Clinton, Obama In Iowa Dead Heat

UI Hawkeye Poll   |   October 29, 2007 10:18 AM


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Mitt Romney continues to hold a strong lead in Iowa among candidates seeking the Republican presidential nomination. But Mike Huckabee's Iowa numbers -- buoyed, perhaps, by growing support among Evangelical Christians -- have jumped significantly since August, putting him in a near-tie with Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson, according to a new University of Iowa Hawkeye Poll of likely GOP caucus-goers released today, Monday, Oct. 29, 2007.

Despite Giuliani's lead in most national polls, Romney holds a strong lead in Iowa at 36.2 percent, with Giuliani second at 13.1 percent, Huckabee third with 12.8 percent and Thompson fourth at 11.4 percent. John McCain has 6.0 percent.

In the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, meanwhile, a slip in John Edwards' numbers has allowed Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to tighten their grips on the No. 1 and No. 2 spots, respectively. Among all likely Democratic caucus-goers, Clinton leads with 28.9 percent, followed by Obama with 26.6 percent, Edwards with 20.0 percent, Bill Richardson with 7.2 percent and Joe Biden with 5.3 percent.

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- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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American Research Group(ARG) comes to the rescue again!!!

Every time Obama or Edwards get close to Hillary ARG comes out with a poll that is out of sync with the moment.

It is obvious that ARG is using its polling to keep Hillary standing on the impending tide.

I am even willing to think they are calling 30% of known Hillary supporter and another 70% are actual new people being polled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 10/30/2007

If anyone wants to beat Hilary in the primary they need to follow the advise in a commentary I read yesterday. Here is the link, it is interesting

http://joeleonardi.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/how-to-halt-hillary/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 10/30/2007
- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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Huffpo never cease to amaze me with all their ridiculous photos of Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 10/29/2007
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 289 fans permalink
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Republicans are warming to Hillary for two reasons:

1) Out of all the Democrats, she would be the easiest to beat in the general election.

2) Out of all the Democrats, she would make the best president if she won.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 10/29/2007
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Well from these poll results in Iowa and common sense I would say that Hillary has made the same mistake as her alter ego and declared "mission acccomplished" before the real battle has begun. Yet people keep clinging to second tier candidates and no tier candidates (Gore) over narrow and nuanced single issues rather than making a race out of the Democratic primary to select someone who can win in the general with impressively high ratings for every progressive political ideal and issue that I can think of except that he had the audacity to run for President. Then there is the canard about lack of experience. Senator Obama has whipped the pants off of every "supposedly more experienced" second tier candidate and has run neck and neck in organization and fund raising against the biggest Clinton/DLC juggernaut in my memory. So what is wrong with this picture? So what's with the so called liberal progressives? Is Barack a human rights and gay rights advocate, hell yes. Is Barack against this evil war and want to get our troops out as quickly and safely as possible, oh hell yes. Is Barack for a woman's choice, yes of course. Is Hillary more capable and intelligent than Barack Obama on health care, SS, understanding the constitution, or other domestic issues, no way. So where's the beef? It is getting harder and harder by logical and deductive reasoning to understand. Everyone says that a black man can't win in the general and yet the facts are that Senator Obama's negative ratings are lower Hillary's in almost every demographic group and particularly among moderate independents and swing republicans.

Maybe it's the historic tendency for liberal progressives to self-destruct over the absolutism and the purity of their politically myopic lenses through which they view candidates. I will proudly and I believe intelligently continue to work for Barack Obama to be the Democratic presidential nominee.

OBAMA/WEBB '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 10/29/2007
- serialcoma I'm a Fan of serialcoma 123 fans permalink
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Good for you, I'm glad you're happy with your choice and the concessions you've made to accomodate your belief that Obama is the second coming of Christ...

regardless which side serves it koolaide is koolaide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 10/29/2007
- avergejoe I'm a Fan of avergejoe 15 fans permalink

You go Obama!

Take out the war-mongers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 10/29/2007
- PeaceCzar I'm a Fan of PeaceCzar 7 fans permalink

Obama, who's stated he will increase the military by 100,000 troops? He's gonna take out the war-mongers?

The guy who gave one speech against the war and has since voted to support it each and every time in the Senate? If he was any type of leader he'd be fighting tooth and nail right now to end it.

Gravel/Kucinich 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 10/29/2007
- jeanruss I'm a Fan of jeanruss 9 fans permalink

WHO IN THE WORLD ARE THEY POLLING? ALIENS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 10/29/2007
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The only way to get out of this Bush-Clinton-Bush merry-go-round is Edwards/Obama.

Populism is the only effective cure for the cancer of corporate fascism. Save America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 10/29/2007
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Speaking, I agree with your premise but help me out here, Obama has beat the shit out of Edwards in evry conceivable measure of a candidate; organization, fundraising, popular following and so forth. So how does he get to the back of your ticket (Edwards/Obama)? Why isn't your ticket constructed by who has been the best candidate so far, why not Obama/Edwards? Just curious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 10/29/2007
- MarkieBee I'm a Fan of MarkieBee 13 fans permalink

THIS JUST IN! 100 percent of the people will not agree with their chosen candidates 100 percent of the time. I'm a huge Obama supporter and I'm not comfortable with the whole McGurkin issue either. But Obama is running to be president of the United States - not just president of me. I am smart enough to realize there are many, many belief systems and ideas out there and some I really disagree with. But that's America. The freedom to believe or not to believe. That doesn't mean that belief system should be removed or discounted. Obama isn't pandering. He realizes he's going to be president of the UNITED States of America. All of us. Some people will disagree with him and some will agree. Pick another issue and those people who disagreed will agree, and those who agreed won't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 10/29/2007
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thank you!

He can't run for President of "100% of The Net Roots", or President of "100 % of liberal gay activists", or president of "the teachers unions". He is running for President of the United States. Period.

Good post MarkieBee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 10/29/2007

IMPEACH CLINTON '09

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 10/29/2007

So you do agree that she will be the 44th President?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 10/29/2007

IMPEACH CLINTON '09

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 10/29/2007

Thank you for your Clinton vote, beach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 10/29/2007
- NCGigi I'm a Fan of NCGigi 2 fans permalink

Edwards is the way to go. He is progressive and electable. He has dedicated his life to fighting against the profit/death machine in his work, and now is running for president. What's not to like. He's a mill kid made good, and for those of you that don't know that means he earned his own money.

Edwards/Obama 08!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 10/29/2007
- serialcoma I'm a Fan of serialcoma 123 fans permalink
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I'm liking Edwards more and more and, with any luck, Clinton and Obama will alienate enough voters to make an Edwards Presidency possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 10/29/2007

Edwards and Obama have canibalized each other's votes as they have pandered to the same demographics since the beginning. The latter is now chasing the Afro-American evangelicals which will further alienate the earlier demographics that he was pandering to! Talk about shooting yourself in the foot but then naivette/fluff often does that

Anyhoo, Edwards has moved from 11 to 14% and BHO is headed into a downward spiral! Hillary has all but clinched the nomination!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 10/29/2007
- Poised I'm a Fan of Poised 2 fans permalink

If Senators Clinton and Obama manage to scratch each other's eyes out, Edwards may rise to the nomination. Not a bad result. I think, however, that the electorate will come to their senses about Hillary's being Bush Lite (or Bush in drag, if you will), and Barak will win her votes.

If the fundie Christians** stick to their guns and back away from Romney or Giuliani as threatened, Barak could end up as president. While I can see some international PR benefits from his election, I'm not at all sure he is up to the job. Edwards probably is.

**Personally, I cannot get the words fundamentalist and Christian into the same sentence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 10/29/2007
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There are many moral values voters who would vote for
Edwards/Obama over the GOP current leaders.

Edwards/Obama is the only way to avoid the BCBCB dynasty
aims of GHWB's fascist takeover.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 10/29/2007

Dead candidates in Iowa. You finally got rid of Edwards the only live one running.

Trick of Treat. Now Democrats are supposed to pick between the born again homophobic bigot and the darling of NAFTA, IMF and the World bank. Both pro war. No thank you DLC. If Nader does not run I will write him in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 10/29/2007
- zull2 I'm a Fan of zull2 38 fans permalink
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What are you talking about? Homophobic bigot? Are you referring to Donnie McClurkin? He's not running for office, as far as I can tell. McClurkin isn't exactly the smartest kid in class, I'll have you know...but he hasn't preached violence towards homosexuals at any time, he's just confused about his own identity. However, I'd say it's better for homophobes to go around trying to convert gay folks rather than try to lynch them. We all know it isn't a choice...so the jokes on them for wasting their time!

As for the born again part, last time I checked it's still legal for people to declare their religious affiliation later in life. I'm an agnostic, and I know what you're talking about, but you're just as big a bigot if you hate Christians. If you hate the church, then that's fine, but it sounds like you hate the people and that's just as bigoted as it gets.

What good is throwing your vote away for someone who isn't even running going to do? Why even bother voting? No one is ever going to see your write in candidate. The only person will be someone counting the votes that will have a chuckle over it. You might as well write in Mr. T, for pete's sakes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 10/29/2007
- serialcoma I'm a Fan of serialcoma 123 fans permalink
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http://www.firedoglake.com/

Obama shot himself in the foot with this association with McClurkin...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 10/29/2007
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"...Democrats are supposed to pick between the born again homophobic bigot and the darling of NAFTA, IMF..."

Amazing. godlessclif continues to unleash bigoted remarks at Senator Obama. Obama is no more a bigot for being backed by McClurkin, than Hillary Clinton is for announcing the back of (and her friendship with) Rev. Harold Mayberry, one of her prominent campaign insiders who believes that homosexuality is comparable to thievery.

You make no sense.

In fact, on one of the threads to Earl Ofari Hutchinson's three smear posts against Obama, a Huffpo commenter named Brain Z tried to get away with some word play, which is typical of those calling Obama a bigot (or worse). Here is what BrianZ wrote:

"At the end of the day you want me to decry Hillary for accepting the backing of a man (Harol Mayberry) who preaches against homosexuality and you have yet to denounce your candidate for backing the homophobe himself and you cant see the difference."

He tried to be clever with the word play, but he wasn't clever enough. He tried to say that Obama "backed the homophobe" McClurkin, but used kid gloves with Hillary because she merely "accepted the backing" of someone who speaks against homosexuality. So Hillary isn't "backing" Harold Mayberry? You guys kill me.

It doesn't matter if you're not supporting Hillary. You don't seemed to thrilled about it. My point in mentioning this is that you, BrainZ, Siskokid, Juno912, and a whole host of others conveniently (and deliberately) let Hillary off the hook for he association with homophobes, but are ready to blast Obama who has an impeccably strong record on gay rights - before and after he started his run for The White House.

Calling him a bigot is criminally irresponsible. That's like me calling Ron Paul a racist because white supremacists groups are donating to his cause in strong numbers and showing up at his rallies.

Your comments against Obama reveal what you think of him. So who is the "bigot" now? Or shall I call you by your new logon name, "goddlessbigot"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 10/29/2007
- serialcoma I'm a Fan of serialcoma 123 fans permalink
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The left begins imbibing its own flavor of koolaide... unquestioning support of any candidate is never good but since you are an Obama activist / volunteer I guess you can be forgiven...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 10/29/2007

I'm so tired of holding my nose before going into the voting booth. Just once I'd like to be able to vote for someone, rather than against someone. Sadly, to me, none of these candidates on either side really excite me, and the frontrunners especially turn me off, so it looks like another bullet vote coming up in 2008....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 10/29/2007

Look closer at Ron Paul old Mr. Boston.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 10/29/2007
- zull2 I'm a Fan of zull2 38 fans permalink
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First of all, do you know that Ron Paul was a prime proponent of overthrowing Roe vs. Wade, thus stripping women of their right to choose as to whether they can have an abortion? It's right on his website, proudly displayed in bold print under "Life and Liberty". Doesn't sound so free thinking to me.

Did you look at his section on Social Security? He talks about removing a tax SS earnings...but then he just goes on to blather about how he feels it's all broken without giving any real suggestions of how he'll fix it...other than the mystical word "Solvency".

As far as his bit on debt and taxes, his ultimate solution is "the Constitution". However, the problem there is that The Constitution isn't exactly a document that describes in detail how the economic system in the country is supposed to work. It's just a document, presented by the people, that defines the government and nothing more.

There's a lot more than that about Ron Paul that most folks don't know because they are blinded by his anti-NAFTA and anti-Iraq war stance. Just because he's right on two things, doesn't mean he's right on everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 10/29/2007
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