Two Months After Vow To Reign In NSA, Dem Concessions On Wiretapping Expected

New York Times:

Two months after vowing to roll back broad new wiretapping powers won by the Bush administration, Congressional Democrats appear ready to make concessions that could extend some of the key powers granted to the National Security Agency.

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Comments

[Where is Jesus?]

Good God! Here we go again. I almost let fly a foul tirade about these weak-minded, weak-willed Democrats. If I said what I was really thinking, I would probably be banned for life from HuffPo! Seriously, we are being sold out by the people we elected to get the job done and to stand up against this bastard brat Bush.

They are so afraid of being branded as weak on terror by the rupukelicans that they are actually willing to tuck their tails between their legs and wimper off. Now is the time for all good men and women in congress to rise up in defense of our constitution. Grow some damned ball, for god's sake!

If you can't defend the constitution and the people who gave you your seat at the table when we are being assaulted by these evil people, then how would you perform if we really were attacked by some outside force? If Bush is not a terrorist threat to our nation then who is?

Frankly, I tend to agree with the Repukes: the Dems are a bunch of pussies when it comes to terrorism. Dems have failed the test to stand up to tyranny and for that they should be kicked out of office until we can find some real patriots with real conviction to protect our nation. I am ashamed to say that I was ever a Democrat. No more. I will vote as an independent and I will do everything I can to get these impostors out of office!

[kevenseven]

Who is your congressman? Who are your senators?

How many times have you told them your views on this?

How many letters have you written?

Phone calls?

Hmmm? Who's the pussy?

[HumeSkeptic]

Frankly, I tend to agree with the Repukes: the Dems are a bunch of pussies when it comes to terrorism-Where is Jesus?


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Oh yeah? Then let me see you defend this stellar record of your "terrist" fighters:





BUSH-CHENEY ACCOMPLISHMENTS AFTER SIX YEARS IN OFFICE

TOPIC: NATIONAL SECURITY

- Half a TRILLION spent.

-TENS of thousand US soldiers killed and wounded.

- HUNDREDS of thousands civilians KILLED and wounded.

- MORE terrorists now than on 9/11.

-TALIBAN as strong as ever.

-FOUR Iraqi provinces under control of Iran-friendy militias.


How can Republican supporters possibly defend this clusterfuck?


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The fact is the Republicans have benefited from terrorism. The fact is that their "warrenterra" is nothing but a fraud.

The fact is that Republicans would like nothing better than for Americans to live under terror forever.

Why do you think Giuliani can't say a single sentence without 9/11?

[BufoAmericanus]

Gee, Democrats or Republicans?

As a liberal, one party hates me and has waged a thirty year war against liberals, while Democrats wouldn't stand up for their own mother or the Constituti­on... Much less the liberals.

Would you rather burn at the stake or die of exposure?

It's fun hearing how liberalism failed, while these boobs of the rotting corpse of conservatism bicker with the "thrid wayers" about how succesfull their programs are though.

While liberals were "moral relativists," these guys are just spineless, lying sacks of shit.

[otispfudpucker]

WELCOME to corporate america, this has always been the plan. The more they control, the more they control us.

[RebelPatriot]

It's the scenario depicted in the movie - They Live , without the aliens.

[leftLibertarian]

Last time I looked, there were more than two political parties.

[naschkatze]

It's politically incorrect to say this over at FireDogLake, but I can still say it here: a pox on both your houses.

[aznurse]

disgust

[Steamboater]

Again the democrats have caved in and they'll cave in to on the child healthcare bill. You just can't believe anything they say any more. What a crock of sh*t they are.

[kevenseven]

Who is your congressman? Who are your senators?

How many times have you told them your views on this?

How many letters have you written?

Phone calls?

Hmmm? Who is full of shit?

[OneVoiceInACrowd]

Papers Please - show me your papers!

[Graywolf48]

What can you expect from this crop of Democrats who live in fear of losing their "phony baloney jobs" as so poignantly pointed out by Mel Brooks in "Blazing Saddles"? Cowards almost one and all. Just another good reason to vote them all out of office as soon as possible.

Reid/Pelosi, what a useless duo. Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber. This Congress has abrogated all its power to our unitary executive and now are just wards of the State, collecting a paycheck and producing nothing.

[DarrowFan]

Hear! Hear!

[hugs4u]

If people in the senate and house are going to screw the people, it should be by the professionals. The repukeicans need to do it.

[hugs4u]

I am a democrat but the democrats in office need to be voted out. They have no guts or backbone and as such they don't deserve to be in the Senate and House.

[naschkatze]

If you want to remain a Democrat, fine, but let's at least have a schism and divorce ourselves from the DLC. How about a Democratic Labour Party?

[thgy]

HOW DARE THEY! How dare they give away our constitutionally guaranteed rights?
Someone needs to channel Thomas Jefferson to lead the people in a popular uprising to impeach them all.

[DarrowFan]

When you channel Thomas Jefferson, are you going to channel his slaves too? He may not be able to help us if he doesn't have free, exploited labor nearby to take care of the rest. Yes, let's channel Thomas Jefferson. It's so much better than channeling, say, Harriet Tubman or Ghandi. I won't deny that old Jeff did lots of great things, but, ouch, he owned other human beings, and that kind of makes him NOT the best person to channel, in my book. But a bad-ass woman-warr­ior-activi­st like Ms. Tubman? Channel her, if you please.

Harriet Tubman (from Wikipedia): During the American Civil War, she was responsible for several roles such as intelligence gatherer, refugee organizer, raid leader, nurse, and fund-raiser. Tubman was the first African-American woman to plan and lead a military operation. She prided herself in never losing a passenger on the underground railroad, and never being captured.

Ghandi (from Wikipedia): As a British-educated lawyer, Gandhi first employed his ideas of peaceful civil disobedience in the Indian community's struggle for civil rights in South Africa. Upon his return to India, he organized poor farmers and labourers to protest against oppressive taxation and widespread discrimination. Assuming leadership of the Indian National Congress, Gandhi led nationwide campaigns for the alleviation of poverty, for the liberation of women, for brotherhood amongst differing religions and ethnicities, for an end to untouchability and caste discrimination, and for the economic self-sufficiency of the nation, but above all for Swaraj—the independence of India from foreign domination.

Do I think Jefferson is rolling over in his grave? Yes! And I'm right with you on knowing he'd want to see these fools impeached!

[thgy]

Yes, Harriet Tubman, Gandhi.
There was a woman labor activist in Chicago during the Hay Market Riot, she was a freed slave and an anarchist. Don't know her name, or anythng much else about but add her to your list.

[freeloader]

Hey nut job, I"m guessing if you lived in those times you'd be completely satisfied doing all of the work yourself.
Look idiot, slaves of that time were more or less looked at as machinery. Now do you go out and kick your tractors motor and expect it to perform dutily, no. Was it wrong owning another person, yes, Was it wrong then, no, and quite sure if you lived in those times, you'd owned a plantation. T. Jefferson at least had the foresight of knowing that all of Gods people were created equal. How we got around too proving it was another matter.

[SmellyOne]

Baaaaaaaaa­a....

Baaaaa...

Baaaaaaaaa­aaaa...


HuffBots = Sheep


Why aren't you people protesting in the streets?

Cowards.

[abbiehoffmansghost]

Cowards? I'm sorry you must be thinking of RightWingNews. Check that site for all cowardly racists like yourself.

[SmellyOne]

Racist?

Where does that come from? What makes me racist?

You throw stones, yet you're missing the target.

Why aren't you protesting in the streets?

Why aren't these pages filled with calls to action to stop the out-of-control Repubs and the do-nothing Dems?

You use the name of abbie hoffman, but he would be embarrassed by the HuffBots who do NOTHING to stop the U.S. involvement in Iraq, except BITCH on these pages.

And when the Dems are proven to be liars, "oh well". Sheep.

You're just as bad as the cons who sat by and let Bushie and his boys run our military into the ground.

[frost]

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ARE YOU FUCKING SURPRISED.­.

THE DEMOCRATS ARE COWARDS..

CHICKENSHIT COWARDS..

GUTLESS WHINING PIECE OF SHIT COWARDS..
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[hugs4u]

Pelosi and reid need their ass kicked out of office.

[oldgringo]

What we have learned to expect from the Pelosi/Hoy­er/Emanuel Non-leadership of the "NEW DEMOCRAT CONGRESS ENABLERS ASSOCIATIO­N"....so what else is new? When are the GREAT NEW SHERIFFS going to SWITCH PARTIES FORMALLY and stop the "LETS PRETEND WE ARE DEMOCRATS OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE BULLSHIT"?

[otispfudpucker]

EVERYONE SHOULD SERIOUSLY LOOK AT RON PAUL, THIS SHIT WOULD NOT HAPPEN WITH HIM AS PRESIDENT.
NOW YOU CAN SEE WHY IAM AN INDEPENDENT.

IS COMPLAINING ALL YOU PEOPLE CAN DO ? I HAVE REPEATEDLY BEEN SAYING STOP BEING SHEEPLE. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND, CHANGE YOUR WAY OF THINKING.

DO YOU THINK I HAVE BEEN CALLING KILLARY A CORPORATE WHORE FOR THE HELL OF IT.
NO, I HAVE BEEN SAYING WHAT IT REALLY IS.
ALL THE JERKS THAT THINK SHE IS YOUR SAVIOR ARE A BUNCH OF ILL INFORMED LOST SOULS THAT FOLLOW SO EASILY IN TO THE PITS OF HELL BY NOT EDUCATING YOURSELVES TO WHAT THE HELL IS GOING DOWN IN AMERICA.

FOLKS IT IS NOT A PRETTY SIGHT TO COME.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS SO FULL OF CORRUPTION AND POWER HUNGRY ASS HOLES THAT IT IS DAMN SCAREY. THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING THESE LAWS (PATRIOT ACT, WIRETAPPING, MILITARY DRILLS OF CITIES BEING BOMBED, ECT.) SO THEY CAN KEEP US THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA UNDER A VERY TIGHT CONTROL.

WHY DO YOU THINK BLACKWATER IS AND WANTS TO PUT MORE SO CALLED TRAINING CAMPS AROUND THE COUNTRY?

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE LAWS THAT WILL CENSURE AND LIMIT INTERNET ACCESS? CONTROL PEOPLE, CONTROL.

OUR CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN RAPIDLY ELIMINATED BEFORE YOUR EYES. IMMINENT DOMAIN, WIRE TAPPING, LOSS OF HABEOUS CORPUS.

DO YOU GET THE POINT.
THE DEMS ARE IN THIS WITH THE REPUB.'S AND CORPORATE AMERICA
FOLKS PLEASE READ CROSSING THE RUBICON BY MICHAEL RUPPERT AND THEN YOU SHALL SEE WHAT IS GOING ON.

[KCFreedom]

Dang, I'd be annoyed if I didn't agree with everything you just said...

You forgot to mention Kuchinich & Gravel arn't bad, either. I don't trust anyone except them and Paul.

[godlessclif]

That is why Hitler thought democracies were weak.

The Democratic congress will be bulldozed into legalizing torture as well before long. No one likes to stand up to authority. It is emotionally draining. Only solid philosophy can help one do that.

It is called the Asch Effect
Dr. Solomon Asch a professor at Swarthmore did a series of experiments to show how peer pressure could change a person's attitude even in the presence of contradicting facts.

The Bush war on science has declared Asch's theory a failure. Asch died in 1996 so he cannot respond.

Of course the Bush war on science calls Darwin's theory a failure and for all I know Newton theory of gravity.
http://www.cultsock.ndirect.co.uk/MUHome/cshtml/socinf/conform.html

[SmellyOne]

...Or...

...Maybe somebody showed the Dems the importance of the program, and the Dems did the right thing and decided it's better to fight the bad guys than appease the HuffBots.

Maybe.

I could be wrong.

Either way, the HuffBot sheep won't do anything about.

They just like to bitch.

[abbiehoffmansghost]

I do what I can to preserve this democratic republic with my money, my vote, and my adherence to the law. What the fuck do you do, hang out at airport bathrooms?

[ThinkSomeMore]

There was a time when Republicans and Democrats had clearly stated philosophies and proudly adhered to them. Today, there is no discernible coherent philosophy and no value-based or ethical difference between the two parties. There is nothing to be proud of in either of the two corporate sectors of North American government. I am ashamed of my government and disgusted with the politicians who draw tax-payed salaries. What happens next when each of the three branches of government has less than 30% of the voters' confidence? Can we, the people, impeach them all, and how?

[Gayrove]

Look at your #%$#$&%@@!! headline: it's "REIN in" not "REIGN in", for heaven's sake. A newspaper that can't spell Modern English is just as bad as a President who can't speak Modern Adult.