Disgraced Neocons Flocking To Giuliani's Camp

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First Posted: 10-15-07 10:50 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Newsweek:

Neocons can't help but slink around Washington, D.C. The Iraq War has given the neoconservatives--who favor the assertive use of American power abroad to spread American values--something of a bad name, and several of the Republican candidates seem less than eager to hire them as advisers. But Rudy Giuliani apparently never got that memo. One of the top foreign-policy consultants to the leading GOP candidate is Norman Podhoretz, a founding father of the neocon movement.

Podhoretz is in favor of bombing Iran because of the country's unwillingness to suspend its uranium-enrichment program. He also believes America is engaged in a "world war" with "Islamofascism" and that Giuliani is the only man who can win it. "I decided to join Giuliani's team because his view of the war--what I call World War IV--is very close to my own," Podhoretz tells NEWSWEEK. (World War III, in his view, was the cold war.) "And also because he has the qualities of a wartime leader, including a fighting spirit and a determination to win."

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- Norge I'm a Fan of Norge 22 fans permalink

The democrats will field a woman for president and the republicans will field a man for president and it is a no brainer which will win in America.

America is far from ready for a black, indian, oriental, arabic or woman for president.

If it is just a bit off color are you sure it's American?

It is just not socioligical exceptable in the present day America.

Even though Clinton is just a stones throw from the republicans though she is in this present day and age, the wrong sex.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 10/16/2007
- gcallaghan I'm a Fan of gcallaghan 52 fans permalink
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Giuliani is their man of choice because he is susceptible to their blackmail pressure and he's chickenshit. Thompson is their backup. They chose Bush because he's too stupid to figure out what they're doing. Giuliani is their man of choice because he is susceptible to their blackmail pressure and he's chickenshit. Thompson is their backup because he has W's and Rudy's most desirable qualities in one package. If Thompson somehow gets the nomination - his VP will be a neocon chieftain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 10/16/2007

Giuliani and the neocons deserve each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 10/16/2007

Giuliani and the neocons deserve each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 10/16/2007
- rbenjamin I'm a Fan of rbenjamin 20 fans permalink
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Somebody please clarify. Are there any un-disgraced neocons?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 10/16/2007
- WigWamWag I'm a Fan of WigWamWag 8 fans permalink

The Huffington Post is often a sectarian collective that uses propaganda techniques as a vehicle for 1) political change for socialist causes and 2) to produce revenue for the owner. It, like the Democratic and Republican parties, has not become a catalyst for chance because it cannot obtain a valid consensus of objectives.

Let us look at two phenomena “the sect" and "the catalyst,” as these concepts relate to problems of the contemporary movements and other control projects.

Many as terms of abuse often use the terms “sect” and “sectarian” in a loose fashion and usually just indicating one group disagrees with another. In using the term "sect" in a precise manner, it is of great use in throwing light on what is going wrong with various groups concerning the pursuit of a project. The basic characteristic of the sect seems to be its "existential character.­” Groups growing and existing for their own sake. Different sects may have different objectives, methodologies, and goals. Cultural, racial, economic, sexual, and religious influences come into play. These influences can create agreement or friction and large areas for cooperation or divisive hostility and derision.

In contrast, a catalyst exists to facilitate changes in the environment and society that surrounds it. The often-intense activity of sects is unrelated to facilitating key components of the pursuit of the control project assisting self-organization on the job via networking, raising morale, providing forums for discussion/ debate and information sharing. In order to build and maintain a catalyst, a consensus of objectives and methodologies should be reached in a fair and honest manner. Reaching that conscience is the challenging part often associated with mediation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 10/16/2007
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 69 fans permalink
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Like to like.

UGH

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 10/15/2007

Anytime you see the neocon think tank gerbils flocking around a candidate, you know they are definitely not the one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 10/15/2007
- serialcoma I'm a Fan of serialcoma 122 fans permalink
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Ghouliani needs the neocons... without them he'll run out of bones from which to suck the marrow.... he feeds on pain and suffering.

Is he realted to Cheney?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 10/15/2007

Puleeze, this is not news. I think we all knew the two-faced holier than thou anti-choice, anti-gay, pro-religion, pro-family values, etc. were going to get behind the thrice married, cousin marrying, 9/11 liar!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 10/15/2007
- Qbear I'm a Fan of Qbear 51 fans permalink

Rudy is known for a very discerning tastes

best friend = Kerick

who brought his whores for nooners in the apartment set aside for 9/11 rescue workers to rest, AND was sent to train Iraqi police...t­he biggest f*cking disaster in a series of total f*ck ups in Iraq, hey that's saying something.

then look at the 3rd Mrs. Giuliani..­.doesn't she just REEK of good taste.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 10/15/2007
- Qbear I'm a Fan of Qbear 51 fans permalink

Rudy's campaign is a LARGE SKIRT, all you snakes from the NeoCon think tanks slither right under Rudy'd petticoats.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/dragBetter.jpg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 10/15/2007

To the choir...We all agree (that, for one reason or the other) the Bush administration invaded and occupied a sovereign nation. Although the Dems could end the American invasion of Iraq within months, they will NEVER allow the Bush family and the Republicans to exonerate the Shrub legacy. The Dems are more than willing to sacrifice the lives of our finest youth in order to further the liberal cause. Any act that would not allow historians to place the blame on a Neo-Con failure won't be contemplated by the Democratic party. Dead American warriors and Iraqis be damned! The death and futility of the Iraq debacle will end when the failure of the Bush administration is historically assured.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 10/16/2007

Damn Hilliary, too

American Monarchy or American Democracy?

The United States might not have a Monarchy, but for 40 % of all Americans it might feel like it. Bush, Clinton, Bush...Cli­nton??? It sure is starting to sound like one. A recent article from the Associated Press reveals some rather startling statistics on the state of our American democratic system. Here are a few excerpts

read more at News Sophisticate
http://newssophisticate.blogspot.com/2007/10/american-monarchy-or-american-democracy.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 10/15/2007

of course the neo cons are 'flocking' to Giuliani..­.he is their new 'prophet' of doom. The perpetuator of the 'war of terror'

He is "bushness" as usual

http://newssophisticate.blogspot.com/search?q=rudy+giuliani

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 10/15/2007

Damn straight.

The warmongering neocons are attracted to Giuliani the way flies are attracted to shit. Podhoretz is the biggest warmongering degenerate of 'em all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 10/15/2007

Moving over to Rudy? Pond scum always collects in one area depending how the wind is blowing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 10/15/2007

Ah! The last refuge of all the scoundrels!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 10/15/2007

All the 911 co-conspirators gather 'round their demon leader, hoping against hope to grasp the crown and forever seal the doom of American Liberty. Like cockroaches swarming a maggot, they have no where else to turn for sustenance. Rudy as President was always part of the neocon con anyway. Bush and the NSA were trying to tap phones before 911. What more proof do you need? Rudy was the broker for all the WTC steel, sold it to China and Japan to be recycled. Problem is, it's a felony to remove and destroy evidence from a crime scene before it can be studied forensically. Yes, Rudi, the son of a Mafia Enforcer (no shit!) is the last great hope of the globalist scum that wired the WTC with explosives, and sent drone jets crashing into our constitution as well as the WTC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 10/15/2007
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