Two Months After Vow To Reign In NSA, Dem Concessions On Wiretapping Expected

New York Times:

Two months after vowing to roll back broad new wiretapping powers won by the Bush administration, Congressional Democrats appear ready to make concessions that could extend some of the key powers granted to the National Security Agency.

Read the whole story: New York Times

Comments

[Zentomato]

Simply spoken, maybe it is time for another American revolution. Certainly the Dems that we elected realize just what the Nov 06 mandate meant but yet they cowtow to Bush and the Repugs. Enough is enough. Throw these Rebups and Dems out of office! Most of them are owned by corporations as it is. Shit can their greedy arses.

[loki]

I'll second that.

[olivia]

Democratic primary challenges. Start now.

[naschkatze]

Or if there are no challengers, as there often are not, third party. BTW, the 2006 election may have been a watershed election in a sense that no one realized at the time.

[rektruax]

While I would agree normally, the general rule has always been that a violent revolution has only left dictators (of a different stripe) in charge, and non-violent ones have only left.... dictators in charge.

It's too late, and probably wouldn't do any good anyway. Sorry, but thanks for playing...

[Veri]

Revolution? I would go the voter revolution route. However, there are just too many Party voters in America right now. The Christians wanting to seize America and establish the Christasrael homeland by dispossessing others of their property.

I do not know what the extreme left wing wants. No one knows what those nuts want. At least we know what the extreme right wing nuts want. Better organized those righties.

Violence should be the last resort.

Finally, if you do not vote, don't complain about the system. No vote, no voice. I vote.

[Waitaminute]

The best places to protest are at news network headquarters. Forget about washington, who cares if we protest in protest free zones. Out of sight out of mind.

Bring the protest to the organizations who pretend the we don't exist. They are the force behind the neo-cons. We have to force the news down their throats.

All gathering points for protest should be at news organizations.

[loki]

I think that would be a great idea, but the news organizations would just ignore it. They dont have to look outside, or report on it.
They only report what will further their agenda.

[Waitaminute]

Shake the building. SHAKE THE TOWERS

[coyote4]

Remember those illegal wiretaps?

They were used to gather Intel, that is used to blackmail the current crop of Dems.

Blackmail, coercion, and fat envelopes passed surreptitiously is the American political way.

Honeypots,
gay trysts,
and dig-dig-dig-for-dirt!

I told you years ago:
10,000 protesters daily at the White House gates............
..........................................................no one showed

....................................yet everyone blames the politicians for OUR PROBLEMS !!! Take responsibility for the America you and me, my mom, your dad, our children.............what WE CREATED.

.

repent
.

[LibsRHilarious]

For all their bullshit, Rats don't want to escape collapsing buildings by jumping anymore that real Americans do. They just need to pretend they are "shocked" by Bush's tactics which keep them safe.

[coyote4]

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As long as us 'American Rats' -- as you say -- are still pretending up to election day..

[Waitaminute]

I am sure, you are correct about the blackmail. How else do we explain the dems self destructing. Why would they destroy their careers in government, by following lockstep with a so-call president, with what i think is an approval rating, much less than 29% the sold out msm gives him. There is no way a crooked administration, like this one didn't use their wiretaping on the politicians. What else explain their cockiness and arrogance, in the face of all the low down dirty things they have done.

Hell, the idiot can seldom find a crowd to speak in front of. Most times, its in front of a captured military..The dems appear scared to death.

[coyote4]

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How do we free our politicians from political coercion?.

[ExRepublican]

get rid of the fucking spaces Coyote. Common damn sense.

[Veri]

You cannot blackmail the willing.

[naschkatze]

You have a good point. The Democrats certainly are behaving as if they're being blackmailed.

[naschkatze]

Hate to talk to myself, but if that is the case, maybe they are being blackmailed into losing the 2008 election. Possible?

[loki]

I wonder what the loyalist of democratic Under Ground dot com are saying about this. They ban anyone for saying anything negative about a democrat (the democratic name sure doesnt mean they are democratic, that is for sure, they more fascism)
Nothing will change as long as people kiss arse and support a group no matter what. Sometimes that group is just wrong, and is to pumped up with power to care. In this case, we have 2 groups that are only thinking about their own greed and power. As long as we support them, thing will continue on the train wreck rails.

The hardest part will be finding a 3rd party that isnt a created front for the Capitalist and War Pigs. You cant believe a word anyone tells you in politics, I think the Democrats have proven that.

[ExRepublican]

"Nothing will change as long as people kiss arse and support a group no matter what."

You've just described 88.5% of the population.

Welcome to reality.

Stick around and read SOME (actually many) posts that'll make you look like a genius. Some/many will stick by dems as some FRN's STILL stick with (to) Pretzelnut *ush.

[kevenseven]

Who is your congressman? Who are your senators?

How many times have you told them your views on this?

How many letters have you written?

Phone calls?

Hmmm? I'm supposed to believe you?

[ExRepublican]

I love you but

won't/doesn't work.

Period. That should be obvious by now?

Analogy: Throw 3,000 prayers at the problem and that will solve it.

Nope. Never has. Never will.

Same deal here. It's called......reality. Reality is a bitch......but can be dealt with if most stay realistic/factual/honest.

[ResistWars]

Does anyone support US troops enough to stop Bush?


(Some Huffpo commenters indicate they have no compunction against killing innocent Iranians but claim they =support the troops.= If they really support the troops, they will get them out of the Middle East.)


=At present, the B61-11 [nuclear bomb] is slated for use in war theaters together with conventional weapons.

=If it were to be launched against Iran, it would result in radioactive contamination over a large part of the Middle East - Central Asian region, resulting in tens of thousands of deaths, INCLUDING US TROOPS STATIONED IN IRAQ. [Emphasis added]

=The use of any nuclear weapon capable of destroying a buried target that is otherwise immune to conventional attack will necessarily produce enormous numbers of civilian casualties. No earth-burrowing missile can penetrate deep enough into the earth to contain an explosion with a nuclear yield [of a low yield B61-11] even as small as 1 percent of the 15 kiloton Hiroshima weapon. The explosion simply blows out a massive crater of radioactive dirt, which rains down on the local region with an especially intense and deadly fallout.= (Low-Yield Earth-Penetrating Nuclear Weapons, by Robert W. Nelson)

--Michel Chossudovsky, The Dangers of a Middle East Nuclear War: New Pentagon Doctrine: Mini-Nukes are =Safe for the Surrounding Civilian Population=

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060217&articleId=1988

And don´t forget that the radioactive dust would disperse throughout the global atmosphere. In their zeal to poison others, the warmongers would also poison themselves.

[MI6troll]

Using your resistwars sockpuppet tonight, ghosts?

ghosts is a fan of EtJ. EtJ posts links to white supremacist anti-Semitic websites run by neo-Nazi Alex Linder.

ghosts is a fan of NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL. Nomore posts links to the David Duke website.

ghosts is a fan of countdowntoimpeachment who last night called gays satanists for trying to dilute "the race" (white supremacist code words.)

ghosts is a fan of every spammer who has clogged these pages-Mary12, Edward35, wars4profit, etc.

ghosts can GFH.

[Rockwell]

Cowards. We worked so hard to get the majority back in 06 and we get these stinking, gutless cowards. Christ, if they can't stand up to a bottomed out loser like W, what the hell will they stand for?

There are a few good ones like Feingold but the rest of them are just republican lite.

[kevenseven]

Who is your congressman? Who are your senators?

How many times have you told them your views on this?

How many letters have you written?

Phone calls?

Hmmm? What do you stand for?

[gsuescum]

Schumer and Clinton are mine and they've done very little lately. I send plenty of emails and make plenty of calls and they still suck.

[freespeach]

kevenseven wants you to think that your voice actually matters to these corporate whores masquerading as Democrats.

Want your voice to be heard?

http://www.gp.org/

[Veri]

No, they are not cowards. Just The Party of Property with a Democratic label much like the Republicans belong to The Party of Property.

You are their property, or so they fantasize. Just how close to reality is this statement? Well, total up the percentage of the population who votes Democrat. Add this to the percentage of voters who vote for Republicans. That is how much you, as property, they own.

Back to work wage-slaves! Work to get the American Dream of belonging to the top 0.1% of money-whores in America.

[loki]

I really hate to say this, but

told ya so
told ya so
told ya told ya told ya so

I, like many of you, were fooled by Dumocrats into thinking they were going to do whatever they could to stop the republicans, Bush , and the War Pig machine now controlling DC.
But all they really wanted was to be positioned for the big bucks!!! Ah, the pay offs to come for their loyal dedication will be huge!!
Pelosi and Reid have totally lost what little reputation they had. This is 3 big folds in a row.
War Funding
Pariot Act
And now Wire Tap..

I guess next month we should expect the repeal of any remaining freedoms we have left.

Thank you Democrats, for showing us your no better than the Republicans!! To bad we found out to late though.

[ExRepublican]

Welcome to reality?

Help those that can turn around and help others. Go out of your way to do this.

Ignore/screw/f*ck the rest.

This is life in America. Hopefully it'll change in a few dozen years.

[Mutineer]

The chimp has them hypnotized. It's the only explanation.

[naschkatze]

Blackmailed.

[MissingAmerica]

It's appalling that the Democrats are going to make concessions to a President working outside the Constitution to expand the scope of an illegal program. Is there something wrong with this picture, or is it just me?

[kevenseven]

Who is your congressman? Who are your senators?

How many times have you told them your views on this?

How many letters have you written?

Phone calls?

Hmmm? Is there something wrong here, or is it just me?

[freespeach]

kevenseven wants you to think that your voice actually matters to these corporate whores masquerading as Democrats.

Want your voice to be heard?

http://www.gp.org/

[Waitaminute]

They are bushes enablers. Republican and dems are working together.

[LIR]

If they make concessions, they must be held to account in next election.

[EvSmith]

One party Government. It's called the Government.

It is the Government, the Military, the Police, the multi-national corporations and industrial giants, and AIPAC vs. the people of this country.
Them vs. us. Us being the U.S.

Unchecked spying. This is an intimidation tactic used against ones political and legal enemies.

Many corrupt governments have used this means of harrasment against their own domestic enemies and opposition rivals. Rampant corruption leads to spying.

I don't care if they pass this through congress and get it signed into law or not.
It is illegal and unconstituional. Fundamentally so.
It is not an option for our elected representatives to destroy any part of the constitution in order to grant themselves or others immunity from prosecution where federal and international(torture) crimes have been commited.

This likely going to end up before the swing vote on the nations highest court.

[Waitaminute]

They voted for the liebermann/kyl bill to label the Iranian guards, terrorist to creat the pretence to start a war with Iran.

[Waitaminute]

Dems did not fight to investigate the voter fraud in 2000. Not one of them stood up.

Dems voted for the invasion of Irag.

They voted for the patriot act, twice.

They voted for the funding of the invasion many times.

They voted for the wiretaping.Gave bush more then he asked for.

They didn't standup and investigate the election fraud in 2004.

They have not done a thing in trying to end the invasion.

They voted against moveon.org betray us ad.

They haven't don't a thing about the voting machines. Now the primaries are a few months away.

They took impeachment off the table.

They didn't filabuster any of the supreme court nominees.

They allowed the bill to eliminate habeus corpus.

They allowed every bill bush wanted to come out of committee.

[kevenseven]

Who is your congressman? Who are your senators?

How many times have you told them your views on this?

How many letters have you written?

Phone calls?

Hmmm? What have you done?

[freespeach]

kevenseven wants you to think that your voice actually matters to these corporate whores masquerading as Democrats.

Want your voice to be heard?

http://www.gp.org/

[FunMe]

Once again, the Dems prove that they are ROLL OVER Democrats!

Time to get rid of all the DINOs,Cowards, and pussies that have infiltrated OUR party. They should be outed next year and replaced with true progressives and liberals!

[kevenseven]

Who is your congressman? Who are your senators?

How many times have you told them your views on this?

How many letters have you written?

Phone calls?

Hmmm? Who's the pussy?

[freespeach]

kevenseven wants you to think that your voice actually matters to these corporate whores masquerading as Democrats.

Want your voice to be heard?

http://www.gp.org/