Obama Camp Using Disputed Account Of Clinton's "20-Year Plan" To Hit Hillary

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First Posted: 11-19-07 12:03 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Barack Obama has unveiled a new line of criticism against Hillary: In speeches he's started to point to the allegation made in Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta's Hillary book that the Clintons secretly formulated a 20-year-plan to deliver the presidency first to Bill, and then to Hillary.

"I'm not in this race to fulfill some long-held plan or because it was owed to me," Obama said the other day.

Asked if that were a reference to the Gerth allegation, an Obama spokesperson left virtually no doubt that it was, telling Newsday: "Barack Obama has not been mapping out his run for president from Washington for the last 20 years like some of his opponents."

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Barack Obama has unveiled a new line of criticism against Hillary: In speeches he's started to point to the allegation made in Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta's Hillary book that the Clintons secretly f...
Barack Obama has unveiled a new line of criticism against Hillary: In speeches he's started to point to the allegation made in Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta's Hillary book that the Clintons secretly f...
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Obama's record is virtually identical to Hillary's since he entered the Senate. He has run such an amateurish campaign that a load like Hillary, someone whose world view is so limited that she actually supports Bush's wars and Bush's world view, someone whose judgment has been so piss poor that she voted against the overwhelming intelligence that Saddam had no WMD's and was an enemy of al Qaeda and more than half of her party in Congress for Bush to go to war, appears no worse than he does on the war given his 2013 remark. Whatever excuse she uses to justify the vote proves that she lacks judgment on such a profound level that she shouldn't be a dog catcher, much less a President. And then she compounds it by voting for Kyl-Lieberman.

And even having done that, Obama's campaign has been so amateurish and so stupid, that she looks head and shoulders smarter than he is and Edwards is. The corporate-­controlled media was really smart. They took mediocre, limited view Clinton as the front runner and designated as her "rivals" two incredibly poor candidates, so she looks good compared to them and people don't judge her objectively, based upon her record and her piss poor judgment, but how she compares to her two bozo rivals

And on the Republican side, all 4 are violent warmongering barbarians.

Obama simply offers nothing to challenge Hillary, as his record in the Senate is identical and his campaign gaffes show he doesn't know what he's doing. 2013?????? -- from a supposedly anti-war candidate. What an idiot!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 11/19/2007
- Ato I'm a Fan of Ato permalink

Hillary is funny!
"There is one job we can't afford: on-the-job training for our next president," Clinton told a crowd in Knoxville, IA today.
I've gone through the list of Presidents of the United States and there is no Hillary Clinton in it.
So where and when was she President?
Oooh! She thinks being the wife of a President gave her the experience to be President! So would she say then that Laura Bush is also experienced enough to be President?
Such a stupid and illogical thought process can only come from the Clinton camp. Intelligent people will not buy the premise of such an argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 11/19/2007
- slc20 I'm a Fan of slc20 4 fans permalink

Good Lord!

Stop putting words in Obama's mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 11/19/2007

Hillary thinks being married to the President constitutes "experienc­e." or that voting for a disastrous war based on misunderstood intelligence is "experienc­e."

Hillary is sounding as deluded as Bush and as disconnected as Cheney.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 11/19/2007
- MarkieBee I'm a Fan of MarkieBee 13 fans permalink

Will someone please tell me how Hillary is more experienced than Obama? I want facts listed, not the same old "she was first lady for eight years" crap. Obama has twice as much elected legislative experience which means he's authored and passed much more meaningful legislation than Hillary ever hopes to starting with sweeping ethics legislation in Illinois AND in Washington. To get Bush to sign an ethics law, now that's really something. He's a member of the Foreign Relations Committee as a first-term senator. It normally takes multiple terms to get that post. While there, he reached across the aisle and got important nuclear non-proliferation legislation passed. As a state senator he helped 150,000 children get health care coverage and stopped for review a criminal justice system that had already put innocent men to death. What has Hillary done along those lines? I'm waiting. I was hoping to get some proof on just how much "experience" she gleaned from her HUSBAND's administration. But I guess I'll have to wait until 2009 or later when they finally get around to releasing her records.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 11/19/2007
- LeeFromVA I'm a Fan of LeeFromVA 10 fans permalink

Hillary wants to be president, Obama wants a better America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 11/19/2007

Obama's lack of political skill is showing again. This is his response to Clinton's now apparent tactic to paint Obama as inexperienced.

Her tactic is much better than his. In the end, I think the American people are more comfortable with a known commodity than a newbie who can pull heart strings in speeches. Besides, the "20 year plan" business sounds like and is a conspiracy theory that most will simply dismiss. His lack of experience is a meme that will settle itself inside our brains, causing unease with him.

The Clintons are really much more experienced at this. But that is not surprising.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 11/19/2007
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 377 fans permalink
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I'm shocked this is posted at all, but since it is - no surprise that in order to comment on it, one must link through to the Politics section of the blog. *yawn*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 11/19/2007

Let us all face it , what has Obama accomplished for all the media in general to push him for president. Furthermore, Republicans are pushing him for President because it would be a slam dunk for a Republican President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 11/19/2007
- snruB I'm a Fan of snruB 5 fans permalink
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Well, looks like the Shillarys are out in mass!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 11/19/2007
- MidSection I'm a Fan of MidSection 13 fans permalink

Osama Obama is done. Cooked through well done. He was terrible in the last debate ans just proved how full of nothing he was. Good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 11/19/2007
- RusStyles I'm a Fan of RusStyles 23 fans permalink

How I interpret his statement:

Winning the white house race and fulfilling a life time ambition is more important than anything else, such as revamping Immigration policy, educational system; equalizing the judicial system, etc...I simply don't get the feeling that that's what HRC is about. I do believe Obama's true intention is to change politics as usual. People that are against him will construe everything he says or does into something negative. When he failed to point out any of HRC's flaws, you O-phobes said he was too soft. Now that he's articulating thier policy differences, you say he "attacking" HRC and abandoning his promise to run a clean campaign. So, for you O-haters, there's nothing he could do or say to please you, except announcing that he's dropping out of the race.

Why even waste your time on blogs articles concerning Obama? To spread your hate, and hope that it will influenece others?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 11/19/2007

Obama is desperate. He is looser who looks meaner and meaner every day. HIs response to the Novak column was pure inexperience and stupidity. If the stakes were not so high, it would be funny. As I have said before, the fact that you can give a good speech to a very receptive audience (hungry Democrats) does not make you a good leader. Based on his bashing of HRC yesterday after Novak's latest Republican talking points, I sure don't want him dealing with any foreign powers that might have nuclear weapons. He would have us in war faster than George Bush. Talk about not checking out the facts or having any kind of cool reflection - this guy is a hot head and kind of thin skinned.

GO HILLARY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 11/19/2007

My Uncle Danny dies on Omaha beach so people like the Clintons would not be running things. It is part of our 1000 year plan to get rid of tyrants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 11/19/2007
- Blutus I'm a Fan of Blutus 11 fans permalink

He's toast.

After his last debate,

he is toast.

Get out now
and either cut the CD
or learn to dance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 11/19/2007
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