Democrats Win Praise From Surge Supporter O'Hanlon

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First Posted: 10-17-07 01:27 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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2007-10-17-ohanlon.jpgThe top three Democratic White House hopefuls have faced withering criticism for refusing to commit to withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq by 2013, the end of the next presidential term. But at least one prominent war proponent is commending Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards for their newfound "flexibility."

Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow in foreign policy at the Brookings Institution and ubiquitous voice on Iraq war policy, spoke favorably of the Democratic frontrunners' recent statements on Iraq. In an interview with the Huffington Post, he touted the top-tier candidates for waiting to see the complete fallout of the President Bush's troop surge and for not committing to a war policy more than a year in advance.

"There is still fifteen months before [Clinton, Obama or Edwards] will be President. It's just factual that they cannot predict exactly what they are going to do in Iraq," O'Hanlon said. "I think the Democratic position allows all three of the top people to move in the Republican direction if things move around in the next twelve months... Clearly they aren't likely to do that unless things get dramatically better."

O'Hanlon -- whose New York Times op-ed with colleague Ken Pollack, entitled "A War We Might Just Win," was promoted enthusiastically by supporters of Bush's strategy -- acknowledged that his own views on Iraq fall well to the "right" of the Democratic field. But he praised the presidential frontrunners for resisting a firm pledge on Iraq withdraw, something consistently favored by the majority of Americans in public opinion polls.

"The only thing that would have concerned me would have been a repeat of 2003, where the populist's message of 'get out now' would overtake the Democratic Party... And low and behold we get to the election and Iraq is looking better and low and behold the Democrats lose the election," said O'Hanlon, who has given modestly in the 2008 cycle - two $200 contributions earlier this year to Senator Hillary Clinton.

O'Hanlon is a frequent target of war critics, who assail him for consistently advocating an aggressive U.S. policy in Iraq even after his previous predictions of success have proven false.

"Number one, before campaigns start taking the advice of Mr. O'Hanlon they should take a look at his track record on this issue," said former Rep. Tom Andrews, National Director of the Win Without War coalition. "Number two, most of us were very surprised that not a single one of the leading three Democratic candidates was able to give an emphatic and direct answer to that question. If you don't think you are going to have troops out by the end of your first term in office, then you have a fundamentally different idea of what is going on in Iraq and what is required to solve this catastrophe."

Despite generally agreeing that troops will remain in Iraq for the next six years, there are slight differences in the policies of the three Democratic frontrunners; although Andrews acknowledged that the differences are "murky." Obama has emphasized keeping troops in the region for diplomatic, humanitarian, and counterterrorism purposes. Clinton has talked about leaving combat troops in Iraq with the goal of fighting terrorism. Edwards, meanwhile, has stressed an immediate draw down of 40,000 to 50,000 troops, with a continual draw down soon thereafter.

"If you try to take the gist of the Democratic Party conglomeration, the message is, if things don't get a lot better we are going to limit our goals. We won't be doing as much patrolling, we are not going to be as willing to take casualties or bolster a political order," summarized O'Hanlon. "Whereas the Republican plan, if you were to aggregate it, would be that we continue downward on the Gen. Petraeus path, even beyond the plans he has for next summer."

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He's trying to make his "I'm neutral" chops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 10/17/2007
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 166 fans permalink

How did O'Hanlon get such influence in the first place? What military experience does he have?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 10/17/2007
- MetalPhil I'm a Fan of MetalPhil 2 fans permalink

What I think is really interesting about this is that we're talking about three candidates being pragmatic and it's being turned into "THEY WANT TO STAY IN IRAQ!1!11!1!"

The only person on that stage who said anything that remotely sounded to me like maintaining a war in Iraq was Hillary Clinton. John Edwards and Barack Obama both made it quite clear that they would be ending military operations and that the troops in Iraq would be there for protecting our embassy, protecting US interests, blah blah blah.

Now I know we all want our troops out of Iraq, sure, I don't deny that. But there's a level of pragmatism that I feel like we're missing a bit of on the left. We can't magically wish our troops home, so we'd better get comfortable with the fact that we're going to leave some behind for a while.

Of course, I'd rather we didn't do the Korea thing with Iraq, because as long as there are Americans in Iraq there will be attacks on Americans in Iraq. What we -REALLY- need to do is get the UN involved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 10/17/2007
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NONE of them said they "WANT TO STAY IN IRAQ". What each of them said, in their own words, was that they couldn't guarantee that we would be out by 2013. As much as I want us out as soon as possible, it would be totally reckless for a President to make a flat guarantee without having the ability to see into the future to know what might happen between now and then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 10/17/2007
- whomung I'm a Fan of whomung 4 fans permalink

Agree... Bush created hell on earth over there... It may take a while to figure it out, clean it up.... We can't just bail.....

But a clear change in mission and strategy are obviously called for

And, no matter what we do, NeoCancers are going to try to use it against us.... TI doesn't matter what, if they can fabricate or distort the truth in some way, they will --it's genetic.

Poor troops, poor Iraq....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 10/17/2007

No, it is very easy for the US to withdraw.
The Iraqi people are strong and smart enough to figure out their own problems.
It's not the 'white man's burden' to do it for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/17/2007
- RedRooster I'm a Fan of RedRooster 21 fans permalink

O'Hanlon has a constituency of one - himself.

He is a perfect example of what is wrong with Washington, the so-called main stream media, the pundit class, and the closet warmongers within the Democratic party who proclaim themselves "centrists".

He is a Bush apologist whose ideas about Iraq have proven false and now he's asking for a "do-over". What a loser!

Wake Up America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 10/17/2007
- slow2 I'm a Fan of slow2 10 fans permalink

KUDOS RedRooster! The MSM is merely a clutch of "Bush apologists."

We'd better wake up, before these apologists lead us trippingly into Iran and more.

Didn't we learn anything over the past months and years, with J. Miller and Kristol et al? Progressive does not translate to liberal; no one can or will win this war.

And, as someone said...center is typically the yellow line down the middle; if Democrats continue to hug that yellow line, there will be no progress -- out of Iraq, or away from Iran.

We are mired in this nasty Bush war and a strong, forward-thinking leader better emerge...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 10/17/2007
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 52 fans permalink
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who gives a sh..what he thinks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 10/17/2007

I don't give a fiddler's f#*k for what this yuppie punk thinks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 10/17/2007
- ajax2 I'm a Fan of ajax2 24 fans permalink
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The only commentator with a worst record on Iraq would be William Kristol. Praise from O'Hanlon is not a sign of strength.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 10/17/2007

Praise for Democrats? More a left handed compliment if you ask me. "...to move in the direction of Republican..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 10/17/2007
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

themo

Or, perhaps, "Damning with faint praise"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 10/17/2007
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

~ajax2~

ALL HAIL Wee Willie Kristol (as my hubby calls him)! Still batting a perfect .000!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 10/17/2007
- cognate I'm a Fan of cognate 8 fans permalink

The "New York money people" have seen to it that only candidates that have pledged allegiance to the neocon agenda are taken seriously by the mainstream media.

Ron Paul and the internet will help us throw off their yoke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 10/17/2007

Ron Paul has a big old yoke for pregnant women.

He will handle those uppity women who want to control their own body.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 10/17/2007

Your one issue vote will not matter Mistaken2....

I have heard many people invoke your handle, misconstrue2.
I have found out the new definition of it.

Misanthrope2=one issue voter.

Quote:

I was Misanthrope2 in 2000.

Meaning:
I was a one issue voter in 2000.

BWAHAHAHA! BWAHAHAHA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 AM on 10/20/2007

I love how everyone has already forgotten that the GOP's plan is just this - to keep us there until the next (Democrat) president takes over so that that person has to suffer what will be a horrible process for America.

As usual, us lefties are falling for it hook, line, and sinker. Not to mention playing right into Rovie's hands by supporting the most polarizing candidate in the field, effectively giving the GOP a chance where none would be had otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 10/17/2007

TheInsomniac, the Democrats have betrayed the USA. Pelosi refuses to impeach Bush and Cheney for their crimes. What don't you get about that my friend?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/17/2007

That is the cleverest reverse psychology attack
on Edwards I have seen so far.

What next? Show Edwards at the debate in a shot with the two sellout corporate warhawks, Obama and Hillary.

There have been a hundred at least Obama and Hillary articles and they did not work. Edwards is still winning in Iowa.

But attack Hillary and Obama for supporting the war, and you have to out in Edwards. Why not put Kucinich in the photo too? Is he too short?

Ass kissing chicken fuckers at Brookings want
a DLC president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 10/17/2007
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Actually, Edwards has dropped to third in Iowa. Even though they are all in a dead heat, the RCP average has Edwards LAST.

Obama has 31 offices in Iowa and the most organized and sophisticated team of all the candidates and even the Media had to concede to it.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/iowa-primary.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 10/17/2007
- MetalPhil I'm a Fan of MetalPhil 2 fans permalink

Go Kucinich! :p

Ok, fine, I'll settle for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 10/17/2007
- Hooray I'm a Fan of Hooray 2 fans permalink

"Obama has 31 offices in Iowa and the most organized and sophisticated team of all the candidates and even the Media had to concede to it."

And he's still in second place. Go Hillary

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 10/17/2007
- EinChicago I'm a Fan of EinChicago 37 fans permalink

So, when he comes in second in Iowa, which he will, what will your new excuse be then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 10/17/2007

Hi Chocolate, Otis here:) How ya doing?
Looks like we will be going to Dubuque to help.... Hope this is ther right Chocolate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 10/17/2007
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john edwards is a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 10/17/2007
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"john edwards is a joke."

And your pithy little comment is valid because?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 10/17/2007

I'm supposed to care what an A$$ licking, boot kissing war-mongerer thinks? I'm supposed to feel better that the dark sider likes a not-quite-as-dark-sider?

Sorry to offend Mr. O'Hanlon, but I prefer that the candidates care what WE THE PEOPLE think - not that they do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 10/17/2007
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 191 fans permalink
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O'Hanlon could have sweetened the deal by recommending

we impeach Bush and Cheney for bringing our soldiers

into Iraq in the first place.

Or tell us he has enlisted to served in the Army in Iraq.

One or both of the above would have proven just how progressive O"Hanlon really is at this point in time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 10/17/2007

Michael O'Hanlon is a Bush A$$ Kisser, a Chicken Hawk, and a 'liberal' interventionist.

The Monroe Doctrine is his Bible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 10/17/2007

That makes it OK for the Democratic frontrunners to give the finger to their base and the American electorate. Someone who's never been right on the war and is still wrong is in agreement with the 3 Democratic frontrunners -- two of whom voted for the war and one of whom voted for an amendment that gives impetus to Bush's desire to take military action against Iran. What great bi-partisanship on the part of the Democrats.

Progressives have a stronger desire to delude themselves into ignoring the Democratic frontrunners' refusal to commit to withdraw from Iraq by 2013 than to ending the war.

They are as complicit in murdering our families as Bush and Cheney are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 AM on 10/17/2007
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