Clinton Leads Obama By 21-Points In New Hampshire

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First Posted: 10-14-07 08:28 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Reuters:

Hillary Clinton has a 21-point lead over fellow Democrat Barack Obama in New Hampshire, one of the first states to vote in the nominating process for the 2008 U.S. presidential election, a poll showed on Sunday.

In a poll by Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, 41 percent of likely Democratic voters support Clinton followed by 20 percent for Obama, a first-term senator from Illinois. Former Sen. John Edwards was third with 11 percent.

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There is no Democrat or Republican. With the exception of Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul, all are shills are "Republicats," shills for the corporatist agenda. "Corporatist" is a euphemism for FASCISM. The merging of business and state is FASCISM.

Your choice is not between Republican or Democrat. The only difference is the window dressing. Bill Clinton set the stage for George Bush to take away our civil liberties. Do your research! Both parties are selling us down the river! Both Clintons are stooges, globalists bought and paid for by international elites.

Here's your real choice: Between a federalist republic/democracy, or a Bolshevik/Fascist state.

That's it. So far we're still so close to the edge of disaster THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for millions dead in the middle east. I DON'T WANT THAT BLOOD ON MY HANDS. Do you?

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are our only hope. I PRAY EVERY DAY (and I'm not even religious!) that the pair will run as independents. The wackier ideas will cancel each other out, but at least we'll get out of Iraq.

ONE MILLION PEOPLE DEAD IN IRAN. Now they're dying from the depleted uranium. Is this going to be Iran's fate, a country that's NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO US?

Think about it: A third party candidate is the ONLY thing that will save the Republic. Sad but true. Both Repugs and Democratic nominees are warmongering shills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 10/16/2007

How many Democratic Presidents have we had lately? Since Reagans' First I believe we've had one and I believe his name was Clinton. The Clinton machine knows how to win and nobody else on the Dem side does. Part of the reason they don't make progressives happy is they have to appeal to enough Americans to get elected. And you can't do a damn thing if you don't get elected. Except gripe maybe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 10/14/2007

I don't know if Nader lost the 2000 election for Gore or not, but if he runs in 08 he'll put another Repub in the White House and two maybe three more Repub Justices on the SCOTUS. Whichever side get the third party ego trip will lose. If the Fundies run somebody the Dems will win. Third Party types just cut off their noses to spite their own faces.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 10/14/2007
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The Court is a strong argument for HRC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 10/14/2007
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We are ANTI-WAR.

We WANT OUR TROOPS BACK NOW.

We are AGAINST NEO-CON PLANS IN IRAN.

WE HAVE HAD IT, WE HAVE HAD IT, WITH POLITICS AS USUAL.



Now, line up behind Hillary.

Great!


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 10/14/2007
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What do you want from me?

Besides directly battling Bush, I am pulling for Obama.

But I expect HRC to win, and I am not in despair over that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 10/14/2007
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I think many progressive and liberal folks are just really disturbed that we are being TOLD who won.
It's almost a year now that the MSM as held Hilary up as the presumptive nominee.
and now we are all just accepting this seemingly "foregone conclusion" as though we have no say in the matter.
While I fully understand the American mentality feeling powerless at present, it just feels a little lazy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 10/14/2007

I see the losing machine's been already set in motion.

Thrash Clinton, thrash Obama and let the space wide open for Giuliani.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 10/14/2007

All they need is Nader and the Repubs are in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 10/14/2007
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In that case, Repubs are in.

Nader didn't cause Gore's defeat. Gore did. It should never have been that close.

I am sick of Dems blaming their defeat on others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 10/14/2007
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That is sad, especially since there is no Democrat or Republican anymore. With the exception of Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul, all are shills are "Republicats," shills for the corporatist agenda. "Corporatist" is a euphemism for FASCISM. The merging of business and state is FASCISM.

Let that sink in for a minute.

Your choice is NOT between Republican or Democrat. Your choice is between freedom and slavery. The only thing that will save the Republic is a candidate who will get us out of the war and restore the constitution.

I'm gunning for a Paul/Kucinich ticket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 10/16/2007
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This is the primaries. One of the Dems will get nominated. Relax.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 10/14/2007
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I think the United States is really in huge trouble. The Status Quo has brought us to the miserable point we are right now, and Hillary Clinton represents the Status Quo.

I do not deny that Clinton has a political machine at her disposal that can get her in the White House, but the question is whether or not she is the answer to America's problems at this time of our history?

That question should be at the heart of every voter's choice for President at this critical time. It's not a beauty contest. The United States is not in the power position it was during the 50's through the 70's. The country is NOT looked at as the hope for humanity as it once was, the Bush Administration has seen to that. A President who views Corporations as an answer to America and the World's ills will be leading America down a path of further marginalization.

America has exhausted her goodwill in the World and it will take a visionary not a Corporatist to reclaim that.

I predict if Hillary takes the White House you will find, a couple of years out, Democrats who voted for her denying that fact just as we see Republicans today denying that they ever voted for Bush.

And the Democrats will seem just as pathetic.

If there is to be a woman President of the United States, let us hope she isn't an American version of Margaret Thatcher.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 10/14/2007

I agree fogbelter. The fact remains as much as I would regret voting for Hillary and know what the deal is, I would have to put myself under constant medical attention if I voted for anybody in the authoritarian/warmonger bunch on the republican side. I'm for John Edwards because he seems to be the one most likely to stand up to the corporations. He spent most of his life doing it. I think Hillary is a part of the corporate interests voting for her is far from the lesser of two evils. It's bad compared to total destruction. No contest. All of those people on the right seriously scare me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 10/14/2007

BAGHDAD " A parked car bomb struck worshippers heading to a Shiite mosque Sunday in Baghdad, killing at least nine people as Iraqis celebrated a Muslim holiday. Authorities said 18 others died the day before when a suicide truck bomber followed by a swarm of gunmen attacked a regional police station.

Nobody claimed responsibility for the attacks, but they bore the hallmarks of al-Qaida in Iraq insurgents who had promised an offensive during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan to undermine U.S.-Iraqi claims of success in quelling the violence in the capital with an 8-month-old security operation.

Yawn. More death more wounding. So what???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 10/14/2007

Neo flys away in her invisible 'little jet'. Only Neo can see her little jet - and she only sees it after six bottles of Bonnes Farm Apple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 10/14/2007

Bonnes Farm?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 10/14/2007
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"I don't want to work on Bonnes Farm no more."

--B. Dylan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 10/14/2007

Is the RC or religiously correct movement any better than the PC or politically correct movement? If so how so??? Looks like my little Rapture ditty got scrubbed. I was religiously incorrect I guess. First Amendment don't apply to criticism of religion huh???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 10/14/2007

Clinton can be president of New Hampshire and the rest of us can do something else.
A vote for Clinton is a vote for more of the same: more war all the time, more imperialism, more Medicare part D solutions to health care, more lawlessness and infringement on our civil rights, more support for Israel's genocidal land grab, more betrayal.
Watch what they do, not what they say. Her voting record tells you what kind of president she'll be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 10/14/2007

If mindless voters give Hillary Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton the Democratic nomination and the White House the nation loses. The corporate-fueled status quo will continue; Jeb will be next; and we may never see Democracy agin in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 10/14/2007


One word - Intriguing....

What do you believe is driving Hillary Clinton's huge lead of 21- points over her rival Barack Obama? -----> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=709
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 10/14/2007
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If Al runs in 08

Will he pick Lieberman again?

Would you vote for him if he does?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 10/14/2007
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Don't be silly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 10/14/2007
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Silly, Lieberman hasnt changed he was always an A-hole.

Why did Al pick him before, because he disagreed with him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 10/14/2007
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I'm having trouble keeping my lunch down at the thought of that traitor lieberat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 10/14/2007

our method for electing presidents is very undemocratic. once again the king makers in the 2 parties will each select a drone for us. i am no euro lover, but a system without primaries, with a run off would seem to be better than this crap. i would possibly vote dem if obama were the nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 10/14/2007

If we allow the corporate media polls to elect our next president then we are screwed again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 10/14/2007
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