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Below is an interactive Google map, courtesy of the LA Times, of the southern California wildfires. After you click on the map to enlarge it, click on the fire icons or links on the sidebar to get the latest news on different fires.
You can find the original map at this link.
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To all you freaks out there bagging on people who live in California: I was born and raised in California. I now live in America's heartland because I married a farmer. We've got plenty of wide open spaces out here for you and your ilk. C'mon on out! Oh by the way we have tornadoes, hail the size of baseballs, flooding, ice storms, prairie winds that can blow you away if you're not tied down, sub-zero temperatures and above 100 temperatures. Like bugs the size of golf balls? We got 'em! We also have sky-high insurance rates because of all the weather-related risks. If you think you can find a place to live where there aren't risks, rots 'o' ruck.
may the wind change may the rain fall lightly upon your foot hills and quench the thirst of your land may your people give freely to one another in this time of need and may you all remain safe and sound
may the words spoken by our government be honored
promises made may they be kept for to gather we stand divided we shall surly fall good luck to sunny so California may your needs be fulfilled may you keep hope alive for a better tomorrow I say these things for my fellow Americans with a humbled heart
Peace from Utah
Given that a number of these fires, if not most of them, were arson, why is it not a clear case of terrorism? Why isn't the government treating it as such and going after it with the same zeal and vigor as when it fights its so called "war on terror"?
These arsonists are at it every year, same time, same thereabouts. Billions lost, millions evacuated, thousands made homeless, insurance premimums go up for everyone. You tell me why this common, recurring, expanding danger to our way of life is any less serious than the one time 9/11. Oh, do you mean to tell me it's not an act of terrorism if it's not committed by foreign criminals with strange names?
This map is updating more frequently....
http://lang.dailynews.com/socal/editorial/inter/wildfires/socal.html
It isn't bad enough that we are burning up out here in Southern California; now Bush is going to complete the disaster by sending in his FEMA.
god i hope black water does not show up and too California I am sending thoughts of rain coming from the west from the ocean not to much just enough to put out the fires but no flash floods or mud slides any one can help with the vision be of one mind good luck sissy in long beach stay safe
Huh...could someone tell Bush to stay away. We're doing well enough without him. I believe the people of New Orleans were first in line.
God bless you pencil pusher
A disaster is a disaster and it doesn't matter who is involved. If this situation proves one thing it is that every human regardless of where they live, ethnic background, or economic status is subject to the vicariousness of nature. Everyone one of us could be subject to the trials and tribulations facing the people of Southern California. It also serves to demonstrate the idiocy of statements made by the right wing noise machine that people who live in flood zones should expect floods and we somehow should not live in places prone to natural disasters. If we used avoidance of natural disaster as a criteria for where people can and cannot live, most of the world would become uninhabitable owing to floods, tsunamis, earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, slope instability, and fires. California, according to some, is one of the most desirable places in the country to live. If we use avoidance of natural disaster as a criteria for habitability, much of the state becomes uninhabitable. As a practical matter, complete avoidance of natural disasters is simply impractical so what is required is an ability for the government to respond to natural disasters when they occur. Help in times of natural disaster is one of the significant rolls government is supposed to play in our society. Since the GOP has turned the government into a hollow shell, it will be interesting to see how it responds to this latest disaster. The first responders as usual will perform admirable and the government will do everything it can to deflect the fact that support for the affected people will be less than adequate. It will be also be interesting to see how the insurance industry responds since fire is covered by homeowners insurance and they won't be able to easily weasel out of paying claims for damages as they did with water damage along the gulf.
My sympathies to those facing danger and great loss.
The map and numbers are very old.
Right now there are about 1,250 homes lost, with 500,000 people displaced.
It's one thing to have hateful thoughts that lack compassion, but it is quite another to post those thoughts. You people that are suggesting that these fires struck the deserving, or that somehow being rich and white (which is a stupid generalization to make) means people are less deserving of compassion are fucking monsters. May you never face the horrors that the folks in Southern California are facing. And, more importantly, keep you sick garbage to yourselves.
I wish all the best to Californians at this difficult time.
Sadly, these fires are representative of events that point out our weaknesses as a society. Lots of money for war, little will be available for infrastructure and disaster.
Over-population is at the root of this problem. When are we going to recognize this and do something about it??? There are many areas that just cannot support suburbia and all it brings with it. Technology cannot solve all these problems. Do what you can as an individual and do it NOW. Maybe living in the city is not so bad..give up the commute, settle for a smaller space..and only ONE child!
If you build a house on the gulf coast expect gulf storms.
If you build in the CA hills expect brush fires.
Just because you put a house there is no reason to expect any change
So white and so rich... yea, that about covers it
Sounds like compassionate conservatism to me. Not everyone is rich and white out here you insensitive jackass.
vieveter -- Clearly you do not live in California, nor do you posses any actual or factual knowledge about the state. Los Angeles (and our neighboring counties) and San Diego are extremely diverse in terms of ethnicity and race, and also in terms of economic status. while many of the areas burning are occupied by upper-middle to high income individuals, a greater number of those areas are middle to lower income.
Per your comment about natural disasters -- everyone is subject to the possibility, be it floods, earthquakes, blizzards, droughts, hurricanes, tsunamis, typhoons, tidal waves, tornados...the list goes on.
But it is only among the lesser evolved, the pathetically cruel, cynical, or vicious among us who relish the thought of the suffering of others There are a lot of sick freaks in this country.
Does it matter what color someone is or how much money they have? I live in an affluent area and we're blue-collar. I'm in one of the smaller, older homes here and I'm surrounded by multi-million dollar houses and you know what? A lot of my neighbors are elderly. Some folks who live here just bought at the right time and are blue-collar folks. There are firefighters, longshoremen, engineers, artists, small business owners and people from a wide variety of backgrounds. They guy across the street is in his early 90s and is a retired engineer. is it OK if his house burns because it is worth a million and he's white?
I'm not in a burn area this time and on satellite pictures, there's no big smoke cloud over us. I'm OK and so are my neighbors. We had a fire here a couple of years ago that thankfully did not take any structures, though it came very close to a friend's house (three houses separated her's from the flames). That friend is black. Would it have been OK for the white folks to lose their homes and sad for her to lose hers, though it is probably worth close to $2M?
Tragedy is tragedy. Skin color, politics and economics should not factor into it. Anyone who loses a home experiences a tragedy,, whether that house is a double-wide or a mansion. It's easy to categorize people based on a zip code or a home value. Way too easy.
Where do you live, Vietveter, that you are completely out of mother nature's way? Wherever it is, you'll probably soon have to move given the changing climate and weather patterns. Good luck with that, numbskull.
You simply get chills every time you see these evacuees - so many of these people, almost all of them that we see, are so rich and so white
AWFUL, AWFUL.
My thoughts go out to the families as I watch my future vacation plans get toasted.
They're fine...
"The people are happy. They have everything here," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared Monday night after his second Qualcomm tour.
So sayeth Arnold The Ass.
We are NOT fine!!!!
You cannot imagine what hell it is here.
It is extremely inhumane for anybody to be making jokes about us right now.
The crap I have read on the main thread is enough to make me vomit.
You're a douchebag.
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First Posted: 10-23-07 01:55 PM | Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM