Laura Ingraham, Headed For A Hotel Balcony In Iraq Real Soon

Huffington Post   |  Rachel Sklar   |   November 13, 2007 09:54 AM


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We know Laura Ingraham is a very smart woman. I'm already hearing howls from the commenters, but it's true: She's a former Supreme Court law clerk, Reagan Administration speechwriter, multiple author, and high-rated radio host (the most listened-to female radio host in the country) and is also an articulate and telegenic TV commentator. She's not a fringe player, either; she was just on "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos and was just signed to Fox, where she now appears regularly on O'Reilly. This is fact, not opinion — and does not go to the content of her remarks, or books, or how, er, nice she comes off as being. (I'll save you wondering: She doesn't.) So with a woman as intelligent as Ingraham, as used to fending off perceived liberal attacks, you'd think she'd have come up with something a little sturdier to support her position that the Iraq war was going well yesterday on "The View."

"We have, right now in Iraq really good news coming out of Baghdad," said Ingraham. Well, let's hear it! "We have violence down, sectarian violence down, the al-Qaeda is being pushed out ...you can stay with your narrative that we're big losers and we're going to lose in Iraq, the truth of the matter is things are turning around for the better."

Okay. Well, that is debatable and has definitely been debated, but Ingraham makes those statements without really providing backup, which would be nice, or context, which is key. It's true that numbers are down in recent months — roadside bombs and deaths of both Iraqi civilians and American soldiers. But Ingraham doesn't acknowledge a key factor in the dropped numbers: Population displacement. The Iraqi refugee crisis is huge, as giant chunks of people have been driven from their cities by the same sectarian violence she claims is down. Well, sure — it's down now, after displacement or ethnic cleansing. So that's sort of a Pyrrhic victory. Also, the sad fact remains that 2007 — with six weeks to go — has become the deadliest year for American soldiers in Iraq.

Ingraham knows this, of course, but rather than grapple with what is really happening over there — complicated progress, hobbled by steps back with every stride forward — Ingraham turns it into an issue of patriotism. Hear the tone in her voice as she responds to Barbara Walters, who makes the legitimate point that the "I think this is a country that is still unhappy about it." (For evidence of same, see: Election 2006, House and Senate.) Responded Ingraham: "But could it change, Barbara? Do you want to win in Iraq?" Again, the tone: Slightly accusatory, more than a little condescending. The "Do you want to win in Iraq?" canard is oft-used by Conservatives in these debates, explicitly making it an us-versus-them equation, where the only answer is "yes" which means the only alternative is to support the war. The real question is not "Do you want to win?" but "What is the best and safest way to end the war, to keep our troops and nation safest?" but that's a much more difficult question, and one which has to acknowledge the patriotism of both sides. Ingraham, of course, is not interested in such discourse.

It's a tired argument, one that should really be obsolete in 2007, after so many false promises and hoped-for-corners-turned and six-more-months and obfuscations and scandals. But it's the kind that Ingraham has been putting forth for literally years, back when she claimed that journalists in Iraq weren't bothering to go out with troops because it would mean leaving their hotel balcony. This, of course, fed straight into the "media ignoring good news from Iraq" meme — even though journalists in search of a feel-good story would either find it cut short by a murder or be injured before they could even get there. Is it important to note that there have been improvements in Iraq? Absolutely. Is it just as important to do it responsibly? Yes. But that's a "View" Laura Ingraham has much less of an interest in taking.

Laura Ingraham: War In Iraq Is Going Well
[HuffPo]

p.s. Also, she was wearing black sequins on O'Reilly last Friday. I'm sure she was going out, but, well, it was weird.

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- comatoast I'm a Fan of comatoast 4 fans permalink

So Ms. Ingraham says there is "really good news coming out of Baghdad."

A war that should have never been fought.
Soldiers who should not have died.

What is the "good news" Laura?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 11/15/2007

Rachel, thanks for going on Laura's radio show to talk about this piece. Was a good debate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 11/15/2007

Hey, Rachel... Just wanted to say thanks for going on Laura's radio program. Looking forward to some good debate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 11/15/2007

Need I rehash the Dems grandstanding and quotes?

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- KKK Kleagle and Democratic Senator Robert Byrd, October 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
History - as much as you all try to re-write it, it's still there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 11/14/2007
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OK Laura Ingram, I’ll tell you what.

Let me build an addition to your house for $40,000 and I’ll have it done in six weeks.

Now let me come back once a year and ask you for more money and tell you its going to take a little longer than we thought but it should be done in a few more weeks.

If I did that to you would you say its going well? How many years would you let me get away with that? 1 year, 2 years, 3 years?

Now let me come in and torture some of your friends and neighbors because I think they are causing problems. Would that be OK? Would you say its still going well?

Now after a few years let me say that I am not actually building an addition to your house I am going to occupy part of it for many years to come. Is it still going well?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 11/13/2007

Laura has written a book about the coursening of the culture. And YET, she has signed on to Bill O'Reilly who shows more salacious footage than even the rest of Fox. Hypocracy rules.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 11/13/2007
- esl I'm a Fan of esl permalink

Responsible reporters have written that al Sadr has stopped his army from fighting. He did this once before and death rates went down. At any time he could order his men to start fighting again. Things are not going well in Iraq when an employee of a private firm shoots and kills an unarmed Iraqi cab driver in cold blood. How many of our men and women in uniform were put in danger because of that? No, things are not going well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 11/13/2007
- MrJoyboy I'm a Fan of MrJoyboy 26 fans permalink

George Bush owes a lot to bin Laden and al Qaeda. They got him elected to a 2nd term and allowed him to keep the support of 30% of the country, which is why Bush has never been serious about his pursuit of the bad guys. BTW, Ingraham also owes her Fox gig to the terrorists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 11/13/2007
- Plus15 I'm a Fan of Plus15 6 fans permalink

When Ingraham used the usual hostile Republican anti-american device "Do you want to win in Iraq?" line on Barbara Walters of all people, I half expected Barbara to haul off and punch her lights out. Maybe they were sitting to close for Barbara to have the range for a good wallop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 11/13/2007
- chin075 I'm a Fan of chin075 7 fans permalink
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The us-versus-them issue, of course, seems to always come down to the fact that most liberals, and more than a few disillusioned Republicans, are questioning everything they can possibly question about this war, while a relatively small but very vociferous chunk of the right wing repeats the same old truth-twisting, simplistic arguments. The reality is that the population is (I hope) slowly beginning to wake up to the fact that many wars like this one have been manufactured for the same reasons as always, to benefit the same people as always, and those who wage them always frame the argument in the most simplistic, base-pandering black-and-white terms. If the Iraq debacle gets us closer to a complete collective awakening, all the lives lost will not have been lost in vain. Corollary: questioning things is not unpatriotic, it is the mark of intelligent, independent people. Blindly following nonsensical rhetoric is the mark of sheeple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 11/13/2007
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