Obama Using Bill Clinton Tapes To Prep For Tonight's Debate

MSNBC   |  Howard Fineman   |   October 30, 2007 12:00 PM


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As Sen. Barack Obama prepared for Tuesday night's crucial NBC debate in Philadelphia, his high command back in Chicago was watching a lot of old Clinton videotape -- not of Hillary Clinton, but of Bill, and not of Bill as president, but of Bill as a fresh-faced candidate of 46 (which happens to be Obama's age) in 1991 and 1992.

"You know, I look at Clinton back then, and I find a lot I agree with," said David Axelrod, Obama's media adviser. "He said things Barack is saying now."

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People who are overlording the new media are not sure what the new media did beneath them? but the unspirited way they are accepting the over-beautification and creme the new media is rubbing for them is not a lie!
Beneath them the new media has created a killing machine and one that literally bled the publics allover the world. The New Media is not there when it is time to make peace,instead the new media is carrying on the old secular/zionist regime and not accepting the new global world or particip[ating in any simple ressurection of institutes that were downed or singled out and heald under death threats. Until they gave the public the feel that 'no one is safe today'. Their fear mongering and war mongering is very clear. They read signs from scientists and greater organisations but choose to turn twist tongues vand thought.
The Media has not accepted that Moscow generously disintegrated USSR.
The Media even tried to campaign against Chinese Communist Party in 2000.
The Media stood on CNN Building rooftop and blamed afgan extremists for attacking the twin towers.The particulart personel were busy in creating a social tradegy in the region.
It was BBC that actually reverted very calmly the danger of a nuclear attack on Kabul that has been given over to Osama Bin Laden by interest groups that would play/loot the wealth of that nation.
The new media gave publicity to Sadaam Husien who acted a big crowd pleaser for them and killed Irani's Kurd's and Kuwaities as much as he killed his own Iraqi's .
All through it's sattelite dish antenna riegn the New Media has only been an exploiter of weak and charged the rich to fill its pockets .
Today the cable technology has become a censor itself.


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 10/30/2007
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The list of their ignoreing affairs of dire importance to economic world is even longer...
Such crowd as Clinton's who bank on New Media are found everywhere and enjoy media favoriteism because in many countries they are using collective help from agencies that would enjoy the new media but skipped it in their favor becausec they were unfit to show themselves.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 10/30/2007
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Why would Obama study films of Bill Clinton's debates?

I guess if he doesn't do well he did not study the tapes well and if he does well he did a good job copying Bill? That would be a win win for the Clinton brand isn't it?

Obama is his own man. If the videos are so useful then Hillary is the one that's studying the tapes.

The issues are not the same so he has nothing to gain from looking backwards. He possibly could not be studying anybody when he was one of the KINGS of debates at Havard.

Nice try though!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 10/30/2007

Ethical Republican.



BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 10/30/2007

Bush is watching the debate tonite and playing the Republican version of Quarters.

Every time a Democrat points out how incompetent he is, he hits a brain damaged 12 year old with a stick and collects a quarter from Cheney..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 10/30/2007

Heh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 10/30/2007

Why do Republicans always smell like public toilets?



Oh, never mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 10/30/2007

Obama can study Clinton all he wants.....he'll NEVER even be able to carry his political jockstrap!!! Do you think Bill Clinton would host a travelling minstreal show featuring gay priests...and one who claims "GOD turned him straight"??? Barack....you're through!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 10/30/2007

It must kill Repubs to look at the Democratic field and know that any one of them, right now this second, could step into the job and do a better job than Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 10/30/2007

Even Mike Gravel has higher poll numbers than Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 10/30/2007

I can only support Kucininch and Edwards from this group.

Kucinich grows more electable by the day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 10/30/2007

Obama need his own sex scandal. That should improve his poll numbers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 10/30/2007

I see Bill Clinton talking about he and Hillary's relationship and it makes me want to vomit.

This guy had sex with an Intern in the Whitehouse.

She was an enabler, yet plays the victim. Remember, this is a vast right wing conspiracy!!!

This woman has no shame, and Bill Clinton, though he did some good, is not a good man.

America needs a cleansing from the Bushes and Clintons.

Anyone But hillary!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 10/30/2007
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I don't really get the thinking here.

It's mandatory to dump your husband when he has an affair?

Is the reverse true? Wife/husband?

Where did this rule come from?

In your personal experience, among say friends and family members, does this rule have any connection with reality, or did you lift it directly off a sitcom?

Very few grownups follow this rule, and thank goodness for that. Divorce can be and often is a disaster.

Long marriages are complicated, and people have a lot invested. You need to get out more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 10/30/2007

--Released: October 29, 2007

Zogby Poll: 52% Support U.S. Military Strike Against Iran

Most see Clinton as the presidential candidate best equipped to deal with Iran, followed by Giuliani and McCain, but many express uncertainty--


I truly hope they get their wish. America's ignorance is like a bottomless pit. They're falling for the same propaganda they fell for with regard to the Iraq scam war.

Let her rip. Let's continue to export the only two things we have to export: War & debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 10/30/2007

We'd be better off if we did export debt. Instead we are piling it on like Divine in a John Waters movie. But you are dead on about America's ignorance, and it is a scary thing to see. How many people get up in the morning and make a conscious choice to be stupid is truly frightening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 10/30/2007

We are exporting debt in the form of Treasury bonds/notes to China, Japan, & South Korea. One day they're gonna import it back and ask for payment in full.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 10/30/2007
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Zogby didn't call me.

I would have told them hell to the no.

It's unbelievable that at the same time approx. 65%-70% of Americans are opposed to the debacle in Iraq.

It's true what Gore Vidal said "United States of Alzhiemer's".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 10/30/2007

I'm still trying to figure outhow all of those people justify a strike on Iran.

"Because they're there." doesn't doesn't seem like a good enough reason to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 10/30/2007

Makes you wonder doesn't it? Our country has over 300 million people, and based on that poll, there are at least 150 millions retards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 10/30/2007
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demsrnuts (See profile | I'm a fan of demsrnuts)

Poor nuts.

All that time preparing spam nobody reads.

***sniff** so sad....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 10/30/2007

It certainly is determined.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 10/30/2007
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This is all it has. Well, that, and his love for Santorum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 10/30/2007
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Hey, LaFem:

Go easy on nut sack. Can you imagine being him/her/it and constantly living with the thought that it might be one of YOUR relatives in that can of Spam?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 10/30/2007

I think Hillary might prefer Barrack over Bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 10/30/2007

*HIC*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 10/30/2007

Fineman's points are well taken. The Clintons have become what they criticized in Washington when Bill first campaigned for the Presidency. The distinction is clear. The Clinton's represent the ONE WORLD ORDER of the Bush cartel and Obama is, at the moment, not apart of that fascism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 10/30/2007
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They had better study Bill Clinton. What an impressive person. So, ok, he had a little thing going with Monica. Yeah? The last time I checked, no one died. Under Dear Leader, we have millions dead around the world, a war based on lies, gutting of the Constitution,US prestige in tatters around the world, people's rights, public services,(gutted), huge increases in energy, gas, oil, food. Clinton would have gone down in history as one of the best Presidents, EVER. This used to drive the hate-filled repub's crazy, simply because he was everything they were not. They were just plain JEALOUS of him. It is as simple as that. You are correct, Gore should have followed his own instincts, rather than those of the politcal hacks around him. He would have WON.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 10/30/2007

Libs simply have no memory.

The first two years of Clinton's reign (Travelgate, Vince Foster, Hillarycare, Hillary's amazing stock market manipulation, Waco & Al Gore's casting of the deciding vote to increase SS witholdings) produced the greatest Congressional backlash in our country's history.

Tom Foley, first sitting Speaker to ever lose a re-election bid, Daschle biting the dust, not a single Republican being defeated, etc., etc. BOTH Houses in 1994 under Republican control for the first time since Eisenhower.

After that, Newt took over, Hillary began to converse with Eleanor, and Bill became a Republican.

You libs always focus on Monica but always forget about Desert Storm & welfare reform.

Clinton owes his popularity to Newt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 10/30/2007

Yes, of course. Too bad nobody looked into those things you mention in your second paragripe. If I ever gave you any credit for a modicum of intelligence, which I didn't, the Waco crap tells me all I need to know.

You will forgive crimes against the citizens of this country by Bush, crimes of epic proportions and death and destruction...yet you blame Clinton for Waco, where the inmates had already killed two SWAT members.

You play in the woods with color balls, I'd guess your's are yellow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 10/30/2007
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Nonsense. Clinton wasn't an ideologue. He compromised.

Unlike President Bush, and every single conservative candidate running now. Rigid ideologues, every one, and the wiggle room gets smaller with every far-Right statement.

It should be fun to watch them tack back to the middle after the primary. I saw Guiliani is already denying his nut-job Right wing foreign policy advisors. Did he not hire these people? Is he ashamed? What's he hiding?

Perhaps Americans aren't anxious to invade and occupy another ME country? Hmmm?

If you liked President Bush, you'll LOVE Rudy Guiliani. That's the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 10/30/2007
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