[Conservativeslayer]

I am not registered at NYT and was able to read the entire article. Did you even try to click on the link?

[BUSHLICKER07]

It is obviously a question of leadership in the Democratic Party that is the problem. There needs to be a revolt because Reid and Pelosi are incompotent bafoons. They lack the balls to fight like the Repugs did the past 12 years. We
need strong advocates for Democratic principles. Play these punks on the right with their own game, communicate with one strong voice. Unfortunetly, there are dozens of Conservative Democrats that will fight because they feel the need to please their voters.

[ProfessorDuh]

America now stands for torture, secret prisons, spying on its citizens, permanent military occupations and no-bid mercenaries who murder innocent people at random on the street. This state of affairs has been eagerly sought by the fascist Republicans and fearfully acquiesced to by the cowardly Democrats. This is an America of frightened children who will submit to any horror, as long as it is accompanied by false promises of safety. This is America the sickening. The heroes who founded this country would spit on us — and should.

[gsuescum]

I am getting more and more pissed off by the day. Those fu**ing Dems are a bunch of spineless sh*ts! Why won't they stand up to the most unpopular president in the history of this nation! If they don't get moving soon I am never voting for a Democrat again.

[paixa3]

I agree, but who in the fuck do we have to vote for?

[MetalCanuck]

Ron Paul...per­iod.

[naschkatze]

We will have someone not of these two parties to vote for as president, and as for Congress, vote third party or independent, vote against any incumbent in the primaries, or write-in campaign. Get all the outsiders in your state united against the common foe. Here in Oregon we have an Independent running for Sen. Gordon Smith's senate seat. Just don't stay at home and not vote because one of these two fascist parties will eke out a win.

[freespeach]

paixa3

http://www.gp.org/

[HBeachbum]

The Dems aren't standing up to Jimmy Carter?

[foolme1ns]

Leave it to the weak kneed, spineless dems to pull defeat out of the mouth of victory once again.

I hate the bastards. I will not be voting for them in the next election.

The lesser of two evils, is still evil and I will not give anyone permission to take away my constitutionsl rights. Screw them. They are worse than the republicans.

[paixa3]

I will waste my vote on myself before I will waste it on Dems or Rethugs.

[Rand]

They STILL just don't feckin' get it!

[AgeofReason]

No Kidding!

“Many members continue to fear that if they don’t support whatever the president asks for, they’ll be perceived as soft on terrorism,” said William Banks, a professor specializing in terrorism and national security law at Syracuse University

Don't Democrats see that when they give the President whatever he wants without question, they are seen as soft on spine? This is about standing up for the principles of American Democracy. This administration is EVIL, and the Congress is abetting evil by allowing these thefts of our civil liberties. Can the administration prove that these violations of civil liberties have stopped one act of terrorism? They don't even try! Can they prove that they haven't violated any individual citizen's rights? Again, they don't even try!

Get a clue Congress! We want you to stand up for our civil liberties! Stop legalizing illegal wiretapping!

[AgeofReason]

The quote should read, "Many members continue to fear that if they don't support whatever the president asks for, they'll be perceived as soft on terrorism.­"

[ceasenake]

You mean after all the rhetoric the Dems are going to support the wiretaps after all?

I want to hear Bruce Springsteens take on this one!

[FishOrCutBait]

Where's the story about Obama's religious awakening, Huffpo?

Talk about coming out of the closet. What gives him the right to talk about God?? Every time the right talks about religion the shit hits the fan with the left.

Can Obama deliver that Kingdom on Earth?

[naschkatze]

No, he can't, but he'd better well vote this time, and vote against. He can't remain the innocent bystander.

[syllepsis]

The Dem Presidential candidates will vote against, knowing that Democratic primary voters won't tolerate this.
I hope the party destroys itself over this. Hillary's and Obama's vote means nothing, if Pelosi has already agreed to betray everything the party stands for.
I suggest that people sign up for third parties in droves, and leave the Democrats with only Republicans to vote for them.

[957]

We might as well just elect another republican for the democrates are just pissing the election away, are these airhead the best the dems can come up with?

[Veri]

Electing a Republican or Democrat will not solve the problem. Why do Democrats regularly give the President whatever he asks for in this phony "war on terror"?

Because there is no difference, aside from minor policy issues like minimum wage, between the two. Huh?

Both parties, at the highest levels, know abortion is here to stay. The lower ranks of the Republican party rally the troops using abortion to "get out the vote". But what about minimum wage?

Minimum wage increase gives the Federal governnment more tax dollars. Add to that an increase in Social Security taxes that both parties regularly loot to fund pet projects.

Listen people, both parties are really one party. The Party of Property. And this party considers you their property.

[freespeach]

agreed Veri

I think the emotions of frustration, anger, disappointment and fear all drive people to grasp at something they can believe in. Like a drowning man reaching reaching without thinking.

People who believe the Democrats will save this country in 08 are acting in an irrational manner, not thinking or seeing clearly. I don't really blame them because I was the same way for the longest time. But the continuous war funding, refusal to impeach and this FISA bill crime against Americans is the ugly proof that none of us really want to see. But still, here it is.

I urge all here to visit this site with an open mind and make some serious changes. Yes the DLC trolls will tell you lots of reasons why these people can't win, but none of that changes the FACT that the DLC killed the once great Democratic party and to give them your vote, support or money is insanity.

Make a move.

http://www.gp.org/

Peace.

[vippy]

Vote 3rd party and be done with that. Send
the DEMS a message for their compliance with the GOP.

[naschkatze]

Yippy for vippy! Go over to the Raw Story and read their thread on this same story. It's very encouraging.

[partyofone]

No incumbents re-elected in 2008 from either party. Every person now serving in Congress is either corrupt, complicite or incompent. Democrats should be challenging every incumbent Democrat Representative or Senator up for re-election in the 2008 Democratic primary.

We currently live in a dictatorship that Congress has to happen. There is no checks and balance of the Bush Administration by Congress or the Judiculary. He has trashed the Constitution and international law. WE NEED A CONGRESS WHO RESPONDS TO THE PEOPLE, not to the coporations who are making windfall profits on Bush's corruption with the help of Congress: banks, healthcare and drug compaients, oil companies, defense contractors, WalMart and other importers of inferior/u­nsafe/unin­spected/ dangerous Chinese imports.

The people spoke loudly in 2006, and Congress has ignored us. Kick the bums out.

[syllepsis]

The poor hapless frightened Dems, more afraid of offending Republican sensibilities than of breaking the law.
All they are interested in is appeasing the Republican business interests, and the nonexistent Republican electoral majority. They won't end the war, and they won't defend the Constitution's crystal clear prohibition against ex post facto legalization of crimes.
The Bush Administration would be out of power now, if not for ceaseless Dem enabling.
And the Democrats don't want your votes, but they'll get them anyway. Just remember, they have the same opinion of the Constitution as the Republicans they claim to oppose.

[scottymac11]

these guys are paid for by the same people. Why do we really expect there to be a difference between them?

[ExRepublican]

bingo.

[VictorLudorum]

I hate ingratitude more in a man
than lying, vainness, babbling, drunkenness,
or any taint of vice whose strong corruption
inhabits our frail blood.

William Shakespeare

[Waitaminute]

Didn't they take over the department of justice and all the other departments?

Didn't the supreme court put this fool in office unconstitutionally?

Didn't they out a cia agent in the time of war. Has anybody paid for it? Nope!!

They fired the 8 republican attorneys, was anything done about it? Nope!

They torture, orders from the top. What? nothing done about it right? Nope!!

They took away habeus corpus. Has anything been done about it? Nope!

Are billions (12 and counting) of dollar sent over wrapped in plastic, Missing. Has anything been done about it? Nope!

They wiretap, has anything been done about it? So why wouldn't they wiretap the politicians. Nobody will do anything about it. RIGHT?

[Waitaminute]

It is up to us. The dems and many more of our politicians are being blackmailed or under threat to follow lockstep or else!!!

I have followed some of these dems for a long time, and its appear totally out of character the way they have been acting since 2000.

These traitors stole two or three elections and they did 9-11. Make no misake about it. They will do anything.

[Veri]

Yep, The Party of Property (Democrats and Republicans) are an evil bunch. About those elections.­..

We have two extreme wings of one party. See above. How can your party steal an election if your guy won the vote? Oh, sure, the Republican wing of your party did not get their candidate elected. So what? The point is, your party wins no matter what.

The Democratic wing is not being blackmailed. They are just following the script prepared for them. Dissent without dissent. War is Peace. Peace is War. Just had to throw some Orwell in here somewhere.

Rant incoming. And if someone is going to blame the Jews one more freakin' time! What the hell are you talking about! You probably voted for George Bush six times! You know, George Bush, the President, your Messiah? How is your Messiah being controlled by the Jews?

Or is it that your Messiah has not awarded you a fat contract from the Federal Government? Did you just realized that there is no place for you among the top 0.1% of the American Dream.

[SmolderingRuin]

Two Months After Vow To Reign In NSA, Dem Concessions On Wiretapping Expected

Good Lord, you mean REIN in. Puleeze.

[Ramirez]

HuffPo Headline Writer:

Homonyms are not your friend.

[syllepsis]

True, let's hope someone else notices.