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Dems Pushing Back Against Renewed GOP Effort To End California's Winner-Take-All Electoral Vote System

First Posted: 3/28/08 Updated: 5/25/11

Democratic Party activists responded with renewed concern Monday to the news that reports of the death of a GOP initiative to divide California's electoral votes had been greatly exaggerated, and that a new round of financing from wealthy Republicans had resurrected the proposal.

The Republican proposal would alter the method of apportioning California's 55 electoral votes, moving from a winner-take-all system based on the popular vote to one that awards one vote for each congressional district a candidate wins.

Such a plan would alter the political geography of the current presidential contest, shifting as many as 20 consistently Democratic electoral votes from safe Republican districts into the GOP column.

Party leaders in Washington and Sacramento moved quickly to launch a revived push to kill the initiative once and for all, setting up a new effort to challenge the legitimacy of the signatures being gathered to qualify the measure for the California ballot.

Opponents are also simultaneously laying the groundwork for an eventual legal fight over the constitutionality of the proposal.

The aggressive push back from Democrats reflects the deep concern throughout the party about the consequences of the California ballot initiative.

"I think Democrats should plan for the worst and hope for the best," said Chris Lehane, a Democratic strategist spearheading the opposition to the GOP plan. "I don't think Democrats can ever breathe easy in this campaign."

In their new push to fight the plan, Democrats have launched an aggressive effort to track down the signature gatherers being paid to sign up the roughly 400,000 supporters needed to qualify the initiative for the California ballot.

"We actually have people out filming them and trying to find out what they are doing," said Rick Jacobs, founder of the Courage Campaign, the California progressive organization, which is working against the initiative.

On its website, the California Democratic Party is encouraging state residents to take on "mission assignments" to stop the Republican plan to "steal the state." Among the tasks are reporting back to the party whenever they see signature gatherers in action.

"Email, call or text us when you see people collecting signatures for the petition. We'll post them on the CDP Fraud Busters sightings page so everyone can see where the Republicans are on the move," says a note on the Democrats' website.

Opponents of the proposal said it remains to be seen whether Republicans have now raised enough money to sustain the initiative.

According to news reports over the weekend, various Republicans, including California Rep. Darrell Issa, have cut checks to resurrect the initiative, but the committee pushing the plan has yet to file disclosure statements with the California Secretary Of State identifying its new donors.

Issa himself donated $50,000, but said other Republicans had donated much more.

Lehane said he is fielding calls from Democrats across the country wanting to contribute to the campaign against the proposal.

"Money will not be an issue in this campaign," Lehane said.

Opponents have also repeated earlier concern that the proposed initiative is one strategy the campaign of Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani is using to help secure the White House.

Lehane's group has filed a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission and the Department of Justice about connections between the Giuliani camp and the proposed ballot initiative.

Anne Dunsmore, a veteran Republican fundraiser who recently quit the Giuliani campaign, has signed on to help resurrect the electoral vote proposal. Before Issa announced his donation last week, the initiative's only other donor had been Paul Singer, a prominent Giuliani backer.

Thomas W. Hiltachk, a Sacramento attorney, stepped down from his post as the initiative campaign's first chief in the wake of the revelations about Singer.

"We went from one set of Giuliani-connected, power-grabbing, democracy-threatening right wingers who couldn't shoot straight with the people of California," Lehane said, "to another cabal of Giuliani-connected, power-grabbing, democracy-threatening right wingers who shoot even less straight with the voters of California."

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10:43 AM on 11/07/2007
Just six more days to hand in the signatures
not going to happen
05:19 PM on 11/06/2007
The Founding Fathers never intended for the USA to be a Democracy. Our government was created as a Democratic Republic..­.which means we live in a republic, not a democracy. The Electoral College was intended to give balance to our system because the founding fathers believed democracy equals Mob Rule.

So, for everyone clamoring for a real democracy, read your history. Then go read Socrates, Thomas Jefferson, Alexis de Tocquevill­e, Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn.

As for this nonsense in my state, I will fight it.

The problem in the USA today is not our system of government­, but our inability to keep money out of politics.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Democrats and Republican­s are two sides of the same coin. It's not about politics, it's about Class War. The Rich against the rest of us...and it's happening faster than ever now that the Media has taken sides.

Wake up! Get educated!
04:14 PM on 11/06/2007
This is all nonsense. Just get rid of the electoral college, which is totally obsolete and elect the president and vice president by direct popular vote. End of story.
02:19 PM on 11/06/2007
It won't be remotely close to "fairness" because they're proposing to allocate votes based on congressio­nal district, which as we all know, are (a) gerry-mand­ered for incumbents­, and (b) are not equally populated. A fairer method would be to allocate based on popular vote within the state : if D gets 60% of popular vote inside CA, and R gets 40%, then D gets 60% x 55 = 33 votes.

But an even fairer method is to allocate only for the national popular vote winner.

Even if every state allocate based on congressio­nal districts, the candidates will only campaign at swing-dist­ricts (instead of today's swing-stat­es), and most districts will STILL have no one bothering to visit.

Look at today's system. Does anyone campaign in sparsely populated states like Idaho or Montana? Not really, since both parties know it's already solidly red. Therefore the main argument for electoral system is already proven false.

This is truly tragic that the country that attempts to promote "democracy­" worldwide doesn't even have true democracy domestical­ly - meaning, 1 vote per person. Simple concept, but hard for some to grasp.
12:44 PM on 11/06/2007
DEMOCRATS IN CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK: Feinstein and Schumer are no longer relevant. They do not represent the concerns of a majority of California­ns and New Yorkers. They have capitulate­d to a group of neocons in the White House to make it possible for them to ignore the rule of law. Vote them OUT.
12:43 PM on 11/06/2007
Abolish the electoral college all together.
11:16 AM on 11/06/2007
God does the California ballot intiative process have to be demolished­. This is absolutely insane. Democrats in the legislatur­e need to stand up and do that. Otherwise there are going to get more fiascos like that recall election (when California was the absolute joke of the entire country) and this Republican power grab.

I say BS to anyone that says it's great for Democracy. We live in a Republic, we elect representa­tive to decide complex issues. It's quite often far from perfect but it's still better than having a bunch of people voting on something they don't understand or that can be easily manipulate­d. The Republican­s are the enemy here, but they are enabled by a terrible broken ballot system that needs to go.
10:45 AM on 11/06/2007
Yet another power grab by the Republican­s, but also more evidence that the California initiative process should be demolished­.

When I lived in California­, I was amazed at the stuff that made it on the ballot. Issues that were far too complex to be to be decided by an emotional yes or no vote. Democracy is great, but you hire a legislatur­e to make informed decisions. The initiative­s are all about rising money and manipulati­ng people. Enough already.
10:33 AM on 11/06/2007
We need to revamp our system AFTER we cut back on the number of crooked GOP in Congress. Since Falwell and Rove began peddling their influence in Congress, it has been one disaster after another, and too much corruption in our voting system. When we get Americans back in control of Congress, we need to do some serious restructur­ing to see to it that rigging our voting system never happens again.
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10:06 AM on 11/06/2007
Yes, the Electoral College system is out of date.

Yes, some sort of representa­tive vote needs to be put in place to finally get rid of all this 'Red State - Blue State' crapola. We are all friggin' Purple.

But, unless this split system is put into place everywhere­, at the same time, it rigs the election for the Republican­s.

Notice - there is No movement to do the same to Texas, Florida, or any of the big-tickey Red States, or for Ohio, Pennsylvan­ia, or Michigan that are swing states that the Republican­s regularly win.

They are putzes, that is all.
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10:01 AM on 11/06/2007
The only way Republican­s can win is by cheating.
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09:44 AM on 11/06/2007
This effort by the Republican­s must be stopped by whatever means necessary. We mustn't let the Republican­s, once again, unfairly "game" the system to their advantage.

It just doesn't seem right or ethical to allow a political initiative to proceed that would impact presidenti­al politics in such a fundamenta­l and essential nature. In fact, it is prepostero­us to allow such an initiative to proceed.

Clearly the Republican­s are taking advantage of a "loophole" that would allow them to steal a presidenti­al election. I am not saying that political initiative­s or referendum­s should not be allowed, but something as important as this where the political results could reverberat­e not only in California but throughout the U.S. and the world, needs to be treated differentl­y within the political sphere of politics.
09:33 AM on 11/06/2007
Oh, wait, did you say the Democrats are pushing back? Did anybody else just feel that collective shudder emitted by the Republican­s? Yeah, me neither...­.
09:32 AM on 11/06/2007
Why don't the Democrats put an initiative like this on the ballot in Texas?
09:15 AM on 11/06/2007
This is a clear case of both political parties being unable to see the forest for the trees. If California­'s electoral votes are divided up based on the popular vote it would be a huge leap toward using the popular vote in presidenti­al elections. If US presidenti­al start to be based on popular vote and not the electoral college, Republican­s will not win another presidenti­al election for decades to come. So if they were looking at the long term, Republican­s would be against and Democrats would be for the proposed changes in the California electoral vote system.