To His Dismay, Ron Paul Becoming Magnet For White Supremacists

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First Posted: 10-15-07 09:30 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Through no fault of his own, Rep. Ron Paul's anti-globalist, anti-government campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has become a magnet in neo-Nazi networks, pulling in activists and supporters from the fringe white nationalist community where anti-Semitism, anti-black and anti-immigrant views are commonplace.

In some cases, these internet-based activists acknowledge that even though the Paul campaign does not have a racist or anti-Semitic agenda, it can serve as a vehicle to find sympathizers and to recruit new loyalists drawn to the Republican congressman's opposition to international trade agreements, federal police authority and to the income tax.

Such web-based organizations as Stormfront (motto: "White Pride, World Wide"), Vanguard News Network ("No Jews. Just Right.") and the Nationalist Coalition ("working to create the relationships that will lay the foundation for the White community that is necessary to our survival") have become sources of support for Paul's bid for the Republican nomination, and in some cases have set up separate Ron Paul discussion groups.

The Paul campaign dismissed the pro-Paul activities among these groups. "We don't know who these people are," said Jesse Benton, Paul's communications director. Their support has "nothing to do with Ron Paul, and what he stands for....His message of freedom, peace and prosperity - that's why people support him."

Paul has not made racist or anti-Semitic appeals to the controversial organizations and their members. Instead, their support is based on Paul's libertarian opposition to government generally, including the IRS and the powers granted to the federal government under the Patriot Act - views that are shared by many on the conservative fringe of the spectrum.

In the 2000 campaign, Patrick J. ("Pat") Buchanan appealed to many similar individuals and organizations. Buchanan had a history of expressing views that were often interpreted as anti-Semitic.

Writing on the Vanguard News Network, "White Will" argued that "folks, get involved in the Ron Paul 'revolution' and work with political activists in your communities who are attracted to his anti-globalist message.... Most of you would be surprised at how many good people can be exposed to a, let's say, 'pro-majority' message among the remarkable groundswell of fed up, mostly White Ron Paul supporters -- many, early on, from the 9/11 truth movement. They are finding their backbones as they are exposed to more and more hidden truths, especially about the hidden hand of Jewry behind every foul venture."

Among those backing Paul this year is John J. Ubele, the National Coalition's Operations Manager. In an emailed reply to an inquiry, Ubele said, "I know that Ron Paul is not a white separatist or a white nationalist. However, he is the most honest and responsible of all the presidential candidates and that is why I support his candidacy."

The National Coalition is one of a number of splinter groups that formed after the death of William Luther Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries, and founder of the now fractured National Alliance. The Turner Diaries were considered crucial to the thinking of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.

On a Stormfront discussion thread on the Paul Campaign - "The Ron Paul Revolution" -- one contributor wrote in:

"Not standing up for Ron Paul against the un-American Jewish media and neo-cons who will do anything to stop his nomination is like not standing up to the efforts to force integration, to encourage mass non-White immigration, or to the attack on the USS Liberty."

"Ron Paul is NOT a White Nationalist. His Libertarian policies will also conflict with National Socialism, something that a good number of Stormfront members support. However, he is the least toxic candidate by leaps and bounds," wrote a contributor identified as "Concerned Human."

A minority of the contributors to white nationalist web sites insist on rigid adherence to their racial views. "Anything less than ALL is NOTHING. If anythings priority is not 100% the survival of the White Race, than it is a problem and not a solution. Ron Paul's priority is not 100% the survival of the white race, so he is an enemy and a burden just as much as any jew," wrote "comJo, Pan-Aryan Insurgent."

The white nationalist and anti-Semitic support flowing to the Paul campaign reflects one of the difficulties facing candidates who do not fall into the midstream: that often their views on less controversial subjects like trade and the power of the federal government to take property through eminent domain also appeal to extremist groups.

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Obviously a hit piece on a man who could be THE anti-war candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 10/16/2007

justmal : Either that... Or his outing. -ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 10/16/2007
- Bobleblah1 I'm a Fan of Bobleblah1 21 fans permalink

Some pretty good comments today, I'm glad that people still think even if I don't always agree with those thoughts. This is obviously anti Ron Paul subterfuge and I hope everyone see's it for what it is. Of course we are not going to agree with everything that Mr Paul thinks but the heart of his argument is critical to embrace. I know he's still a republican that wants to cut programs, however the ideologies of those he is running against are far more dangerous at present time.

We can not allow things that are not constitutional to become the modes of operation in our country. Just because one bit of unconstitutional law favors a concept you agree with, does not make it right. The same basis that you use to achieve the non constitutional law you like, will be the basis that those who you most strongly oppose will use to justify their ill designs.

Republicans will soon learn this lesson first hand.

"THE MINUTE YOU STOP SOMEONE ELSE FROM HAVING THEIR FREEDOM, YOU HAVE STOPPED YOURSELF"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 10/16/2007
- cuomofied I'm a Fan of cuomofied 19 fans permalink

"THE MINUTE YOU STOP SOMEONE ELSE FROM HAVING THEIR FREEDOM, YOU HAVE STOPPED YOURSELF"


I like your quote alot...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 10/16/2007

Why wouldn't white supremacist haters support Tancredo who wants to round up and throw illegal aliens out of the country, and continue killing brown people in the Middle East and even expand the war and start killing other brown people. Something's fishy here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 10/16/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 10/16/2007

Oh my God!!!!

THE DEMBOTS SHOW ONE OF THEIR FACES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 10/16/2007

Gal RuPaul : LMFAO ! PRICELESS !!

Mornin' Jane. ( You GO Jane. ) -ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 10/16/2007
- JamesR. I'm a Fan of JamesR. 153 fans permalink
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But I notice you did not refute with facts what the so called dembot said Galvy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 10/16/2007
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With all due respect Galveston, shouldnt you be over at a redstate site trying to lure republicans to your candidate? I like Paul but he is still a long shot. Once republicans get behind him, I'm sure many more democrats would. But insulting us by name calling isnt going to win you too many converts...you know the old saying about sugar, vinegar and bees dontcha?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 10/16/2007

I wonder there, Cletus, if you think you're helping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 10/16/2007

Ron Paul.

The ONLY candidate that can debate Hillary on foreign policy and voting record, and win!

Its a record like this that causes these useless smears:

He voted No on Nafta.
No to CAFTA.
No to the IMF.
No to the WTO
No to the patriot act.
No to the Patriot act 2.
No to the military commissions act.
No to the Fisa give away.
No to wiretapping.
No to eminent domain.
No to gay civil unions but YES to full marriage rights for gays.
No to incarcerating millions of Americans on a so called "war on Drugs" for minor possession charges.
Has signed on to no war with Iran.
Has won more straw polls than Clinton.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec07/paul_10-12.html

I would like for someone to show a better voting record for the will of the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 10/16/2007
- Rand I'm a Fan of Rand 46 fans permalink

Why did Dr. Paul write an article expressing his opposition to a constitutional amendment banning Gay marriage, but expressing, whole-heartedly, his support of the "Defence of Marriage Act" which has EXACTLY the same effect without altering the Constitution? How do you square Dr. Paul's own words with your claim of his support for Gay marriage?

BTW, how does Dr. Paul's support for the "Defence of Marriage Act" square itself with "States' rights"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 10/16/2007

show me a candidate that has a better voting record. Has a better foreign policy.
and is electable....
I asked you this question and it has been conveniently ignored.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 10/16/2007

Ron Paul has not a single word about supporting gay marriage on his website. Why is that?
He has used all sorts of religionist rhetoric in his support of the DOMA and other protection of marriage legislation that he really should have voted against, if it is not the Fed's business.
You keep saying things about Ron Paul that Ron Paul does not say about Ron Paul.
I'd love to hear him come out in support of all Americans right to equal protection under the law and speak out for gay marriage rights. But I have not heard him do so.
And he won't. Because he is a Republican and so he says it should be an issue for the states, which is what all Republicans say about a lot of things until they get into office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 10/16/2007

Rons issue with gay marriage is simple.
He believes the federal government has the right by way of constitution to recognize gay marriage.
He links this with freedom of religion and most gays get married in a church.

He also views this as a law for the states to vote on and to enact by the will of the people of that state., not the federal government.
He says that all gay marriages deserve the right to Federal tax credits the same as hetero couples enjoy at the hand of the federal government.
The states should ultimately grant legal rights to this issue as stated in our constitution.

You have to look deep to find this...But this is a prime example why the Christian Right will not endorse him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 10/16/2007

Kucinich is a better candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 10/16/2007

You are so way full of shit

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 10/16/2007
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You knew this was coming.

The only viable candidate committed to ending the War in Iraq, happens to be a REPUBLCAN.

Can't have that...

SMEAR SMEAR SMEAR

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 10/16/2007
- JamesR. I'm a Fan of JamesR. 153 fans permalink
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Viable? LOL You're delusional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 10/16/2007

You call him delusional but fail to present someone better.

How typical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 10/16/2007
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JamesR Writes: "Viable? LOL You're delusional."

Well, by "viable" I meant : "More chance than Kucinich"

I believe he and Dr. Paul are the only announced anti war candidates. The rest have all vowed to remain in Iraq after the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 10/16/2007
- strandwolf I'm a Fan of strandwolf 6 fans permalink

Watch what's gonna happen in New Hampshire and Ioway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 10/16/2007

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
~Sir Winston Churchill

Describes the Ron Paul supporters quite well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 10/16/2007

I will state for the 100th time....
Show me a better candidate with a better voting record who holds a better foreign policy and is electable.

If you cant, then why should I change the subject...
Just give me someone better to look at, DEMBOT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 10/16/2007

I do not respond to demands made by nutjob RuPaul supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 10/16/2007
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RuPaul isn't electable so even HE doesn't fit your criteria.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 10/16/2007

Kucinich is more electable than Paul because Paul is a Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 10/16/2007

Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.Just Vote Paul or Kucincich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 10/16/2007

If the Democrats start telling Dr. Paul to have Dennis as his running mate and enough people agreed, he would.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT HIS AGENDA.
It is about the will of the people.
He states the people have not been listened to and that is where others veer from the course.
Both have already claimed to be good friends.
They both vote alike.
What would be more unbeatable, than a

Paul/Kucinich 08 ticket?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 10/16/2007

Kucinich would not even be seen in public with RuPaul, much less share a ballot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 10/16/2007

Democrats can just vote for Dennis. We don't need Ron Paul. This is a Primary election, and it is the GOP folk who are stuck with a choice like Ron Paul.
We have Dennis, who is not at all like Ron Paul.
Dennis clearly states his positions. Dennis does not have supporters show up on websites and post a bunch of false information. Dennnis just speaks for himself.
I'd think it a great day if the GOP actually nominated Paul and the Democrats Dennis. That would be an amazing race to witness, and a lock for Dennis!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 10/16/2007

Ron Paul scares them because he is a free individual. see dialog from Easy Rider:

George Hanson: You know, this used to be a helluva good country. I can't understand what's gone wrong with it.
Billy: Man, everybody got chicken, that's what happened. Hey, we can't even get into like, a second-rate hotel, I mean, a second-rate motel, you dig? They think we're gonna cut their throat or somethin'. They're scared, man.
George Hanson: They're not scared of you. They're scared of what you represent to 'em.
Billy: Hey, man. All we represent to them, man, is somebody who needs a haircut.
George Hanson: Oh, no. What you represent to them is freedom.
Billy: What the hell is wrong with freedom? That's what it's all about.
George Hanson: Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what's it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it, that's two different things. I mean, it's real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. Of course, don't ever tell anybody that they're not free, 'cause then they're gonna get real busy killin' and maimin' to prove to you that they are. Oh, yeah, they're gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em.
Billy: Well, it don't make 'em runnin' scared.
George Hanson: No, it makes 'em dangerous. Buh, neh! Neh! Neh! Neh! Swamp!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 10/16/2007
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I think there's a lot of people both inside and outside our country that think that the United
States has some sort of solemn perpetual moral
and financial obligation to solve the rest of
the world's problems. You've got people like
Fareed Zakaria who want to build the real-world
equivalent of Team America, I think it's all
crass, silly, and stupid, but you have to
consider that the people that want the above
type of thing to go on are going to be death
on anybody that opposes driving our country
5 trillion futher in debt to basically pay
for everybody else's crap, and be perpetually
involved in B.S. like the Iraq war. I think
there's also been quite a bit of political
fakery lately, a lot of which also boils
down to 'get whitey'.

We're at a decision line, economically,
manufacturing, the capacity to produce
goods domestically for both domestic use
as well as exports, has been diminished.
The dollar has dropped, the price for commodities including fuel has risen and
been kept high, the global banking fracas
with the slumlord hedge funds has sapped
a fair amount of revenue out of our economy,
there's lots of Really Interesting Stuff
going on, and now people are throwing
the race card to boot. Something's afoot,
and unless SOMEbody steps forward, such
as Paul, and starts advocating reforms,
it's gonna get uglier...war takes many forms,
it's not always people with guns...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 10/16/2007
- nihilon x I'm a Fan of nihilon x 39 fans permalink

Funny how you can sit there and talk about "get whitey" then later bitch about others "throwing the race card".

Practice what you preach before you go preaching to others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 10/16/2007

He was referring to this article you twit not himself.

Can you comprehend?
This is a raced based discussion.
because the useless thread is race based.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 10/16/2007
- Chris11 I'm a Fan of Chris11 2 fans permalink

nihilon, I don't think you read his post.

realitytrumpsbull isn’t using the race card. He’s simply stating a fact. Some people and groups seem to think that white people should foot the bill to cure every ill in this country, and in the world. In many cases this involves countries that have had thousands of years to get their stuff together and STILL can’t manage to produce a working economy, a working government or, in some cases, to even feed their own people. Every time the idiots in some backwater part of the world start a civil war, the US is expected to go in and save the day, spending obscene amounts of money in the process.

America should not be the world’s piggy-bank nor its policeman. And white people are NOT responsible for everyone else’s problems.

On the other hand, some groups are forever using the race card, either to get special treatment, or to avoid taking responsibility for their actions, their lives and their obligations. All because it’s easier to blame others (whitey) than to get off our dead ass and earn our own way.

And, no, I’m not a “white guy.” Others consider me a minority—but I simply consider myself an American. I feel I can compete with anyone, I don’t need special treatment and I don’t ask for any.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 10/16/2007
- HaveFun I'm a Fan of HaveFun 2 fans permalink

It is funny that Jon Stewart called Ron Paul a man of principled integrity and consistency. Why hasn't the author mentioned that, too! Last time I checked, Jon Stewart is not a supremacist! It is a shame. Ron Paul and Barrack Obama are probably the most principled, consistent candidates, and this is what we get. Too sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 10/16/2007

They figured they will throw something like this to get us all here and see how many of us there are.

Wait till they see what has actually happened while they were capitulating war and illegal wiretapping, and jumping to the administrations orders.
Wait till they see.

SWHTF.

They are extremely nervous.
They did not see this coming....
Now the attacks start and this loser EDSELL will keep on keepin' on with the capitulation....
Oh they will do more once they're back in session.
Oh they would never bring that bill.
Oh illegal war with Iran, that will never pass.

Cmon, yall need to wake up and see the truth of DR RON PAUL.
If nothing else, you will at least get the truth from your experience.

They figured they will throw something like this to get us all here and see how many of us there are.

Wait till they see what has actually happened while they were capitulating war and illegal wiretapping.
Wait till they see.

SWHTF.

They are extremely nervous.
They did not see this coming....
Now the attacks start and this loser EDSELL will keep on keepin on with the capitulation....
Oh they will do more once theyre back insession.
Oh they would never bring that bill.
Oh illegal war with Iran, that will never pass.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec07/paul_10-12.html

Go Ron Paul. He has won 75% of the national straw polls...
See for yourself.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results

Ron Paul r3VOLution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 10/16/2007

I checked and rechecked before my post....
This double speak was done by the posters.

Too funny.

They should be nervous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 10/16/2007

approvers is what I meant to say. not posters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 10/16/2007
- photog606 I'm a Fan of photog606 3 fans permalink

"A smear campaign was instituted against individuals who opposed intervention. The terms "fifth columnist," "traitor," "Nazi," "anti-Semitic" were thrown ceaselessly at any one who dared to suggest that it was not to the best interests of the United States to enter the war. Men lost their jobs if they were frankly anti-war. Many others dared no longer speak..."
--Charles Lindbergh - September 11, 1941

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/16/2007
- Rand I'm a Fan of Rand 46 fans permalink

Is that the same Charles Lindbergh who belonged to the German-American Bund (A Nazi "front" organization) and was given a medal by Adolf Hitler (Which, when most German-Americans were ridding themselves of any connection to the Nazi regime, he put in a box full of [In his widow's words] "his most prized possessions)?

Y'mean THAT Lindbergh???

I don't think you're doing Dr. Paul any favors by invoking Lindbergh's name

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 10/16/2007

You just cant leave jew enough alone....
what is it with you and Israel?

AAAH! you are a Zionist!(By your own admission)
Do you only care for the succession of this state?
Nothing of your own country?
Cmon Rant, whats going on?

You have the right to go fight side by side with Israel.
They would even make you a citizen if you do so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 10/16/2007

Thye tried calling Paul an isolationist and it did not work. Now the limousine liberals like Edsall have lowered themselves to playing the race card.

Remember when Al Sharpton played the race card on Howard Dean. He said Howard was racist because of his five person Governors council there was no black. In a state where only 1 in 25 people are black Sharpton asked that 20 percent of the Governor council be set aside as a black quota.

Dean tried to explain his administration hired many blacks, but Sharpton said "Not good enough, at least one of the five council members must be black of you are a racist!!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 10/16/2007
- nihilon x I'm a Fan of nihilon x 39 fans permalink

No one here ever said Paul was a racist.

He wrote that Paul appeals to white supremacists, which is true.

The more people like you keep twisting the facts, the more I'm inclined not to trust the man you keep trying to promote as being as the only honest candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 10/16/2007
- brisa I'm a Fan of brisa 3 fans permalink

I have been waiting for the hit pieces to start making their appearance. Right on cue, as Ron Paul keeps winning straw polls (the latest in Nevada) here comes the attempts to villify him and his supporters.

Ron Paul is a threat to the powerful DC interests that are running this country into the ground. He stands for individual liberty which has the effect of uniting both right and left. Keeping the country divided with wedge issues allows those in power to continue to rob the citizenry of their constitutional rights to privacy, due process and freedom of speech and assembly.

Look at the corporate and AIPAC toadies whom the corporate media deems front runners. There is very little difference between the candidates. If you desire business as usual in DC, you can believe stories like the one published here. But if you prefer a government run by the people and for the people, support Ron Paul in '08.

www.ronpaul2008.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 10/16/2007

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results

Heres for all to see.
weep the results.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 10/16/2007

Gal RuPaul : " ... weep the results. "

BWAHAHAHAH­AHAHAHAHAH­AHAHAHA !!

-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 10/16/2007

What a bunch of tiny, meaningless polls.

Pretty funny. Is that all you got?

Try this one:

Rasmussen Reports Poll Jul 20-22, 2007 Barack Obama 50% Ron Paul 30%
Rasmussen Reports Poll Jul 20-22, 2007 Hillary Clinton 49% Ron Paul 34%

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 10/16/2007

Paul is at one percent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 10/16/2007
- Balloonman I'm a Fan of Balloonman 13 fans permalink
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brisa
If you support a REDUCED government/LESS government of the people. With no support from the people far as paying, even for this DOWNSIZED government of the people, which currently is composed of departments of the people created supposedly bipartisan to represent the interests and diverse agendas and opinions of the people. Plus if you support a Libertarian platform advocating without equivocation, let the free market laissez faire be without any regulations-- otherwords no federal agencies to protect the people from CORPORATISM--why, then okay, Ron Paul is your man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 10/16/2007

Excuse me.

sorry to intrude.

But if this were true, the corporates would not shun him.

Argument dissolved!.

In fact they rally against him...
I know that Dr. Pauls ideas dont make sense to some. It takes hard knowledge and years of experience to gather his view...
Not to mention the blessing of the constitution.
Something we never see anymore.

These private companies do not want to operate under the constitution.
CMON, now

Ron Paul is all these undesirables worst nightmare...
Even politicians...
He wants to reduce their pay 50%.( 70k yr as opposed to 160k a yr)
He wants to take some money out of their fat asses, like they have done to the American taxpayer!

Go Ron Paul

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 10/16/2007
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