Gov't Auditors Warned Bush Administration About Poor Firefighting Plans

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First Posted: 10-24-07 02:10 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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As firefighters continue to risk their lives battling the inferno in southern California, evidence is growing that the Bush administration is not adequately prepared to support them.

The Government Accountability Office, Congress's nonpartisan auditor, issued stark warnings earlier this year on shortcomings in the administration's plans to fight fires.

2007-10-24-fire.jpgIn a June report, the GAO report faulted the U.S. Forest Service, Department of Agriculture, and other agencies for failing to accomplish the "fundamental step" of planning out what assets and resources were needed to prepare for approaching fire seasons. Meanwhile, disaster response problems that have become all too familiar in recent years were also identified: administration officials placing resources where they were politically expedient, and using poorly performing contractors to accomplish critical national tasks.

Strong evidence of the specific federal government failures were provided by the Orange County Register this morning. The paper faulted federal planners for erecting red tape that prevented the use of more DC-10 airplanes to drop flame retardant on areas that were on fire.

"It would be nice to have more such planes available, don't you think?" an editorial in the paper asked. "If the federal government had had its way, even this one almost certainly wouldn't be flying this week....One can understand a certain amount of caution from the Forest Service, but this is bureaucratic overkill."

Robin Nazarro, the Director of GAO's Natural Resources and Environment program, told the Huffington Post why the Forest Service's planning has been inadequate.

"If you don't have goals and strategies for carrying them out, you're in a reactive mode rather than a proactive mode," the report's lead author said. "They say they are using 5 to 10 year averages, but each year the fires gets worse, so they're always underestimating what they need."

The report shows that the Bush administration was warned that the approximately $3 billion spent each year on fire prevention and suppression was not being used appropriately.

"Agencies have not yet improved their systems for determining the appropriate type and quantity of firefighting assets needed for the fire season or for effectively and efficiently procuring them," the GAO states.

The bad planning by the agencies even raised red flags in the White House, where the report's authors say that the President's Office of Management and Budget "told us they would not allow the firefighting agencies to publish long-term funding estimates until the agencies had sufficiently reliable data on which to base those estimates."

The GAO also criticized federal agencies for deploying costly firefighting resources "in response to political or social pressures."

"[F]irefighting assets may sit idle at a fire rather than be released for use elsewhere because managers are concerned that they will be unable to recall an asset if they need it later, or air tankers may drop flame retardants when on-the-ground conditions may not warrant such drops," it warns.

Other problems, the GAO notes, involve private contractors, a common malady in the Bush administration. The Forest Service has turned to national contractors that can deploy firefighting crews and aviation resources anywhere in the nation, but a failure to ensure accountability has resulted in poor performance.

"[R]equirements varied from contract to contract and did not ensure that the agencies obtained the most cost-effective assets," it reported. "Further, inadequate administration and oversight of the agreements by the agencies resulted in poor contractor performance and high rental rates."

Nazarro also highlighted the lack of skilled managers within the Forest Service in particular.

"They don't have enough managers trained in whether to engage in fire use or to suppress," the GAO researcher said. "They need 300 managers, but they're short, with fewer than 100 now, and only another 100 being trained."

Members of Congress blasted the Bush administration's firefighting planning this past summer after the GAO report's release. During a June hearing, Senator Bingaman warned that Bush had focused on cutting budgets in place of adequately preparing for wildfires.

"The Administration's budgets indicate that it believes that containing wildfire costs must come at the expense of preparedness," argued Bingaman, chairman of the Senate energy committee. "Its fiscal year 2008 budget proposes a nearly $90 million cut in the preparedness account. But starving the preparedness, wildfire suppression, and other Forest Service programs is not an effective or efficient strategy to contain those costs."

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- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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ownsthepodium
What's hypocritical? My taunting the hufftards? How so? Have I said that's a bad thing?
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You accuse others of negativity, yet you added nothing to the Rice blog except negitivity. In fact you taunted a blogger to to physically attack a member of the Administration.

Yet somehow you seem to think that you rise above the mud, even though you slither around in it as much as those you accuse. If you were a bigger man you would focus on debate and the construction of viable arguments instead of slagging and trite commentary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 10/24/2007
- GalaxieGal I'm a Fan of GalaxieGal 2 fans permalink

How soon before Barbara trots out to say this is working out very well for the homeowners who lost their homes. After all, many would have faced a mortgage crisis in a month or two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 10/24/2007
- fourex I'm a Fan of fourex 15 fans permalink
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In a desperate move to defend Arnold, right wing commenters identify preparedness critics, the OC fire chief and local OC newspaper as harping liberals. OC you have been slandered by the illiteracy of the right, ditto heads minus one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 10/24/2007
- Firaxis I'm a Fan of Firaxis 21 fans permalink

Liberals by definition are cry babies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 10/24/2007
- Thalia I'm a Fan of Thalia 162 fans permalink

By definition?

Is this the Firaxis dictionary or something?

Besides, it's always you Repubs shrieking one faux outrage or another and pissing about how everyone wants to silence you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 10/24/2007
- NotGuilty I'm a Fan of NotGuilty 8 fans permalink
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Republicans by definition are incompetent, lazy, excuse making boobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 10/24/2007

Wow. They're insane if they're trying to paint the OC Register with the "librul" brush. That's one of the most conservative papers in the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 10/24/2007
- rfshunt I'm a Fan of rfshunt 47 fans permalink

The wingnuts' heads are exploding. Deep down, they know that if mainstream republican stalwarts, like the O.C. Register, have turned against them, then it will be generations before one of their own will be elected to anything higher than dogcatcher.

Can't you smell the desperation in their posts?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 10/24/2007
- Thalia I'm a Fan of Thalia 162 fans permalink

Home Run! Dustin Pedroia, first batter up!!

Go Sox!

(This is a great Series though. Colorado is a really great story. Happy to see either win, but GO SOX!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 10/24/2007
- Firaxis I'm a Fan of Firaxis 21 fans permalink

You know what? It would be OK if the Red Sox won.

Being a Braves fan, I have a soft spot for Boston.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 10/24/2007
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 139 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 10/24/2007

Holy crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 10/24/2007
- scrzbill I'm a Fan of scrzbill 71 fans permalink
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Believe it or not these blogs are not for a few of you idiots to throw inane insults at each other. That is one of the problems that hate radio has brought to US Americans. Instead of finding solutions to poverty, homelessness, ignorance, hatred, war, the Christofascist, and the neo cons have brought this country to the brink of ruin. Some of us remember Eisenhower who was a Republican that distrusted his own running mate and told the country he did. There used to be some honor in politics and now it is total out of control hatred, fanned by the hatred of hate radio. rush and his ilk shame on you. Those of you who follow rush, he calls you "ditto heads" not out of respect and you do not even know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 10/24/2007
- CrimsonTom I'm a Fan of CrimsonTom 7 fans permalink

It's because they don't give a f**k about America or Americans...they only care about winning. They, sickeningly, see elections like wrestling matches where they want to be seen as voting for the winner.

The "values voters"--and even with the quotation marks, that label makes me ill--vote for people who do nothing to advance their agenda (Hint: the Supreme Court had the chance to outlaw abortion and didn't.) The fear-based "defense" freaks vote for those who put this country in peril. The only Republicans who actually vote for those candidates who effectively support their agenda are those in the highest tax brackets who want tax cuts. While these people are odious beyond--what would Jesus do with regard to tax policy on the rich?--at least they're voting in their own interests. This is a very small minority of the party. The rest are morons who would rather "win" than improve their own lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 10/24/2007
- Wombat I'm a Fan of Wombat 3 fans permalink

Brush fires occur every year in the dry chapparell of the local mountains. this year has been especially dry and there have alredy been a number of fires warning us of impendin disaster. There have alradt been two fires at griffith Park. When these occur the California National Guard is always called out to help fight the fires. The Guard, however, is busy fighting WW IV or whater world war the neocons think is happening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 10/24/2007

They're hoping to get the number of World Wars equal to the number of Rocky movies. And at they rate they're going, it won't take them long to get there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 10/24/2007
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 139 fans permalink
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As long as we don't have to make any sacrifices, it's all good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 10/24/2007

wombat

Took my chainsaw (which I use to clear the brush from around my own mountain home) to my buddy Earl's this week for it's yearly tuneup. Earl just so happens to be a disabled Iraq war veteran and a 16 year veteran of the Marines. He told me that while based in San Diego he used to help out the California National Guard in cutting fire lines and periodically clearing out the brush between heavily-populated areas in SoCal. They were ordered to stop doing so because a "private contractor"
had been hired to do the job.
I can't tell you what Earl said after that.
It would probably get me banned from HuffPo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 10/24/2007

Somebody wants to clean out the under brush in the forests but a bunch of people protested and now it's illegal to cut underbrush that's not on your property.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 10/24/2007
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 652 fans permalink
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The Condi thread is closed, it must have gotten ugly in there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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It started out ugly lorn. They had a picture of the beotch up. It doesn't get much uglier than that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 10/24/2007
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 652 fans permalink
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I was thinking that when I wrote ugly, but I edited myself, I'm tryin to be nice tonight ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 10/24/2007

Rightwingers making comments about the looks of the protesters.

Far lefties making comments about Condi's looks.

Demanda calling everyone a fascist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 10/24/2007
- Firaxis I'm a Fan of Firaxis 21 fans permalink

yep, that's about right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 10/24/2007

lorenjl

I've contacted Command Central about it.

And. yeah, I'm sure it got REAL FUCKIN UGLY.

As well it should have, if you ask me...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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I can post the URL if anyone wants to get back inside for a look.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 10/24/2007
- dr4Will I'm a Fan of dr4Will 10 fans permalink
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Why has God given us an idiot when we needed leadership for our many problems--holding on through bush's last days will be a tough ride!!thr right wing nuts are drooling terorism from their lips every second of their pathetic and cowardly response to any question!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 10/24/2007
- Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw

This is the God who has "given us an idiot when we needed leadership"

The one and only.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 10/24/2007
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I Offically Approve the Above Video.

Think I'll Head Down to the Beach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 10/24/2007
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“Weakening winds gave hope to Southern California firefighters today as they battled blazes that may top $1 billion in damages and forced almost 1 million people from their homes, THE BIGGEST EVACUATION in California's history.

Winds in the morning were 15 to 25 miles (24 to 40 kilometers) per hour with gusts up to 45 mph, the agency said.

Many planes carrying flame retardant had been grounded by the winds, which sometimes REACHED HURRICANE STRENGTH. “

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 10/24/2007

coyote4

For those in the audience who may not know shit about flying a heavily-loaded plane above such extreme thermal updrafts, THEY COULDN'T RISK FLYING A PLANE 100 FT. OFF THE GROUND IN 200 MPH WINDS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 10/24/2007

The winds were 40-70 MPH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 10/24/2007

The Bush SCAM-ministration continues to tout "progress in Iraq" and a booming economy...meanwhile, anything domestic requiring important funding is being sadly outed as trouble arises. Whether it be storm preparedness, firefighting, shortage of police forces, voting troubles or homeland security...all lack funding that is badly needed in order to properly protect America and it's citizens. We are pouring billions into Iraq, Blackwater, Halliburton and the pockets of corporate CEOs.

We are not prepared! Bush and the rethugs only hope that fighting overseas stays there, but the fact that they are ignoring full protection of the homeland and it's citizens can only lead to us shooting ourselves in the foot and being unprepared for what may come next HERE!

Get the rethugs and their poor policies OUT of office!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 10/24/2007
- demsrnuts I'm a Fan of demsrnuts 5 fans permalink

MYTH: "The aftermath of Katrina will go down as one of the worst abandonments of Americans on American soil ever in U.S. history."--Aaron Broussard, president, Jefferson Parish, La., Meet the Press, NBC, Sept. 4, 2005

REALITY: Bumbling by top disaster-management officials fueled a perception of general inaction, one that was compounded by impassioned news anchors. In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest--and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm's landfall.

Dozens of National Guard and Coast Guard helicopters flew rescue operations that first day--some just 2 hours after Katrina hit the coast. Hoistless Army helicopters improvised rescues, carefully hovering on rooftops to pick up survivors. On the ground, "guardsmen had to chop their way through, moving trees and recreating roadways," says Jack Harrison of the National Guard. By the end of the week, 50,000 National Guard troops in the Gulf Coast region had saved 17,000 people; 4000 Coast Guard personnel saved more than 33,000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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You actually put yourself on your sockpuppets fans list? Oh my.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 10/24/2007

The voices in his head told him to do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 10/24/2007
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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Jane -

did you see my reply about the Elbo Inn yesterday ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 10/24/2007
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My my my... Dearie me.

You shouldn't be so cruel to the brain dead, Jane.

To quote Eric Cartman, "You shouldnt have done that. He was just a boy, poor little fellar."

demsrnuts is the Reich Wing's new Terry Schiavo.

I'd offer it a cookie, but it'd only choke on it.

Auntie Christ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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sooooooooooooo what you are saying is that our best was not good enough by a long shot.

Therefore, shouldn't we be investing more public dollars into Disaster Relief, especially since Climate Change will bring us more disasters?

Or should that be private money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 10/24/2007
- Firaxis I'm a Fan of Firaxis 21 fans permalink

Katrina is the reason the good people of Louisiana elected a 36 year old Republican. They have seen the incompetence of decades of democrat corruption that spent money for the levees on things like football stadiums. Then the disaster struck and they blamed Bush?

priceless

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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You keep showing back up thinking anything you say is relevant.

Priceless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 10/24/2007
- Thalia I'm a Fan of Thalia 162 fans permalink

Question: If Bush ran again, or if people could go back and change their 2000 and 2004 votes, do you think Bush would be president even once or reelected?

How about Bill Clinton?

'Nuff said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 10/24/2007

Blanco took over after years of Republican corruption in the Governor's Mansion.

During the Republican misadministration the same amount of corruption was rampant.

ALL politicians in Louisiana are crooked.

Furryass only wants to talk about "Democrat" corruption in Louisiana.

Typical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 10/24/2007
- JaneC I'm a Fan of JaneC 277 fans permalink
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Why is it that you and the rest of your brain damaged troll friends have to live your lives fighting to be where you are not wanted, needed, or listened to by anyone? It's really quite sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 10/24/2007

furryass

You left out the part that he wuz an Indian...like a fer-ner...from India.
You need to caffeine up, dud.
Geeeeeeeeeeeeez.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 10/24/2007
- Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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It's not about what and who was saved. It's about who and what was lost ... and why.

You'll have to wait a little longer to start the revisionisms on Katrina ...

... when less people are still living in trailers
,,, when folks have forgotten about the cronyism that brought Brownie into focus
... when the footage of the suffering and privation has been scrubbed from the vaults of the major media

I could go on and on ... all night. But you get the idea.

Give it another 30 years or so. Then engage in revisionism.

There'll be a new generation that might listen to you.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 10/24/2007
- fourex I'm a Fan of fourex 15 fans permalink
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Actually Blackwater and other private thugs were in New Orleans first. Some of the first casualties were inflicted by these mercenaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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“Strike team leader Linsky: "These are inner-city Fire Departments. We're used to going in and busting on a fire for maybe an hour or two, maybe three." Now they've been working for four days.

Firefighters usually work 12-hour shifts at wildfires, but that can stretch to 24 hours in an emergency. Sometimes they eat in chow lines, sometimes they are brought bag lunches. When the flames lead them deep in the back country, they have to settle for MREs.

Firefighters can't go all-out, all the time, he added. "The winds are going to pick up at night; and at 2 o'clock in the morning, I can't have zombies."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 10/24/2007
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Arnold rebukes OC fire chief saying there was plenty of air resources ready, but they couldn't be used because of fires and bad weather.
Arnold raging fires are going to create bad weather.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 10/24/2007

fourex

Ask any smoke jumper and he'll tell you that your ass gets blown straight UP the minute you go OUT of the plane when you're going in above those infernal thermals.
Gawd, the trolls on this site are so fucking stupid, it's bloody unbearable.
Arianna needs to post extra "Brittney" sites when serious news is happening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 10/24/2007
- demsrnuts I'm a Fan of demsrnuts 5 fans permalink

Nebraska Democratic State Senator Ernie Chambers has decided to go straight to the top in an effort to stop natural disasters from befalling the world.

Chambers filed a lawsuit against God in Douglas County Court Friday afternoon, KPTM Fox 42 reported.

The suit asks for a "permanent injunction ordering Defendant to cease certain harmful activities and the making of terroristic threats."

The lawsuit identifies the plaintiff as, "the duly elected and serving State Senator from the 11th Legislative District in Omaha, Nebraska."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 10/24/2007
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 51 fans permalink
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IF THIS STORY IS TRUE GOD IN HEAVEN HELP US BUT ESPECIIALLY NEBRASKA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 10/24/2007

deminuts

That was like two weeks ago. Either give it up or take a course in IRONY at your local community college, OK?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 10/24/2007
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