Gov't Auditors Warned Bush Administration About Poor Firefighting Plans

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First Posted: 10-24-07 02:10 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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As firefighters continue to risk their lives battling the inferno in southern California, evidence is growing that the Bush administration is not adequately prepared to support them.

The Government Accountability Office, Congress's nonpartisan auditor, issued stark warnings earlier this year on shortcomings in the administration's plans to fight fires.

2007-10-24-fire.jpgIn a June report, the GAO report faulted the U.S. Forest Service, Department of Agriculture, and other agencies for failing to accomplish the "fundamental step" of planning out what assets and resources were needed to prepare for approaching fire seasons. Meanwhile, disaster response problems that have become all too familiar in recent years were also identified: administration officials placing resources where they were politically expedient, and using poorly performing contractors to accomplish critical national tasks.

Strong evidence of the specific federal government failures were provided by the Orange County Register this morning. The paper faulted federal planners for erecting red tape that prevented the use of more DC-10 airplanes to drop flame retardant on areas that were on fire.

"It would be nice to have more such planes available, don't you think?" an editorial in the paper asked. "If the federal government had had its way, even this one almost certainly wouldn't be flying this week....One can understand a certain amount of caution from the Forest Service, but this is bureaucratic overkill."

Robin Nazarro, the Director of GAO's Natural Resources and Environment program, told the Huffington Post why the Forest Service's planning has been inadequate.

"If you don't have goals and strategies for carrying them out, you're in a reactive mode rather than a proactive mode," the report's lead author said. "They say they are using 5 to 10 year averages, but each year the fires gets worse, so they're always underestimating what they need."

The report shows that the Bush administration was warned that the approximately $3 billion spent each year on fire prevention and suppression was not being used appropriately.

"Agencies have not yet improved their systems for determining the appropriate type and quantity of firefighting assets needed for the fire season or for effectively and efficiently procuring them," the GAO states.

The bad planning by the agencies even raised red flags in the White House, where the report's authors say that the President's Office of Management and Budget "told us they would not allow the firefighting agencies to publish long-term funding estimates until the agencies had sufficiently reliable data on which to base those estimates."

The GAO also criticized federal agencies for deploying costly firefighting resources "in response to political or social pressures."

"[F]irefighting assets may sit idle at a fire rather than be released for use elsewhere because managers are concerned that they will be unable to recall an asset if they need it later, or air tankers may drop flame retardants when on-the-ground conditions may not warrant such drops," it warns.

Other problems, the GAO notes, involve private contractors, a common malady in the Bush administration. The Forest Service has turned to national contractors that can deploy firefighting crews and aviation resources anywhere in the nation, but a failure to ensure accountability has resulted in poor performance.

"[R]equirements varied from contract to contract and did not ensure that the agencies obtained the most cost-effective assets," it reported. "Further, inadequate administration and oversight of the agreements by the agencies resulted in poor contractor performance and high rental rates."

Nazarro also highlighted the lack of skilled managers within the Forest Service in particular.

"They don't have enough managers trained in whether to engage in fire use or to suppress," the GAO researcher said. "They need 300 managers, but they're short, with fewer than 100 now, and only another 100 being trained."

Members of Congress blasted the Bush administration's firefighting planning this past summer after the GAO report's release. During a June hearing, Senator Bingaman warned that Bush had focused on cutting budgets in place of adequately preparing for wildfires.

"The Administration's budgets indicate that it believes that containing wildfire costs must come at the expense of preparedness," argued Bingaman, chairman of the Senate energy committee. "Its fiscal year 2008 budget proposes a nearly $90 million cut in the preparedness account. But starving the preparedness, wildfire suppression, and other Forest Service programs is not an effective or efficient strategy to contain those costs."

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- Wilburrr I'm a Fan of Wilburrr 16 fans permalink
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Hey San Diego!

Don't look now, but that wildland fire crew saving your house? It's made mostly of illegal aliens...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 10/24/2007

Trolls in meltdown.

crYstal on sale for $1.99/gallon box.

We all know what that means!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 10/24/2007
- Turnip I'm a Fan of Turnip 143 fans permalink

In only 4 posts, SanFran has written about cornholing, leakage and butt plugs.

Do I detect another 'not gay, never been gay' Republican?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 10/24/2007
- JamesR. I'm a Fan of JamesR. 201 fans permalink
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Oh yeah, the little spun out closet case is in full tilt mode. She's melting...melting...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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I borrowed this from daemon. They'll make great stocking stuffers for the trolls.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 10/24/2007
- JamesR. I'm a Fan of JamesR. 201 fans permalink
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HA!!!! They look a bit unsatisfying for our trolls but all in all will do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 10/24/2007
- Turnip I'm a Fan of Turnip 143 fans permalink

ROFL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 10/24/2007
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 642 fans permalink
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OMG! Jane, that's the first time I've laughed today. Thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 10/24/2007
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 139 fans permalink
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Reminiscent of Senator Larry Craig's famous "I have a gay dream" speech.

An inspiration to us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 10/24/2007

Turnip : The most twisted aspect being that this troll could NOT hail from SF ( and survive ) with that standpoint !!

The ' anal leakage ' MUST be cranial. -ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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LMAO

Evening ralph dear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 10/24/2007
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

I'm fairly new here, so forgive me if the answer to this is common knowledge...

Why are there so many lip-spittle wingnuts on what is a very liberal website? They make up a good percentage of the posters here.

I'm not complaining, mind you. It's often entertaining to watch them spin their convoluted logic and throw their apoplectic fits, but they get shown up and shot down so easily that it's like mowing down fish a barrel. I can't help but wonder what kind of masochists would come here for the punishment. Are they deluded enough to think they're actually scoring points and winning arguments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 10/24/2007
- Turnip I'm a Fan of Turnip 143 fans permalink

no, they don't think their winning arguments.

it just that their social contacts outside 'the internets' is limited by law to supervised visitation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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Every time the country or the troops lose they think they've won as well. Strange lot those trolls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 10/24/2007

strifenot

For them, it's a life.

And a good thing, too. Would you rather they be out on the street with NORMAL folks? HAHA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 10/24/2007
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Welcome,

Answer to your last question - yes.

As to whether they come here due to masochism,delusion,psychosis,OCD,etc.,etc.,
pick one,anyone.
They all apply.

God Bless Fish and Barrels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 10/24/2007
- JamesR. I'm a Fan of JamesR. 201 fans permalink
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Actually I did a diagnosis of just that strifeknot. I attribute it to improper potty training and a domineeering mother/absent father complex.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 10/24/2007
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 139 fans permalink
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"Are they deluded enough to think they're actually scoring points and winning arguments?"

They keep coming back and they won't go away. I guess they do. It certainly is a conundrum of sorts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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No jeffy thinks we're deluted. ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 10/24/2007
- Turnip I'm a Fan of Turnip 143 fans permalink

Hang on, America!

In just a few short months, the Clintons will there to restore honor and integrity (AND compenent governance) to the White House!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 10/24/2007
- sgtjiggs I'm a Fan of sgtjiggs 7 fans permalink

Hillary will be the first woman in a Clinton administration to sit behind the desk in the Oval Office instead of under it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 10/24/2007
- Turnip I'm a Fan of Turnip 143 fans permalink

perhaps.

but for sure she'll also be the first qualified person in that office in 8 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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At least Gannon won't be under it anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 10/24/2007

Selling the lincoln bedroom
campaigning from the VPs office
Sexual Harassment
Stealing Top Secret Documents
Misshandling FBI Files
Firing all US Attornies
Suborning Perjury
Giving Military technology to China so they can bomb us
Illigal campaign contributions
Secret HealthCare meetings
Making 100s of acres of land off limits for Coal mining so the lippo group can get more money.
Giving Haliburton contracts even when they lose the bid
Killing innocent people (Ruby ridge, Waco)
Leaving our soldiers to Die ( Somalia )
Do nothing when terroists attack ( USS Cole )

And Don't Forget Cheating on the Wife.

I really can't wait any longer for more of this honor and integrety.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 10/24/2007
- JamesR. I'm a Fan of JamesR. 201 fans permalink
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 10/24/2007
- Turnip I'm a Fan of Turnip 143 fans permalink

when did hillary cheat on her wife?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 10/24/2007

Ruby Ridge happened under the Presidency of GHW Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 10/24/2007

And you are just starting to talk about Bush because he is all that and more, you troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 10/24/2007

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*** About Michael Roston ***

Apparently does not monitor his own blogspot!
.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 10/24/2007
- Firaxis I'm a Fan of Firaxis 21 fans permalink

General William Wade, Commander of the California National Guard says that he has all the manpower and equipment necessary. He further said that he could get additional manpower and equipment from the National Guard in 49 other states.

He just said that LIVE to Mr Sean Hannity.

The Governator is on now praising everyone for doing such a great job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 10/24/2007

Yet the retard liberals continue to leak at the mouth. Typical

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 10/24/2007

.

LOFL

Mr??? Sean Hannity...

Wow ... that's really pathetic!!

As always ...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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Firaxis is the only one I have seen posting:

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"George Bush caused this disaster"
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 10/24/2007
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 645 fans permalink
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And rummy said the war may last 6 days, 6 weeks, I doubt 6 months . Wanna play the quote game fix ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 10/24/2007
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 645 fans permalink
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I will start...

While discussing the war on terrorism, President Bush said, ... So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him.

Your turn...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 10/24/2007

nothing much to do with the Who's a schmuck and who isn't but...
weren't the winds too strong for airplanes to help the operation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 10/24/2007
- Firaxis I'm a Fan of Firaxis 21 fans permalink

That's what the governor said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 10/24/2007

It's Georges fault.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 10/24/2007

I take it he is in no hurry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 10/24/2007

I dare you to explain your comment: "It's working"---

Or are you afraid of sounding like a madman if you fully and specifically explain your comments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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They did do a great job. No one here would argue that one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 10/24/2007
- reece5309 I'm a Fan of reece5309 9 fans permalink

keep on running your mouths - its working

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 10/24/2007

.

It's bushes fault!!

If everyone had taken the time to rid America of bushes we would be much better off today!

Feel free to quote me on this ...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 10/24/2007

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"running" ... that's funny coming from Americas next BIG energy resource ....
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 10/24/2007
- ajax2 I'm a Fan of ajax2 24 fans permalink
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The right wing commentators here who claim Orange County is liberal are not your brightest pennies. It appears the right have sent out their illiterate bottom to the Huff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 10/24/2007

That's who we're usually stuck with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 10/24/2007

BandR : Yep : They should look South... Their John Wayne Airport is showing. -ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 10/24/2007
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The right wing commentators here who claim Orange County is liberal are not your brightest pennies.
-ajax2
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You'd think they would at least have that down,right?

But nooooo.

I found that colossal blunder very amusing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 10/24/2007
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 642 fans permalink
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sadly, some of them are still more literate than their Commander

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 10/24/2007
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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"It appears the right have sent out their illiterate bottom to the Huff"

Sadly, these are their best spokesfools. No wonder the GOP is dying!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 10/24/2007
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 45 fans permalink

So how is that Bush's fault? They were building during the Clinton years, also. Where they not?

If anything it says alot about our strong economy, because they make good money, that these yuppies keep building homes on land with a HISTORY of fires nearby.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 10/24/2007
- politicky I'm a Fan of politicky 15 fans permalink
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San Diego is Republican through and through.

Who are the land developers?

This is my city and I was evacuated. You think the yuppies are all Democrats?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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Firaxis is the only one I have seen posting:

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"George Bush caused this disaster"
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 10/24/2007
- Firaxis I'm a Fan of Firaxis 21 fans permalink

Look, put the peyote away. OK?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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a direct quote, son.

from below; search it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 10/24/2007

He's right, Fixaflat.
No one but you has posted that.

How does it feel to be hoist by your own petard?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 10/24/2007
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 645 fans permalink
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George big fucking dumbya Bush, had nothing to do with this disaster ! You know I'm a lib fix, am I making myself clear ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 10/24/2007

Look at the picture of Darth and the smirking chimp.
Now picture them behind the fence at Gitmo.
Sometimes, that's the only thing that keeps me sane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 10/24/2007

why were all of the comments removed from the condi rice story?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 10/24/2007

Ask Thalia, she is paid to post bullshit for Hufftard.com. She should know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 10/24/2007

SF2 : Yer seconds are few.

You may not comment on Thalia, lowlife.

Housecleaning ??

-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 10/24/2007
- reece5309 I'm a Fan of reece5309 9 fans permalink

people are really getting sick of it, its a constant drumbeat - always pointing the finger, media matters is turning into the gift that keeps on giving for conservatives

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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You gave yourselves the gift that keeps on giving. Chimpy McFucknuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 10/24/2007
- starrianna I'm a Fan of starrianna 49 fans permalink
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Don't invoke the name of our President like that!

Jiminy God!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 10/24/2007

And that's the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 10/24/2007

HATS OFF TO A CITIZEN AND NOT A SLAVE

My hat is off to the citizen that confronted NeoConDungSleaza Lice, properly addressing her as War Criminal.

Yeah, the entire Reichwing Experience... think Lord Of The Flies scaled up many, many orders of magnitude.

There's nary a day goes by that I don't thank my lucky stars that I'm not directly subject to the absolutely evil, utterly filthy machinations of the Nazis that have - with the complicity of far too many dumbed-down slaves - er, I mean, citizens - finally drowned the USA in the sewer that formerly it only (all too) frequently chose to bathe in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 10/24/2007
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reece -

You have not missed one opurtunity to politicize this horrible catastrophe.

And not once have you offered one shred of empathy and compassion to those suffering in this nightmare.

Not One.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 10/24/2007
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

And great job to the security officer for not throwing the protester to the floor and tasering her repeatedly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 10/24/2007

Heck of a job Brownie.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 10/24/2007
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