Demolition Derby

AP:

Front-runners Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney were forced to defend their conservative credentials by their campaign rivals Sunday night in the sharpest debate so far of the Republican presidential campaign.

"You've just spent the last year trying to fool people about your record. I don't want you to start fooling them about mine," Sen. John McCain jabbed at Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts.

Read the whole story: AP

Comments

[JoJoGunner]

Of course a lot of Dems don't like Hillary as a candidate, but if she wraps up the nom early and Obama and Edwards and Richardson endorse her - and if the Repubs savage each other for months and nobody over there is happy with the outcome - well it should make things easier for Dems to make a Grand Slam, House, Senate and White House come 08.

[JoJoGunner]

A Republican Demolition Derby would certainly be in the countrys' best interest. And it's likely to happen. No clear leader in the pack so they all think they can win it. Let them fight right down to the convention. Trash each other out boys - save the Dems the trouble.

[JoJoGunner]

Immediately after Tony Perkins announced the result of the FRC Action straw poll, in which Mitt Romney edged Mike Huckabee by 30 votes out of 5,775 cast, Huckabee boosters cried foul - and reporters peppered Perkins with questions about the legitimacy of the poll.

I don't see why Slick Mitt the Flip Flopper would have beat Huckleberry the True Believer. Maybe he cheated???

[MalloMel]

This is off topic, too. But, I wonder how many votes Jesus would get if he came down and ran for president? I don't think he'd get very many, and if he counted on the right wing Christian conservatives, he'd definitely be out of luck, and probably would be better off hiding.

[robodweeb]

Jesus: Wrong on loving your enemies, wrong for America.

Jesus: Wrong on taxes, wrong for America.

Jesus: Wrong on attaining wealth, wrong for America.

[dcotter]

Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for life
surely not a liberal ideology. From cradle to grave for you twits.

[Firaxis]

Earlier, I asked what has Hillary ever run, what major legislation has she ever sponsored and what isssue has she ever lead on?

So far, nobody has risen to the challenge of actually answering the question.

As Rudy said last "Hillary says she has a million ideas, but America can't afford them."

So what is Hillary's proposed taxpayer giveaway for this week?

[turningpoint]

When you finally log off the Intelligence Quotient of this blog will raise by 30 points from that act alone.

[turningpoint]

Hillary, Bill, Hillary, Bill, Hillary, Bill....ho­w fucking boring. And Schtupid.

[robodweeb]

No, Hillary has no history of shoving plungers up some one's ass.

At least, not that we know of.

How long have you been a student of Hillary's legislative record?

[robodweeb]

Washington, DC - Today on Capitol Hill, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) joined with advocates for wounded soldiers and their families to announce a new legislative initiative, co-sponsored by Senator Susan Collins (R-ME), to improve the detection, assessment and treatment of traumatic brain injury and expand support systems for members and former members of the Armed Services with traumatic brain injury and their families.

Senator Clinton also announced introduction of legislation to help ensure wounded soldiers receive the disability benefits they need and deserve and to further protect military family financial benefits.

[robodweeb]

"Her latest legislative initiative: a privacy bill of rights to protect people's personal data, which is sure to appeal across the political spectrum."

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/11/06women_Hillary-Rodham-Clinton_DFBA.html

[Thalia]

John Bolton is now saying that US foreign policy is in a freefall.

Even the loons are finally seeing it.

I guess this now makes Bolton a liberal.

[robodweeb]

He's a phony who's head has been filled with liberal lies.

[ronspri]

No he's a treasonous America hater that wants us to lose. Just like Generals Sanchez, Eaton, Batiste, Zinni et al.

[kay]

Off topic, but I must run.

Are conservatives nervous that a former US Attorney announced to a packed meeting this weekend that he thinks Gonzales is being referred for indictment?

That the fired US attorney testified for 8 hours in June, on Gonzales, and he says Gonzales lied under oath?

That Gonzales has hired...co­mpetent counsel (nothing but the best when conservative crooks need a lawyer!) and is refusing to cooperate with the investigation?

How many conservative prosecutors were "pleasuring" the President, and how many Americans are currently serving prison terms for political crimes against The Party?

[Thalia]

If I'm not mistaken, Kay, lying under oath ain't the crime it used to be, at least to Repubs.

You know, like how criticism of men in uniform went from being a condemnation worthy/free speech and press destroying thing to being a means of fundraising and praise?

[dcotter]

You believe taking words out of context makes for slandering troops.
Liberals always do that.
your just pissed because that 4 million is going to help troops families and we just can't have that.

[olivia]

Why don't they ask these candidates to talk about something important, instead of other consenting adults' sex lives? How about what happened to Lt. Commander Matthew Diaz after he told what happened at Guantanamo Bay?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/magazine/21Diaz-t.html?ref=magazine

And why doesn't HuffPo feature this story from today's NY Times?

[digitalcommando]

ron paul is an honest intelligent guy surrounded by ignorant self-serving bullshitters.

[olivia]

This is what Republicans have done, and what they continue to support. They make me sick.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/20/international/asia/20abuse.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[Thalia]

Bushies are probably jerking off to this. It excites them.

[VOTER]

Look at the small stage for these Family Values Guys.

There wasn't enough room for them and ALL OF THEIR

WIVES...CU­RRENT AND THE NUMEROUS FORMERS. LOL

[Firaxis]

Thalia, speaking of Rush Limbaugh, the man who raised 4.2 million dollars for the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Fund, where are the contributions from Harry Reid and Hillary and the like who signed an unprecedented document which had sitting senators trying to silence a private citizen ?

Talk about suppression of free speech.

Utopian totalitarians (liberal democrats) are afraid of differe=ing opinions.

[robodweeb]

Could you detail Harry Reid's and Hillary Clinton's charitable donations for us since you seem to have all of the inside info?

[Thalia]

Lol.

Yes, Rush in a typical perversion, instead of apologizing for his vile comments, did what Repubs do best: turned their causing of misery to others into a financial windfall.

Yes, Limbaugh may have managed to buy his way out of how he'd slandered US soldiers.

And yet, he supports this policy that is getting them killed.

You are too stupid to see the cynicsm and sinister nature of what Limbaugh did with that. It wasn't about helping military. It was about trying to make a fool out of Harry Reid.

When are you morons going to wak e up andrealize this country is being held hostage (and troops are getting killed, among others) to the right-wing's irrational war against the American left?

You can't wake up to it; you're a soldier in that war.

Really sad.

[Firaxis]

So, you support the liberal democrats who tried to use the power of the United States Senato to silence a private citizen.

Again, you are very smart and you know that his words were definitely taken out of context.

Why do you feel the need to use dishonesty to win a debate? Please explain.

[sgtjiggs]

Well, if the American left wasn't so damn goofy, then we wouldn't have to slap them around as much as we do.

[conservativeoriginalist]

"Rush in a typical perversion, instead of apologizing for his vile comments, did what Repubs do best: turned their causing of misery to others into a financial windfall."

In THIS instance, it was Hillary's Media Matters that caused all the misery (she publicly stated she had a hand in its inception). As far as a windfall, a CHARITY is what wins, not Limbaugh.

Limbaugh, though not a veteran, has a LONG track record of supporting the troops, in word and action. One statement is taken, misconstrued, and is supposedly credence enough to destroy his past decade of indisputable support of our service members.

Conversely, let's look at those pointing fingers at Limbaugh:

"[American service members are] terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the - of - the historical customs, religious customs." - John Kerry, Face the Nation, December 4, 2005

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings." - Dick Durbin, June 14, 2005

"I believe...­that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything" - Harry Reid, April 2007

"But you're going to spend [federal money] to blow up innocent people if we can get enough kids to grow old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the president's amusement.­" - Representative Pete Stark

"There was no fire fight. There was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood." - John Murtha, May 17, 2006, before a formal investigation began on the so-called "Haditha Massacre" (which all but one of the accused has been acquitted of to date)

Just a few examples of Democrats "supporting the troops" while chastising others for supposedly urinating on the service members.

[Thalia]

Btw, let me hear you come right out and say you have no problem with Limbaugh having likened a soldier who was wounded by a suicide bomber TO suicide bombers.

AND

that he is too stupid to be able to think and speak for himself.

Let's hear you say how good that was of the soldier-supporting Limbaugh.

You can't.

And you notice you don't see the money thing as an act of contrition on Limbaugh's part. No, you also, like Limbaugh, are cynical and see it as a successful tool against Harry Reid.

Ergo, you continue to use soldiers and Limbaughs vile remarks simply to go after Democrats.

What you also don't see is that the greatest diversion in America now IS the right's war against the left. They keep fools like you fighting it, and they're destroying this country while you're getting some childish jollies taking aim at liberals and Democrats.

Its' YOU they're laughing at, Stupid.

[Firaxis]

The "war" began with the demoquislings trashing the reputations of John Tower, Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.

In 1994, after losing the Congress, Daschle and Gephardt held a meeting and decided that their strategy would be to "go negative" 100% of the time. They were out of power after 40 years and proceeded to act like spoiled children.

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Your convenient memory lapses are showing again.

[Trollstakeyourmeds]

And this is related to this thread, how? Distract, deflect, deny.

[dcotter]

I called Dick Durbin's office and demanded as his constituent that he match the donation. Think it'll happen?

[robodweeb]

I don't think a senator earns as much as a water carrier.

[PollM]

.
With the exception of Ron Paul most GOP Rivals Argued who's Most Conservative, Ron Paul As he has before, spoke passionately against the war in Iraq. But he also accused his Republican rivals of being for big government. "Our big-government conservatives, they're part of the neo-conservative movement.

Who won the Orlando, Florida Republican debate?
---> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=765.

[SCLib]

Who won? Who CARES????

[Pdubya]

if you don't care, you don't want your civil liberties.

[kay]

Now that all but one of the conservative candidates have admitted that climate change is a serious problem, do you think they'll offer a solution?

Better late than never, I suppose, although an admission that they were ALL wrong about it for almost ten years might be...honor­able.

Or are we going to continue to deflect and dodge with attacks on Al Gore?

When do we get to the "ideas" part of the Party Of Ideas?

As far as I can tell, it's all personal attacks, all the time.

[Firaxis]

John Stossel blew Algore out of the water on his fictitious movie "An Inconvenient Truth".

If mankind can control global cooling or warming, please explain the Ice Age and how "mankind" subsequently melted all that ice?

Gimme a break!!!

Firaxis for President.

Evict the U.N.

[Thalia]

have you ever noticed that you rely heavily on slogans and cliches a lot?

Global warming is not disputed except in circles who are more interested in bashing Gore personally just because he's a Democrat.

And btw, I don't see you exerting the same kind of energy and passion over Bush's actually having been completely wrong about everything regarding Iraq, let alone his ignoring all those warnings which led to 9/11, things that did and are getting people killed daily.

But go ahead, spend time on Gore and nitpick at trivial things in the movie, because as we know, Bush can make all kinds of disastrous mistakes, but a democrat can't sneeze the wrong way without you loons going off the deep end and declaring them totally discredited and crazy.

Snore.

[consrevil]

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Bring Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan.

WZ

[PODdem]

ANOTHER FAMILY VALUES GUY WPO STORY

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR2007102101643.html?hpid=features1&hpv=national
Low Road to Splitsville
Right-Wing Publisher's Breakup Is Super-Rich In Tawdry Details

By David Segal
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, October 22, 2007; Page C01

PITTSBURGH



(By Kate Robertson For The Washington Post)
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Looking for a perfect little weekend vacation this fall? Here's a travel tip you don't hear very often: Head to Pittsburgh. Right away.

Seriously, get in the car and read this story later, because when you're done reading, you'll wish you'd left 10 minutes ago. There are towns with better vistas, sure, and there are getaways with more sunshine. But only Pittsburgh is the scene of the fabulously tawdry and surpassingly vicious spectacle that is the divorce of Richard Mellon Scaife.