Flashback: Rudy Said He Would Personally Marry His Gay Roommates

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First Posted: 10-22-07 11:11 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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From the New York Times, 8/4/01:

For the past two months Rudolph Giuliani has been coming home at night to one of the happiest marriages in New York.

That's how long the mayor, in flight from his own marital wreckage at Gracie Mansion, has been a frequent sleepover guest at the home of Howard Koeppel and his partner, Mark Hsiao. Mr. Koeppel, who is 64, is a Queens car dealer who has been both a close friend and prodigious fund-raiser of Mr. Giuliani's since 1989. The 41-year-old Mr. Hsiao is a Juilliard-trained pianist who works at the city's Department of Cultural Affairs. They've been together almost 10 years -- are registered with the city as domestic partners -- and in happier times for the Giuliani marriage, double-dated with the mayor and Donna Hanover on New Year's Eve. Now they are doting hosts to Mr. Giuliani as he juggles his raucous divorce, his recovery from prostate cancer treatments, his waning months in office, his romance with Judith Nathan, his post-public-life future and, last but hardly least, his search for an affordable Manhattan apartment rental of his own.

The mayor's progressive record on gay civil rights notwithstanding, he has not endorsed same-sex marriage. But, says Mr. Koeppel, ''He did tell us that if they ever legalized gay marriages, we would be the first one he would do.'' Mr. Koeppel and Mr. Hsiao are in favor of the right to marry -- which, among other things, would give gay couples the same protections as heterosexual couples in legal and fiscal matters ranging from immigration and adoption rights to veterans' and Social Security benefits.

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- hmmmmmer I'm a Fan of hmmmmmer 29 fans permalink

I am sorry to say this and I hope that some don't take this personally, but there is no way on God's green Earth that a drag queen will be the next president unless the religious right get more deranged than they already are. Gosh, I guess that could be a possibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 10/22/2007
- JohnJames I'm a Fan of JohnJames 120 fans permalink

I hope the fundies don't start seeing pictures like this until AFTER he gets the nomination. Anyone who's ever listened to Dobson knows that nothing freaks them out more than gender transgression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 10/22/2007
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The head of the FBI, however, is a different matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 10/22/2007
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9-11 was a "Faith-Based Initiative".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 10/22/2007
- JohnJames I'm a Fan of JohnJames 120 fans permalink

So is our war in the Middle East from a fundie point of view - preparations for the Rapture. Chimp/Cheney haven't told them it's really about oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 10/22/2007
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Oh, that Rudy! He'll say ANYTHING to get elected!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 10/22/2007

WOW, I wasn't a Rudy supporter before, but WOW Rudy you are HOTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU GO GIRL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/22/2007
- souris I'm a Fan of souris 11 fans permalink
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.......will Rudy arm-wrestle Judith to see who will be the FIRST LADY???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 10/22/2007
- zachman I'm a Fan of zachman 10 fans permalink

Politicians can try and legislate homosexuals away until their faces turn blue, but it'snot going to change the fact that we exist and we will continue to exist and live in this country as long as we want.
By the way, Rudy, don't ever don drag again. It's an insult to every drag performer out there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/22/2007
- konchster I'm a Fan of konchster 4 fans permalink

How about a constitutional amendment against divorce that seems to affect the sanctity of marriage a helluva lot more than gays do

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 10/22/2007
- unclebucky I'm a Fan of unclebucky 70 fans permalink

Divorce and spousal abuse, commuting to work 2 hours in one direction, nosy in-laws, ARM-type mortgages, new car purchases, internet cheating, prostitutes, drugs, gambling, and military service.

Anyone have any other threats to marriage?

Ugh.

--UB.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 10/22/2007

Backing the Dallas Cowgirls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/22/2007
- ariuszme I'm a Fan of ariuszme 7 fans permalink

Rudy Giuliani is crazy, a liar, a hypocrite, and flip flopper catering to the retards of the religious right.

But make no bones about it. Rudy would be one fucking dangerous president. Those stupid shits better wake up and really pay attention.


10:16am pt= Arnold is giving a press conference right now on the massive fires in Caleeforneya

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 10/22/2007

What head of state, or official from another country would ever respect Jules? This photo and others like it are out there for the entire world to laugh at.

I'd laugh at Jules too, but he's not the least bit amusing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 10/22/2007

Well, Giuliani did seem to enjoy wearing those dresses just a little too much. And you have to admire a man with his looks who gave it a shot and tried to look good as a woman. However, this pandering to the Revival Tent Republicans is a vote loser.

The GOP is turning into Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show. What made Rudy unique and a breath of fresh air for the GOP has turned into a public ass kisssing of Dobson and his minions. Totally unacceptable.

Rudy doesn't know when to shut up. Not only did he lose Alabama and Mississippi, he also just lost more moderate votes for 08. While gay marriage isn't in the cards for a long time, neither is a constitutional amendment banning it. Santorum's loss in PA and Blackwell's in OH are what's in store for the GOP in 08.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 10/22/2007

Rudy is just another GOP closet case. Hey, how do you like all the 'free' promo Rudy gets because he is personal buddies with Roger Ailes (FOX CEO-who looks like Jabba the Hut). Yep, they're making Rudy out to someone he's not (just like they do all GOP Pukes)...but mark my words, Big Oil & Big Media (Pukey Ruppie Murdoch) will MAKE CERTAIN that Rudy is prez so they can keep rollin in the dough -because you know, billions in profits aren't enough for these GOP pukes who have sold their souls to Satan for $$$$

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 10/22/2007
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 402 fans permalink
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Republicans don't "flip flop".
They "re-evaluate their positions".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 10/22/2007

Their positions are constantly "Evolving". Apparently for people who don't believe in evolution they are quick to accept an evolving thought process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 10/22/2007
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When these dick heads know they can't win an issue.... it's Constitunial Ban time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 10/22/2007

Is this considered a flip flop or an evolving position?? How is one different from the other??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 10/22/2007

LAST NIGHT HE SAID THAT HE THOUGHT THAT ALL THE 210 CEREMONIES (WEDDING)HE PREFORMED WERE BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMEN....LEFT WIGGLE ROOM DIDN'T HE???? LET ME BE HONEST WITH YOU, CAN'T FEEL A THING YET CAN YOU ?? PLEASE PEOPLE, DON'T BE STUPID AGAIN....I STILL LOVE YOU BERNIE...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 10/22/2007
- unclebucky I'm a Fan of unclebucky 70 fans permalink

When will we hear this from the struggling, fuming and hopeless Neo-GOP front runners:

* "I bet if they round all of them up, then we would see a return to law and order in this country!"

* "If we could send all of them to Exodus at once, then we would see less perversion and child pornography in the media!"

Yeah, GOPers, why not pull ALL OF THE STOPS out and let's see you blaring at full volume? Go ahead, say what the Fundies REALLY WANT YOU TO SAY...!!!

* "I bet if they shot a coupla two three gays somwheres important, then you would see less immorality in the streets."

Read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard

Pray:
http://puffin.creighton.edu/jesuit/andre/shepard.html

Ugh.

--UB (also cross-posted for you-know-why)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 10/22/2007
- JohnJames I'm a Fan of JohnJames 120 fans permalink

Gary Bauer, the guy who looks like he has fetal alcohol syndrome and ran against Bush in 2000 for the Repub nomination, spoke at the Values Debate. He's also a Dominionist. They work for a time when laws can be passed that will make homosexuality a capital offense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 10/22/2007

Our country has more important things to be concerned about than a cross dressing guy that is running for Prez.
Like this for instance:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071105/baker_federman

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 10/22/2007
- unclebucky I'm a Fan of unclebucky 70 fans permalink

Rootie Tootsie: I despise gays more than Mitt Romney ever did after he started despising them.

Romormoni: I despise gays more than Rudy Giuliani before he started despising them.

Split Screen (Rootie and Mitzie): I/I despise/hate fa$$ots/qu$$rs/ma$$cones/pu$$tas more than HE does! I/I am/am in/in favor/support of supporting/writing the best/finest anti-homosexual/anti-queer amendment to the US Constitution/THAT PIECE OF PAPER!!! A/A vote/vote for/for me/me is/is a/a vote/vote against/against all/all gays/gays!

It is an arms race of words... :(

What kind of Country is this anymore?

Ugh.

--UB (Cross-posted for you-know-why)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 10/22/2007
- Pdubya I'm a Fan of Pdubya 44 fans permalink

the ONLY candidate who said they support ANY social or economic right to express personal civil liberties (including gay civil union) is Ron Paul. He is against ANY Federal mandate, including gay marriage (a religious act..separate church and state people), abortion, war on drugs, capital punishment, etc.

WAKE UP! He holds the constitution more dear than his personal views on two subjects, because he does not want the President of the Executive Branch deciding what is best for all. He believes what is best for all should be decided by individuals.



http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org/storage/afagenda/documents/AFA%20Act%20text.pdf

Write and call your representatives to help get this bill passed.

Only when the naivity and obstanance of the American people subside less than the elites want us to example, will we then elect a person that will do his or her's best to protect all individual liberties.

I know Ron Paul personally. My signature should at the very least signify that his position on federal mandates will protect all of us.

blue dog dem atheist for ron paul

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 10/22/2007
- JohnJames I'm a Fan of JohnJames 120 fans permalink

Libertarians always talk a good game on civil liberties and that's all it ever amounts to - talk. In the end they care about one thing and one thing only - taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/22/2007
- unclebucky I'm a Fan of unclebucky 70 fans permalink

Only problem is that Ron Paul is a selfish, cowardly Liberatarian* in GOP skins.

Ugh.

--UB.

* Libertarian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
(Individual freedom, no taxes, no government, no community, no social relations--just a bunker out in Wyoming with 50 years of food and water--alright, I am exaggering...

25 years)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/22/2007
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This message was sponsored by the Libertine States'-Rights Anti-Choice Protectionist Nationalist Anarchy Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 10/22/2007
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LOL. Woody Allen would do an excellent job of putting your post on film.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 10/22/2007
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