Ellen's Dog Drama Day 2: "This Has Become So Insane"

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Ellen DeGeneres and the fight for Iggy, a dog she got from a shelter in September, and then gave to her hairdresser's family, continues on, at least on TV. After sobbing at the beginning of her show yesterday, Ellen again began the hour talking about the puppy.

The rescue shelter where Iggy came from took the dog back when they found out Ellen had given it away, claiming she had signed a document forbidding her to do so. After joking a little about how emotional she had been on Tuesday's show, Ellen sat down and again insisted the dog be returned to her hairdresser's family.

Meanwhile, the shelter insists the dog will not be returned to family and they will not be bullied by Ellen speaking out.

According to reports which surfaced after Ellen taped today's show, Iggy has already been placed in another home, which has left DeGeneres "shocked."

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- demsrnuts I'm a Fan of demsrnuts 5 fans permalink

The only fair thing here is to let Mike Vick adopt this animal !!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 10/17/2007
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The shelter's owner says that Portia is the one she went over the contract with, and that Portia sent her an email stating the dog wasn't working out for them.

How come Ellen is taking the blame? Could it be that Ellen avoids mentioning her girlfriend on the show because it would make all her "hausfraus" fans uncomfortable?

Slightly off topic, but it sounds like it was mosty the girlfriends' mistake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 10/17/2007

Oh please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 10/17/2007
- cindyw I'm a Fan of cindyw 44 fans permalink
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I don't watch her regularly, but I've heard her mention her girlfriend many times. Her lesbianism is certainly no secret. Obviously her "hausfrau" fans are comfortable with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 AM on 10/18/2007
- Cybesq I'm a Fan of Cybesq 26 fans permalink
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I love the no no nonsense "must follow law and order" conservative posts. These are some of the same people who call Ollie North a hero and probably wet their pants with excitement when Scooter Libby was pardoned.

You think the rules must be enforced? How much do you want to bet that the agency was required to change the name on the chip once Ellen paid for the dog? How about THAT rule?

Agreements have provisions in them all the time that are not enforceable. These heartless scumbags got the police involved only because they claimed ownership of the pet and allegedly proved it given the chip. Otherwise, the police don't go around enforcing the terms of civil contracts.

Common sense suggests that if the dog was in a good home it should have stayed there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 10/17/2007
- Dendroica I'm a Fan of Dendroica 30 fans permalink

So much misinformation and really bad judgment on many here.

Really good shelters, I mean the one's that give a damn, not the ones that buy puppies from mills so they can sell them (I mean "adopt them to customers", at several hundred dollars an animal, and you know who I'm talking about, NSAL...)ca­refully vet their animals out. I know, I've adopted three shelter cats in the last 5 years, including one really problematic cat who I've spent over a thousand dollars on vet bills just this year.

They really care about the animals first, the humans second.

You sign a contract, you'd better damn well live up to it. You broke the contract, you've lost your right to own that animal, period.

So the moral is, if you really want it, take good care of it. It's a living being, and it should become a member of the family, not a piece of furniture, or a fashion accessory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 10/17/2007

OT:

Dendro,
Long time no see. Welcome back.
- RIMR

P.S. Not that I agree with you on this one. Ellen WAS being responsible. ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 10/17/2007
- jackejett I'm a Fan of jackejett 2 fans permalink

Moms & Mutts are playing a cruel game at getting attention.

They are not animal lovers they are media whores.

jack jett

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 10/17/2007
- FlippyO I'm a Fan of FlippyO 9 fans permalink
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Moms & Mutts are media whores? Versus Ellen, who is using her TELEVISION SHOW as a platform to insist on getting her way? (to adopt a dog to a family that doesn't meet their criteria???) This isn't the first dog that she's given up. She tried for a whole 10 days with this dog. She didn't try all that long with the last dog. Perhaps if she was more responsible and chose dogs who aren't high energy dogs, she might be more successful at finding dogs that get along with her cats, so she wouldn't have to keep GIVING THEM AWAY.

My partner owns a small rescue. We have a contract that says that if the home where we've placed a rescued pet can't keep that pet, it must be returned back to us. It's for the safety of the pet. We spend lots of time & our own money rescuing these animals and we don't want them given away willy-nilly. It wasn't Ellen's right to give the dog away - it's part of the contract.

I agree that the whole situation has gotten out of hand, but it's ridiculous that a multi-millionaire with her own tv show is using her show to bully a small pet rescue, causing those people to get death threats. She doesn't seem at all concerned that her celebrity is ruining a small pet rescue, all because SHE broke the contract..­.and gave away ANOTHER dog. (Oh, and I just read that Portia adopted a French Bulldog, and Ellen made her give that dog away too, so the question now becomes, why did Moms & Mutts adopt to such a poor candidate in the first place???) Ellen has now given away at least three dogs. Can she be trusted to find them a good home when she can't even be trusted to *give* them a good home?

Maybe the family can go and save a dog from here - http://dogsindanger.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 10/17/2007
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 169 fans permalink
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After this public relation disaster, the "Shelter", Moms and Mutts, will soon change their corporate name.

Hopefully the press will inform the public of their new name, so people

wanting to bring a puppy or dog into their homes,

will NOT go to this agency but instead go to one of the many good ones. These

people should be OUT OF BUSINESS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 10/17/2007
- WIDESTANCE I'm a Fan of WIDESTANCE 3 fans permalink

right... so moms & mutts needs a new name... let me think ...

bitches & bitches?

c*nts & canines?

bitchs with hitchs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 AM on 10/18/2007
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 169 fans permalink
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All good choices...­..........­LOL

Compassionate Conservative Cannines

is currently at the top of their list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 AM on 10/18/2007
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

This thread alone defines libdumb nation to a "T".. It is never a libs fault , it is all about them. It takes a village . Never any personal responsibility. And never follow the rules. Thes animals come from a myraid of circumstance ; from horrific abuse , abandonment to just owners not able to care. The shelters do their best , sometimes better than human adoption agencies in placing their animals . They make it crystal clear their expectatio­ns.I had a dog that turned mean after a year and by contract we brought her back .The dog ended up having a mental disorder and could have mauled a child SIMILAR TO SAY A HAIRDRESSER'S KIDS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 10/17/2007
- jj I'm a Fan of jj 14 fans permalink

Choosing to use a non political story to validate a deranged obsession of hate for the left pretty much sums up conservatards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 10/17/2007
- T.Roll I'm a Fan of T.Roll 2 fans permalink

Yeah, jj, liberals never do that, do they? You new here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 10/17/2007
- Cybesq I'm a Fan of Cybesq 26 fans permalink
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What a surprise that an animal left in your care turned mean. Yes, I am sure it was a "mental disorder" that developed on its own after a year.

I am very sure that the reason that the rescue agency pulled the dog away from the hairdresser is the danger that the puppy could go psycho and hurt the children.

Brilliant republican reasoning, your antecdote substitutes for facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 10/17/2007
- WolfLarsen I'm a Fan of WolfLarsen 34 fans permalink

I would have thought a dog with a mental disorder would have fit right in with a conservative family.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 10/17/2007
- kittycago I'm a Fan of kittycago 5 fans permalink

This thread alone defines libdumb nation to a "T".. It is never a libs fault , it is all about them. It takes a village . Never any personal responsibility. And never follow the rules. Thes animals come from a myraid of circumstance ; from horrific abuse , abandonment to just owners not able to care. The shelters do their best , sometimes better than human adoption agencies in placing their animals . They make it crystal clear their expectatio­ns.I had a dog that turned mean after a year and by contract we brought her back .The dog ended up having a mental disorder and could have mauled a child SIMILAR TO SAY A HAIRDRESSER'S KIDS

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wow your really twisted in a knot politically aren't you?I am a liberal.I have adopted dogs.I have posted a rather lenghty opinion on Ellen's faux pas in a previous post.Read it and then regugitate your partisan lies please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 10/18/2007
- WolfLarsen I'm a Fan of WolfLarsen 34 fans permalink

Dogs with chips? Adoption agents, investigations and forms to determine if you are suitable to raise a dog? Contracts and legal papers to cement the deal? What is going on? I use to get my dogs from the pound to save their lives and give them a good home. Now it is like adopting a child only harder. I understand the need to put them in a good home but this level of red tape seems to discourage people from wanting to take on a dog and give it a good home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 10/17/2007
- Dendroica I'm a Fan of Dendroica 30 fans permalink

Some shelters have tougher standards. I've volunteered at one, and have adopted three cats from that one in the last three years. I wouldn't adopt from any other type. They are almost always no-kill, and they treat their animals much better than others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 10/17/2007

You people are nuts. Sure the rule is stupid. But you know maybe she should have READ the contract BEFORE she signed it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 10/17/2007

If you want to 'own' your pet...


avoid 'shelters'




The same thing happened to me... typically these are essentially doggie Auchwitz's­.. underfunding and it has a distinct effect on the way they treat PEOPLE. People who love animals these shelters should be grateful they are taking the animals, but OFTEN things like this happen.

I am glad Ellen's experience is highlighting what many of us have gone thru when trying to save one ofthese animals. They are often run by very mean people who have lost whatever compassion they once had for animals because they have to kill so very many. They are underfunded. I don't have the answers. But this is bad and common.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 10/17/2007
- Dendroica I'm a Fan of Dendroica 30 fans permalink

Dude, these types of shelters are no-kill.

Think before you post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 10/17/2007

The one that discriminated against me (the same day they killed 20 dogs) does kill. And it wasn't based on anything objective. The next day I got a dog directly from an owner with a jerk landlord and Star is still with me. So I was a good prospect and those jerks killed a dog that could have had a home.

The whole idea of "animal welfare" is angel on a pinhead nonsense. Dogs are personal property. Who invented dog 'adoption'? Liberalism gone insane. PC nightmare.

Go Ellen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 10/17/2007

Doggy Auchwitz's FAR EXCEEED 'no kill' shelters..­. that's true and I did say "TYPICALLY­".... So I stand by my original post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 10/17/2007
- psmarc93 I'm a Fan of psmarc93 9 fans permalink

I agree with Ellen that this an insane situation. The "rules" here seem to be more important than the dog or the families -- it's not rocket science, why couldn't the agency check out the hairdresser's family first, determine if that new family is suitable (which no one seems to doubt) and let the dog remain there? Any contract can be negotiated. Look, any business would never stoop so low as this adoption agency simply because SUCH BELLIGERANCE IS BAD FOR BUSINESS. Sure, they may have the "legal" advantage, but who wants to do business with an agency that judges you "unfit" and takes your dog back -- not because the dog is better off, not because the family is really unfit -- but simply because of fine print in a contract? I wouldn't. There are many much friendlier, more human places to do business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 10/17/2007
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psmarc93
"I agree with Ellen that this an insane situation. The "rules" here seem to be more important than the dog or the families -- it's not rocket science...­"
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I agree totally with your post. Seems to me the perfect solution would have been to just do a check on the family and make them pay whatever fees Ellen originally paid. There was no need to take possession of the dog if the family checked out OK. In doing it that way, Ellen would have probably reimbursed the family their adoption fee. She would have ended up paying for the dog twice which would make up for the fact that she violated the contract.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 AM on 10/18/2007

I'm very curious to know if the pet rescue org, actually inspected Ellens house before they placed the dog with her? How do they know if the animal is going to a good home? Just because someone filled out the proper paperwork does not make them good pet owners. Did they inspect the house of the new owners? How are they judging who is a good pet owner and who is bad??

If they couldn't find what they thought was a suitable home for the dog, would they have killed it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 10/17/2007

BINGO!


If the objective is SAVING DOGS.. then NO REASONABLE OFFER SHOULD BE REFUSED! Why are they always such jerks about it at animal shelters? What is wrong with the shelter people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 10/17/2007
- Dendroica I'm a Fan of Dendroica 30 fans permalink

Let me tell you a personal story.

We once had to evict a former employee, who was a pet collector. At the time of her arrest, she was housing 7 dogs, and 21 cats. She was advertising on the net for her pet care service, and was getting paid handsomely for grooming.

If you think this is unique, you are wrong. There are hundreds of cases like this, including one very recently about a millionaire couple that had dozens of cats in absolute squalor. It is a very common psychiatric condition.

Not everyone who is willing to take an animal, really cares for the animal. There are sick people out there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 10/17/2007
- dbushik I'm a Fan of dbushik 4 fans permalink

That there's a great lesson rainey. Not trying to be a jerk, but when exactly does this lesson have any bearing on your life? Are you often called on to trust Ellen DeGeneris? I seem to recall here being an entertainer or comendian or something.­..

If the dog has ultimately been placed in another home, where presumedly it will be kindly cared for, this distraction is pretty much over and done. Except for maybe DeGeneris appologizing to the the shelter for the attacks they've recently recieved as a result of this and calling on her viewers to reframe from being such idiots as to make death threats over this issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 10/17/2007
- cblcar I'm a Fan of cblcar 6 fans permalink

Someone should ask Ellen what happened to the French Bulldog puppy she bought for Portia last year that she then made Portia give away because it turned out not be convenient for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 10/17/2007

GO ELLEN!!


I hope she wins...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 10/17/2007
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