The New Yorker Celebrates, Spoils "The Wire"

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2007-10-18-TheWire.jpgDavid Remnick may be in love with "The Sopranos," but people who love "The Wire" are freaking obsessed with it, and the show and genius creator David Simon get a long and loving look by Margaret Talbot in this week's special Arts issue.

In such a huge piece — 11,000 words! Ye gads! — it's inevitable that Talbot would talk about plot. But a friend and Wire obsessive points out to me that the piece includes two spoilers, both without any warning. Per my Wire-loving friend:

"Two spoilers, no warnings. Both regarding the deaths of characters who are present in the very beginning of Season 1, and it is a big deal when each dies several seasons later. Neither was necessary to the piece. In one she could have just been less specific, in the other she was quoting a fan on a chatboard, could have not used the character's name - little would have been lost by it for the article's purposes. Or offered a spoiler warning at least. Bleh."

That "bleh" aptly expresses the feeling a fan has when reading about one's beloved series/movie/wildly anticipated children's book and encountering spoilers. These series/movies/books are written about so much precisely because they are the object of critical and/or fan appreciation; that aficionados are invested in the characters and the storylines is a given. So obviously, spoilers are less than appreciated. It's why the phrase "spoiler alert" was created.

But — and there's always a but! — when does the sacrosanct period of secret-keeping expire? What is the statute of limitations on spoiling? If I blurt out right now that Rosebud is a sled, how many of you will smack your heads in frustration? What if "Citizen Kane" was in its fourth season, had finally gotten some mainstream buzz after being an unwatched critical darling for the first three, and all of the sudden viewers were getting addicted to the show via DVD? (Yes, we know, the sled thing is at the end, but go with it.) Probably most of us know by now that Adriana bit it in the woods on "The Sopranos," since images of her scrabbling through leaves were everywhere after she was iced; that goes double for Joey Pants and Uncle Junior shooting Tony. (NB: I didn't watch the show, this is just from reading about it). So in this DVD era, what does a writer like Talbot and a magazine like the New Yorker owe a viewer/reader when writing about a show? I don't know; there are no codified written standards and there is often furious debate over what is actually required. I guess the minimum expectation would be "thought"; that is to say, that in writing about these intricate, operatic series in which so many people are clearly so invested, a writer might think about what he or she is giving away, and what those viewers do or don't want to know. The more unforgiving standard of what the reader/viewer ought to know is another thing entirely, and here a writer/magazine is obviously validated by the fact that such plot details have been published, distributed, and are clearly on the record. But where the question is, "how best can we serve our audience?" the answers are a little more complicated.

In other news, the ending of the article is really sweet and uplifting — and so on the record that I could link it in two places. But, I'll let you read it yourself.

Stealing Life: The Crusader Behind The Wire [New Yorker]

Related:
Harry Potter and the Debate Over Whether The New York Times Should Have Reviewed And/Or Spoiled It [HuffPo]

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- Rrhain See Profile I'm a Fan of Rrhain permalink

I have some friends for whom if you say, "There's a movie with a release date. There's a plot portrayed by actors who worked with a director," they'll shout, "AUGH! You've spoiled it!" At one point, I was talking with another friend about the Buffy universe and how Cordelia had migrated over to _Angel._ My friends were livid as they had been watching Buffy but had only made it through the first season or so. "Now we know she lives! You've spoiled it!"

At one point, again in a discussion of Buffy with the other friend, I mentioned, "It was the one were Willow went bad." Again, the look of horror on my other friends' faces. I pointed out to them: It's a show about the fight between good and evil. It lasted seven seasons. Of *course* every character is going to go bad at some point.

Me, I have never understood this attitude. How on earth can you possibly know if you want to go and see a piece of entertainment if you don't know something about it? It's themes? Get an example of how it explores those themes?

"But I don't want to know the ending!" Why not? A good story well told by engaging performers will never be spoiled just because you know the ending. It's why we have our favorite movies, plays, and books. Even though we know how they end, they still enchant us because they're good.

I guess there are some people for whom the only reason for their entertainment is the plot. Me, I want to see how well the plot is told. After all, there aren't that many plots in the world. I already know how it's going to end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 10/18/2007
- ReelBusy See Profile I'm a Fan of ReelBusy permalink

What a bunch of whiny people worried about their leisure time being "spoiled". I say after the shows original airing you wussies are on your own. Don't want it spoiled? Watch the first run. After that it's every man or woman for themselves. Waiting to watch a whole season at once on DVD? Then it's too f'n bad for you huh? By the way...Darth Vader is Luke's father, Norman Bates is his own mother and Fredo is the Corleone family traitor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 10/19/2007
- drblack See Profile I'm a Fan of drblack permalink

The wire is hands down the best cop show ever.
It is certainly the most realistic.
It is also one of the best shows ever made.
Unfortunately it takes intelligence to watch so it doesn't have the giant audience of "Reality " shows like survivor.
Nothing shows the futility, corruption and enrichment of bad guys of the Drug War like The Wire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 10/18/2007
- ErnestineBass See Profile I'm a Fan of ErnestineBass permalink


"The Wire", "Deadwood" and "Frontline" on PBS are the only three reasons to even own a TV.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 10/19/2007
- ReelBusy See Profile I'm a Fan of ReelBusy permalink

Add BURN NOTICE & MAD MEN to the list along with 30 ROCK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 10/19/2007
- radosh See Profile I'm a Fan of radosh permalink

Herewegoagain. It all comes down to whether you think TV shows, films and novels are meaningful works of art. Are they important enough to be appreciated and analyzed honestly, or are they merely products to be consumed? If you believe the latter, then you want to protect consumers from having an experience ruined for them. But if you believe the former, you have no choice but to discuss a work of art holistically. Indeed, it would be impossible to have a serious discussion about Citizen Kane without mentioning Rosebud -- and that's true whether it's 50 years later or the day it comes out. Rober Ebert once got people mad for giving away the big secret of The Crying Game, but he was absolutely right. If an actor's performance is important to a film, then you need to be able to discuss why that performance is interesting and effective. A "fan" who reduces a television series, film or novel to its plot points probably doesn't deserve the name.

Personally still waiting for season 3 of Lost to come out on DVD, but I don't imagine that knowing about any plot twists is going to ruin it for me. On the other hand, I'm also sensible enough not to read any 11,000 word articles about the friggin show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 10/18/2007
- Jelperman See Profile I'm a Fan of Jelperman permalink

How about more pictures of Rachel Sklar on HuffPo? I saw her on TV and WOW! -what a babe!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 10/18/2007
- doxyluv13 See Profile I'm a Fan of doxyluv13 permalink

You've got to expect an 11,000 word piece in the New Yorker to be thorough and include "spoilers". It's obviously wrong to spoil the plot of a movie or TV show in a contemporaneous review even though studio trailers and network promos often do the same thing. To ask the press to do more than that is dumb.
If "The Wire" is fragile enough to be damaged by the relevations of 2 deaths over 4 seasons, there isn't much to it anyway. Personally, I won't be watching the DVDs. I've tried to get into it several times over its run. To me it remains a cheap-looking soap opera that you have to have seen every episode of to give a shit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 10/18/2007
- NABNYC See Profile I'm a Fan of NABNYC permalink

I love The Wire, and all the terrific actors, writers, directors, story-lines. It is very much like Homicide, another terrific series. I have enjoyed each season, but: season 2 was an absolute heart-breaker. I have rarely seen such an amazing story about unions and working class americans desperately trying to hold on to their jobs, their families, their history, their community, and their entire industry, in the face of globalization and overwhelming forces working against them. It was kind of like On the Waterfront II, but without all the anti-union garbage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 10/18/2007
- FearlessFreep See Profile I'm a Fan of FearlessFreep permalink

I recall that when Pauline Kael reviewed the Stanley Kubrick movie THE SHINING back in 1980, she spoiled what she admitted was the scariest scene (involving the sentence "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy") in order to make the fancy closing point, "All work and no play makes Stanley a dull boy too." That struck me as arrogant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 10/18/2007
- FearlessFreep See Profile I'm a Fan of FearlessFreep permalink

I should have mentioned, I'm talking about her review published in THE NEW YORKER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 10/18/2007
- SevereTireDamage See Profile I'm a Fan of SevereTireDamage permalink

Once a work is in General Release, the need for spoiler sensitivity ends. Maybe give it another couple of weeks based on courtesy. But once an ending or whatever is out there, it's out there. You may disagree, but Rachel asked, and that's my answer.

An anecdote: It's the summer of '68, and I'm on my way to the local movie theater to see the just-out "Planet of the Apes". I arrive at the theater a bit early, and the previous showing is rolling credits, so I take the opportunity to use the men's room. A few minutes later, as I'm sitting in the stall, a father-and-son duo walk into the bathroom. Not being aware of anyone else in the bathroom (me being in a stall and all), the kid exclaims to Dad, "Wasn't it amazing when it turned out he was still on Earth?" I dropped my head and let out a soft chuckle.

And you know what? It didn't ruin the movie for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 10/18/2007
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