Gov't Auditors Warned Bush Administration About Poor Firefighting Plans

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First Posted: 10-24-07 02:10 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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As firefighters continue to risk their lives battling the inferno in southern California, evidence is growing that the Bush administration is not adequately prepared to support them.

The Government Accountability Office, Congress's nonpartisan auditor, issued stark warnings earlier this year on shortcomings in the administration's plans to fight fires.

2007-10-24-fire.jpgIn a June report, the GAO report faulted the U.S. Forest Service, Department of Agriculture, and other agencies for failing to accomplish the "fundamental step" of planning out what assets and resources were needed to prepare for approaching fire seasons. Meanwhile, disaster response problems that have become all too familiar in recent years were also identified: administration officials placing resources where they were politically expedient, and using poorly performing contractors to accomplish critical national tasks.

Strong evidence of the specific federal government failures were provided by the Orange County Register this morning. The paper faulted federal planners for erecting red tape that prevented the use of more DC-10 airplanes to drop flame retardant on areas that were on fire.

"It would be nice to have more such planes available, don't you think?" an editorial in the paper asked. "If the federal government had had its way, even this one almost certainly wouldn't be flying this week....One can understand a certain amount of caution from the Forest Service, but this is bureaucratic overkill."

Robin Nazarro, the Director of GAO's Natural Resources and Environment program, told the Huffington Post why the Forest Service's planning has been inadequate.

"If you don't have goals and strategies for carrying them out, you're in a reactive mode rather than a proactive mode," the report's lead author said. "They say they are using 5 to 10 year averages, but each year the fires gets worse, so they're always underestimating what they need."

The report shows that the Bush administration was warned that the approximately $3 billion spent each year on fire prevention and suppression was not being used appropriately.

"Agencies have not yet improved their systems for determining the appropriate type and quantity of firefighting assets needed for the fire season or for effectively and efficiently procuring them," the GAO states.

The bad planning by the agencies even raised red flags in the White House, where the report's authors say that the President's Office of Management and Budget "told us they would not allow the firefighting agencies to publish long-term funding estimates until the agencies had sufficiently reliable data on which to base those estimates."

The GAO also criticized federal agencies for deploying costly firefighting resources "in response to political or social pressures."

"[F]irefighting assets may sit idle at a fire rather than be released for use elsewhere because managers are concerned that they will be unable to recall an asset if they need it later, or air tankers may drop flame retardants when on-the-ground conditions may not warrant such drops," it warns.

Other problems, the GAO notes, involve private contractors, a common malady in the Bush administration. The Forest Service has turned to national contractors that can deploy firefighting crews and aviation resources anywhere in the nation, but a failure to ensure accountability has resulted in poor performance.

"[R]equirements varied from contract to contract and did not ensure that the agencies obtained the most cost-effective assets," it reported. "Further, inadequate administration and oversight of the agreements by the agencies resulted in poor contractor performance and high rental rates."

Nazarro also highlighted the lack of skilled managers within the Forest Service in particular.

"They don't have enough managers trained in whether to engage in fire use or to suppress," the GAO researcher said. "They need 300 managers, but they're short, with fewer than 100 now, and only another 100 being trained."

Members of Congress blasted the Bush administration's firefighting planning this past summer after the GAO report's release. During a June hearing, Senator Bingaman warned that Bush had focused on cutting budgets in place of adequately preparing for wildfires.

"The Administration's budgets indicate that it believes that containing wildfire costs must come at the expense of preparedness," argued Bingaman, chairman of the Senate energy committee. "Its fiscal year 2008 budget proposes a nearly $90 million cut in the preparedness account. But starving the preparedness, wildfire suppression, and other Forest Service programs is not an effective or efficient strategy to contain those costs."

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- getoffmedz I'm a Fan of getoffmedz 110 fans permalink
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Trying to be serious about this tragedy is almost impossible. That's pretty obvious.

This is not a political topic or a subject for humor. The source of these fires are crimes amounting to terrorism. Simple as that.

Being driven out of your home and being truly terrorized by walls of flame just isn't funny. I guarantee y'all over one million Californians don't find the past few days funny at all?

I sincerely hope NONE of you have something like these fires happen to you.

In the mean time, grow the fuck up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 10/24/2007

Well said, and absolutely true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 10/24/2007

Finally, someone hints at the arsonist being to blame.
Kudos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 10/24/2007

That isn't what was said at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 10/24/2007

There are something like 16 fires, one of which was arson. I hope they hang the guy when they catch him, but arson isn't the only problem we have here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 10/24/2007
- project I'm a Fan of project 6 fans permalink

I have listened to people in the bush admin saying how much they learned from katrina and how much better they were at handling it.

Bullshit! This situation is about 100 times easier to deal with than Katrina. Think about it? What have you got some roads are blocked by fire or debris. that is a lot different than having all but one or two roads blocked.
They arte not dealing with flood waters and sewers backing up extreme high winds having to use boats to get around.
Don't get me wrong this is an awful thing for these people but there is no comparison between this and Katrina!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 10/24/2007
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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precisely!
we are all barely snapping out of our state of shock.
right now most walking about mildly disoriented.
but you can bet, when we get ourselves and our neighbors up and running again, we will have some very harsh retorts to a select few out there.

Believe me, if the Orange County Register is placing blame on a Republican Admin and showing evidenciary documents to boot, that is shocking. OC Register is about as conservative as you can get.

So we'll be looking to have Glenn Beck fired and see some other job terminations in the Govt.
Unfortunately, it won't be the real criminals who pay, as usual, just some "heckuvajob" scapegoat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 10/24/2007

This only partially identifies the problem with the response. Weather forecasters warned days in advance on what the weather would be like (winds, etc.). So, why were not more people and equipment on alert and ready to go at the drop of a hat.

It also doesn't explain why more isn't done on the prevention side, like more and better fire breaks, simple mowing of the dry grasses to remove fuel. Even local citizens could do more with suppression of combustible material. 1988 in Yellowstone was the first wake-up call on these mega fires.

I liked the point about how worthless using 10-year averages are when the problem is considerably worse now than 10 years ago. Can't anybody do any thinking anymore?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 10/24/2007
- reece5309 I'm a Fan of reece5309 9 fans permalink

sierra club et al

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 10/24/2007

so was this a national forest that caught on fire?

a national park?

this can't be blamed on the sierra club, idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 10/24/2007

Oh boy.

I guess it was only a matter of time before the trolls figured out how to blame environmentalists for this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 10/24/2007

reece5309--Only a fool would mention the Sierra Club.
I guess you qualify.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 10/24/2007

People! look at the photo in the middle of the banner pics! Its a repug house on fire! and its laughing, it has a mouth full of teeth two eyes a nose and a bunch of halloween junk out front! Its laughing like it's singing about laying "your soul to waste"!!!!!Yikes? Whos house do you think it is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 10/24/2007

So why did Global warming cause an ARSONIST to start a fire?

And are you saying there are only Republican's houses on fire? Who are there more of in California, Republicans or Democrats?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 10/24/2007
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

No one deserves to lose their house. Whether they be Republican or Democrat, rich or poor, smart or stupid, no one deserves to lose their house and worldly possessions. Not even you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 10/24/2007
- demsrnuts I'm a Fan of demsrnuts 5 fans permalink

Nancy Pelosi stated tody " only democrats can save America"..If we all went to Califoria and cried for more government handouts our tears could easily handle a tiny little fire like this !!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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“Temperatures across southern California are about 10C above average and are expected to approach 38Ctoday in Orange and San Diego counties.
Many parts of California have experienced record low rainfalls and record-high temperatures this year, leaving vast swathes of rugged countryside bordering built-up residential areas at the mercy of fires.”
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22639852-23109,00.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 10/24/2007
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 45 fans permalink
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she makes me wanna puke

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 10/24/2007

I'm sure she loses a lot of sleep worrying about that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 10/24/2007
- Thalia I'm a Fan of Thalia 162 fans permalink

We should keep giving it to those huge agra corporations instead.

And a war that was not necessary, never should have happened, and has completely backfired on the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 10/24/2007
- reece5309 I'm a Fan of reece5309 9 fans permalink

this has nothing to do with the war which we (to your dismay) happen to be winning

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 10/24/2007

Any comment on the continuing success of the surge?

No?

Avoidance, I believe, is the term they use when a person wishes not to confront an unpleasant truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 10/24/2007
- project I'm a Fan of project 6 fans permalink

demsrnuts (See profile | I'm a fan of demsrnuts)
Nancy Pelosi stated tody " only democrats can save America"..If we all went to Califoria and cried for more government handouts our tears could easily handle a tiny little fire like this !!!!

If you pulled your head out of your ass maybe you could see what you are saying. lol fool!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 10/24/2007
- Horst I'm a Fan of Horst 24 fans permalink

Arsonists worked for Cheney!!!!! They were not drugged out illegal aliens as first suspected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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Horst .
tasteless unfeeling immoral insensitive rude

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 10/24/2007
- Eoin45 I'm a Fan of Eoin45 44 fans permalink

Bet you're a christian too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 10/24/2007

Now we are blaming Bush for wild fires? I don't expect more on this site, but fires are just one of nature's ways of saying "there's too many people living in areas where they shouldn't". Americans can't have it all, just like people who live in coastal areas who surprised when a hurricane destroys their property.

You can complain about capitalism all you want, but when government interferes, (see Federal Insurance programs) then people are encouraged to live in places they shouldn't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 10/24/2007

Who is blaming Bush for wild fires?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/24/2007

The trolls want us to blame bush so badly, they're willing to *GASP* lie and say we're blaming him anyway. I'm shocked at this behavior, are you shocked too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 10/24/2007
- rabun666 I'm a Fan of rabun666 14 fans permalink

Not to worry, FEMA is on the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 10/24/2007
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

let's see how many illegals are looking to displace American construction workers when this coming boomlet begins......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 10/24/2007

If it weren't for the contractors seeking to pay lower wages, the "illegals" would have no work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 10/24/2007
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 23 fans permalink

I like the new word, boomlet....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 10/24/2007
- reece5309 I'm a Fan of reece5309 9 fans permalink

RUSH: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait -- hold it hold it hold it hold it just a second. Tell me what it is, when you just said, "I don't know where our political officials are getting this stuff," what are you hearing them say that they've got wrong?

CALLER: Like they want to bring in the National Guard to fight the fires. The guys sat around here that are around the pumpers out in Harmony Grove -- I live in Carlsbad, and we're one of the places that's on the beach but there's fires on both sides of us. The problem is the stuff is moving so fast, unless you were God, you can't stand in front of it, and everybody knows the only way to stop these fires is for the firemen to get out in front of them. Well, they're not getting out in front of them. All there doing is structure protection because the flames in some cases are 30, 40, 60 feet high, and I don't care if you had a whole platoon of Guardsmen, it's going to run right over 'em. These people do not understand. And for them to politicize it this -- I'm sorry, man. My voice is breaking up. I've been up for 36 hours trying to do this stuff. If they would just leave us alone, we would get through it. Do you realize -- you probably don't because you won't hear this on the local media -- at one time there were more doctors, nurses, our hospitals are closed because they're going down to Qualcomm, they're going down to Del Mar to take care of people, and at one time there were more caregivers down there than there were evacuees!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 10/24/2007

I remember what the Nazi slime did to Fallujah.

What goes around comes around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 10/24/2007
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

would national guard helicopters help with those 60 feet high flames?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 10/24/2007

Estimated cost of fires 1 Billion!!

So, instead of 46 BILLION to rape and pillage Iraq a little more, just make it 45 BILLION and help your own people.

You know damn well, that will never happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 10/24/2007
- reece5309 I'm a Fan of reece5309 9 fans permalink

CALLER: Hey, Rush, nice to hear you. I'm so mad right now I don't know where to start. Everybody down there is taking care of each other. All this stuff about bringing National Guard in and everything, they took 800 Guardsmen off of the border where they should have stayed to come down here to Qualcomm and all it is is a big tailgate party. Everyone's helping each other, there's --

RUSH: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait a minute. Tony, I want to make sure I heard this. Did you say they took 800 guards off the border, National Guardsmen or border guards or whatever, and brought 'em to Qualcomm?

CALLER: If you guys would listen to the -- not you, Rush, I'm sorry, I'm just so angry. I've been up all night evacuating horses up in Harmony Grove, and it's not just Qualcomm Stadium. We got 10,000 there. We got 10,000 at the Del Mar race track. Vista high school, everyone is taking people, and there's no rioting, there's no fighting, everyone is helping each other. They brought the national -- you go see some of these pictures down at Qualcomm, they got National Guard guys walking around, no guns, no nothing, shorts on, rolled-up sleeves because everyone is taking care of each other. This is absolutely stupid. I don't know where our political officials are getting this stuff. And then they want to bring 'em in to fight the fire. Well, let me tell you --

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 10/24/2007
- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 10/24/2007
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How do you know this caller wasn't just a shill? You're not stupid enough to believe or trust Rush Limbaugh, are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 10/24/2007
- robodweeb I'm a Fan of robodweeb 116 fans permalink
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Didn't he say that he just carries water for things he really doesn't believe.

He's just an act.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/24/2007
- reece5309 I'm a Fan of reece5309 9 fans permalink

Rush is an honorable man

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 10/24/2007

Why do you think he's a conservative? Conservatives will believe anything you tell them. Look at the list of things they have fallen for

1. Bush is a Compassionate Conservative
2. Bush is strong on nation security
3. Bush is a fiscally responsible conservative
4. Rush is an honorable man and does not say stuff just for rating and sensation
5. Rush is not a drug addict.
6. Sean Hannity is the greatest american
7. Using duct tape to seal your home actually works.
8. We are fighting them there so we won't have to fight them here.
9. The money being spent in Iraq is for the security of America.
10. 6+ billion people on the planet have no effect on the eco-system.
11. Mankind has nothing to do with global warming. All that shit we spew into the air is actually good for nature.
12. Liberals are out to turn America into a communist nation.
13. Universal healthcare will make us a communist nation.
14. Universal healthcare will mean that you won't get proper care when you want it.
15. Clinton is the devil and his blow job is responsible from every misfortune since the great depression.
16. Regan was a great President.
17. Rudi Guiliani is an intelligent man.
18. Dick Cheney is an honorable man.
19. Larry Craig is not gay.
20. The Bush administration actually cares about the American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 10/24/2007
- Thalia I'm a Fan of Thalia 162 fans permalink

The angry right.

Hmmmm...

Lol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 10/24/2007

They're all over the place today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 10/24/2007

Does your left hand know what your right hand is doing??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 10/24/2007
- project I'm a Fan of project 6 fans permalink

reece5309

Only morons idiots and fools listen to limpballs. Which are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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It's not about safety, but about eliminating government services so that the private sector may benifit.

Seen in this neocon light, disasters like New Orleans are not failures, but opportunities that arise from destruction.

Disaster Capitalism produces growth and is thus seen by Republican­s/capitali­sts/neocon­s as positive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 10/24/2007

This is ridiculous. The Bush Administration and the California Government responded in a timely fashion with all the equipment that the firefighters needed. These fires are a result of poor forest management which can be traced directly to environmentalists. We have a situation where several factors combined together to create the perfect storm. We have extremely dry weather as well as the Santa Anna winds coming into play to create a super firestorm. In addition, environmentalists have prevented forest management employees as well as homeowners from clearing out underbrush which fuels these type of fires as well as creating a belief that every fire should be put out which would destroy firestorm fuel without burning 1000's acres of forest. In addition, these areas are subject to fires and yet builders are allowed to build in these areas. My question is, if I decide to build a home on the side of an active Volcano should the taxpayer pay for my stupidity when something happens. These fires have nothing to do with Global Warming or the Bush Administration. Get real.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 10/24/2007
- reece5309 I'm a Fan of reece5309 9 fans permalink

exactly - thank you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 10/24/2007
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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“Temperatures across southern California are about 10C above average and are expected to approach 38Ctoday in Orange and San Diego counties.
Many parts of California have experienced record low rainfalls and record-high temperatures this year, leaving vast swathes of rugged countryside bordering built-up residential areas at the mercy of fires.”
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22639852-23109,00.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/24/2007
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

Is that why the fires are still burning out of control, because Bush responded properly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 10/24/2007
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 10/24/2007

Since you don't even know how to spell Santa Ana it is obvious that you are not from SoCal and haven't a clue what you are talking about. I'm more inclined to listen to the San Diego fire chief who is there on the frontlines. We all know the fire response would have been better had there not been so much equipment either still in Iraq or destroyed in Iraq for Bush's folly. So PLEASE get back underneath the rock you came out from and just STFU.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 10/24/2007
- BushBites I'm a Fan of BushBites 30 fans permalink

Orange County Nazi Rags give their Bush-Boy a pass, blame "bureaucrats" instead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 10/24/2007
- GarsLuber I'm a Fan of GarsLuber 12 fans permalink

Oh why, why, WHY didn't the Katrina victims choose to stay in hotels?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/24/evac.where/index.html

Did they not have Sean Hannity's magic nonexistent buses?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 10/24/2007

Why didn't they drive their cars?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 10/24/2007
- reece5309 I'm a Fan of reece5309 9 fans permalink

they had five days notice - they should of left, the people in ca. had six hours max.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 10/24/2007

No. The evacuation order came the Saturday before the storm hit.

36 hour notice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 10/24/2007
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