Two Months After Vow To Reign In NSA, Dem Concessions On Wiretapping Expected

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First Posted: 10- 8-07 08:45 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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New York Times:

Two months after vowing to roll back broad new wiretapping powers won by the Bush administration, Congressional Democrats appear ready to make concessions that could extend some of the key powers granted to the National Security Agency.

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- SamEllison I'm a Fan of SamEllison 15 fans permalink
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HuffPo headline writer, reign or rein? I almost made the mistake on the next one up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 10/08/2007

I like it. All the Ralph Nader haters out there who cry that he made Bush dictator for the past seven years: fuck you. The only Democrat that can and would make a difference is Dennis Kucinich but according to you he can't win so double fuck you the Democrats suck just a little less than the republics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 10/08/2007

Amen to that!

The actions (and inactions) of Democrats the past six years have clearly proven that Ralph Nader was right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 10/08/2007

I don't care who the MSM tells us to vote for. Kucinich is THE MAN. Wake up America. He's the only one that has had the courage to stand up, consistently, from the beginning, for what's right. Kucinich CAN win.

Get the word out about him to everyone you know. It's up to us. I don't buy that he can't win. I refuse to let MSM hypnotise me or anyone I know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 10/08/2007
- mike53 I'm a Fan of mike53 8 fans permalink

Democrats have no spine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 10/08/2007
- eliandbo I'm a Fan of eliandbo 2 fans permalink

By the people
of the people
for the people
Mary had a little lamb, it's fleece was white as snow.
know any more fairy tales?
I never thought a country could self destruct as fast as this one has in just a few years.
This two party system sucks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 10/08/2007

Doesn't look like a two party system does it? More like Republican and Republican light.
Two sides of the same coin.

It's up to us to support only those who have proven they represent us.

I'm beginning to think maybe Ms. Impeachment Is Off the Table should be impeached. Is she representing us? Doesn't look like it. Looks like a lot of the Dems need to be impeached.

I never thought I'd say that but if they don't uphold the constitution, they're not doing their jobs.

Peace!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 10/08/2007
- init I'm a Fan of init 3 fans permalink

Lets just look at this for what it is. This Bush is the son of another Bush. Dems in congress will not do a dam thing for this reason. Paul Krugman claims to be suprised that this administration is basically the same one from 1980-1992. This will not move forward until he's gone or the country dies, which one comes first? Dam Shame. Did I read somewhere about "dry powder?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 10/08/2007
- Honeybun I'm a Fan of Honeybun 5 fans permalink

This was to be expected and unfortunately it is a pattern.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 10/08/2007
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lily livered lizards need to elect some with a spine I am sick of losing my liberties because they have no back bone in the fall fire them all every last one of them start a new aka get some new guards to protect and defend our bill of rights and our constitution why because I am an American who loves her Country and will not see it go the way of dinosaur so to speak what say you brothers and sisters of all free states can I get a that a boy ! or is it too late in the game to change players me thinks not!
Peace from the Great State of Utah

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 10/08/2007
- eliandbo I'm a Fan of eliandbo 2 fans permalink

Democrats roll over , they stand for nothing, they just want to get re-elected, beats heaving lifting, easy life, beats working. Lets party.
they will keep funding a war they say they are against.
They vote for unconstitutional wire tapping after condemning it. What good are they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 10/08/2007
- PollM I'm a Fan of PollM 8 fans permalink



Democrats are spineless they can't stand for anything, war funding and wiretapping issue they roll over like dogs.

Ben Franklin, said "Those who would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Take nothing for granted, these are the liberties that our forefathers have fought for. Power is Corrupt.

Should FISA old rules (getting a warrant to spy on U.S. citizens) be re-instated to protect the privacy of American citizens? --------> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=644

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 10/08/2007
- AurigaRa I'm a Fan of AurigaRa 27 fans permalink

"they just want to get re-elected"

You are so right. Because 90% of those who are angry with them today will still be voting for them next year.

They are all in this together - it's just a matter of republican 100% evil vs democratic 95% evil who smile when they lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 10/08/2007
- DarrowFan I'm a Fan of DarrowFan 2 fans permalink

Hey Huffington Post Editors: It's "REIN" in and not "reiGn" in. To "reign" is what kings and queens do. When you "rein in somebody" (with no G in the spelling), you're doing the same thing you do to horses: You "rein" them in, and that's what you meant to say here. "...rein in NSA..." You should really fix this headline! (I understand how it happened though because years ago when I was a magazine editor, an issue almost went out the door with this same error! Happily, somebody caught it. So, no criticism from me, believe me! Just think you need to change it.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 10/08/2007
- mike53 I'm a Fan of mike53 8 fans permalink

Enough with the grammar lessons. Adults get the context even though the words may not be correct. Go be "superior" elsewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 10/08/2007
- DarrowFan I'm a Fan of DarrowFan 2 fans permalink

It's not "superior" to use a language correctly. It's correct. You sound like one of those people who voted for Bush because "he's as stupid as I am, and I can invite him to the barbecue to drink beer! I like him so I'm going to defend even the silliest of his mistakes. There's no room for me to admit there might be the occasional failing." Being grammatically correct is not "superior," and I think people like Howard Zinn and Gore Vidal and my son's 8th grade English teacher would agree. And your comment about "adults" only shows how childish you are because you went straight for the insult because, what?, your beloved blog is being corrected? You sound like a Bushie who can't stand it when we tell him it's not "nukelar." Grow up: There's no shame in using language correctly. It's sad that you do think there's shame in that. It's pathetic that you can't see a genuine effort to help this blog be the best it can be. And I can't speak for her, but I'm guessing Arianna Huffington, when she publishes her books, checks for typos before the books hit the stores. She doesn't say, "Well, only children will mind my misspellings so let's just leave them. 'Adults' will get it." Maybe I'm wrong, though, because, again, I can't speak for her. It's just a (pretty darn good) guess on my part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 10/08/2007
- DarrowFan I'm a Fan of DarrowFan 2 fans permalink

And Mike53? Scroll up to see other "children" who have a problem with the incorrect headline, then...go be insulting elsewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 10/08/2007
- wndrwrthg I'm a Fan of wndrwrthg 33 fans permalink
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The dems have just signed their death warrant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 10/08/2007
- AurigaRa I'm a Fan of AurigaRa 27 fans permalink

as if they care

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 10/08/2007
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Not only have they signed their death warrant. Why do you think Bush wants to be able to wiretap without a warrant (i.e. without a paper trail)? So he can spy on the Dems. They're about to cut their own throats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 10/08/2007
- Raster I'm a Fan of Raster 22 fans permalink

They're the Dems, whatd'ya expect except caving in to their enemies? Any progressive or lib who still supports and votes for Dems has no self respect and deserves no respect.

Dems are "led" by a couple of sock puppets: Reid and Pelosi whose main concern is to have their hand out at all the appropriate times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 10/08/2007
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I hate to say it, Raster, but there may be something in what you say. I'm starting to feel like a person without a country, certainly without representation in "our" government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 10/08/2007
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I think that’s quite possibly one of the more inane comments I’ve ever read on this site. The alternative of course is A) voting for Republicans and getting them elected; or, B) voting for a Ralph Nader equivalent and getting Republicans elected. Of course another alternative would be leave the country or don’t vote at all and bitch. But I get the feeling you will bitch no matter what happens.

At least when Democrats fuck up they err on the side of trying to make the world a better place. Republicans err on the side of lining the pockets of war-profiteers and pissing on the constitution.

Yeah, by all means Raster, let’s follow your wisdom and vote for Republicans. Fuckin’ idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 10/09/2007
- freespeach I'm a Fan of freespeach 59 fans permalink

The DLC troll talking points on this in August were....wait just six weeks and this will all be fixed.

So here we are once again getting screwed by Democrats and the DLC talking point is the fear card of big bad Ralph Nader and how voting for him will give us more Republican rule. Fuck off you DLC whores!!

The DLC killed our party, not Ralph Nader.
Nader is not the story here. The FACT that the once great Democratic party was killed by DLC whores is the story.

change the rules vote Green.

http://www.gp.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 10/09/2007
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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How correct you are Raster. Reid and Pelosi are basking in the cash, fame and power for now. Hopefully they will be gone next election.
But I wonder because of the short attention span of the American Voter if they wont just spin a new persona come their next election cycle, and most will eat it up hook line and sinker.
Just like Hillary, Obama and the rest are doing now. Rewriting who they are , what they've done and what they stand for each day of their campaign. And millions are eating it up.( I dont have to mention Repugs because everyone knows they are lying. Their lips are moving!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 10/09/2007
- Peabodies I'm a Fan of Peabodies 19 fans permalink

What do you expect. If you can wiretap/surveil anyone, anyplace, you might find all kinds of political dirt, which is a despot's tool. Not the example this country used to give.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 10/08/2007
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