Days Before Thanksgiving, Dems Draw Line In The Sand On Iraq

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First Posted: 11-20-07 12:30 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Democrats Draw Line In The Sand Over Iraq

Democratic House leadership drew a line in the sand over Iraq War funding today, setting the tone for a messaging battle that will likely play out over the Thanksgiving break.

Speaking in front of a press gaggle, Reps. David Obey, D-WI, and Jack Murtha, D-PA, reasserted that there was enough money to fund the war through February, and that if the President wanted the additional $50 billion passed by the House of Representatives, he merely had to tell Republican leadership -- which filibustered the measure in the Senate -- to change its stance.

"Let me repeat," said Obey, "the money has already been provided by the House of Representatives. If the president wants that $50 billion released, all he has to do is to call the Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, and ask him to stop blocking it. That phone number is (202) 224-2541, in case anybody's interested."

Prior to House Democrats passing the $50 billion appropriations, President Bush had called on Congress to fund the entirety of his $196 billion war supplemental request. The President has used the difference in dollar figures as well as the impasse in the Senate to raise concerns that the troops in Iraq are going unfunded and other foreign policy missions were being squeezed. Obey attacked that notion as well.

"The Bush Administration is promoting a lot of stories over the past week about nasty actions in the Pentagon that will have to be taken if Congress doesn't provide a bridge fund for the Iraqi war," said the Wisconsin Democrat. "Like so many other things in this town, those stories have things backwards."

As reported by the Huffington Post, the Democrat war supplement proposal is the party's most aggressive funding measure since taking over Congress. In addition to insisting on a full withdrawal plan the bill would also require that troops be fully trained and equipped before being sent into the field and that the government abide by the Army Field Manual with respect to prohibiting torture.

Reflecting the frustration with the Republican Party's obstruction of the measure, Obey declared at today's conference that: "I would be happy to provide them with the entire $200 billion that they've requested for the remainder of the year -- of next year, I should say -- if the administration accepted these modest and reasonable conditions."

Despite the tough rhetoric, few people inside or out of government anticipate that the Democrat's bridge fund will become law. The impasse between the two parties remains relatively wide and President Bush's veto looms in the distance. As such, much of the battles to be waged over the upcoming vacation weekend will likely focus on messaging, with the Democrats framing the war as a disastrous policy and unevenly burdensome.

"This week around our Thanksgiving tables there'll be two families," said Rep. Murtha. "One who say they support the troops -- and they do -- but they have sacrificed very little. They haven't had their taxes raised. They haven't been drafted, and they don't really participate in the war. The other are military families who have husbands and wives, sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters in the war theater. It's them who shoulder the burden of the president's Iraq policy. America owes them our thanks on this Thanksgiving weekend."

Democratic House leadership drew a line in the sand over Iraq War funding today, setting the tone for a messaging battle that will likely play out over the Thanksgiving break. Speaking in front of a...
Democratic House leadership drew a line in the sand over Iraq War funding today, setting the tone for a messaging battle that will likely play out over the Thanksgiving break. Speaking in front of a...
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- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 65 fans permalink

Now you know that you are expendable, nothing
to do with "Patriotism." In fact, all people
who think they are patriotic are the dumb and gullible ones, the smart ones (e.g. Bush/Cheney) know how get out of it, ergo they
ram it down your throat what "patriotism" means to them. And you deserve it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 11/20/2007

Good, stop being pu**ies, and rein in this "President". When you work through the holiday, I'll believe you.

Shut Mr. Bush down, and give us yet one more thing to be thankful for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 11/20/2007
- Bobleblah1 I'm a Fan of Bobleblah1 21 fans permalink

2 Questions for anyone on this web site:

DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE ANYTHING COMING OUT OF PELOSI'S MOUTH?

WHAT MEANINGFUL ACCOMPLISHMENT HAS PELOSI ACHIEVED? (NOTE, MEANINGFUL)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 11/20/2007
- farseer I'm a Fan of farseer 7 fans permalink
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"It's them who shoulder the burden of the president's Iraq policy. America owes them our thanks ..."

Murtha's right, but grammar is wrong - should be "It's they who ..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 11/20/2007
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 11 fans permalink

These so call leaders we have do not know how to fix things. First you have to take care of the people. The military people can not wait. I served under these tactics. These tactics only made my job harder. It cause all of us to work longer hours. Ok 10 hour a day to 14 hour shifts most of the time working weekends. They will just lay off civilian workers then the troops will pick up the slack. We had to send guy and gals out on many details while doing there regular jobs. It can get very crazy. Troop moral goes to the bottom. This is not a time to do this around the holidays. The troops will not get a break. They will be working thru out the holidays. You will have to get approval just to buy toilet paper and small things as that. It gets crazy. The only thing happen we just become cannibals. Strip on item to fix the next until we get the money. Then this creates a back log of work. The pile become very large. This means long hour shifts until the pile is manageable. This can be months to a year depending what your job is.

I hope they understand this. Oh most of them have not spent a day in the military!!!!!

They should not have voted for this war in the first place!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 11/20/2007

The script the Bush/Cheney Fascist/Criminal Enterprise can be found in-"The 12 Year Reich" by Richard Grunberger, and articles by Victor Klemperer. Google "the 14 points of fascism" and "Fascism Anyone" by Dr. Lawrence Britt. First, the Bushies used black mail on the voters promising a tax cut that benefited mainly the very rich and now they are using extortion to get excessive funding for the phony War On Terror in Iraq. Iraq is just a smokescreen for the largest robbery in history of present and future taxpayers. Forty percent of funds for Iraq goes to crony contractors that have no bid or inflated contracts. They were running their Criminal Enterprise out of the White House until Abrahmoff got busted and it seems they have moved that operation into the Pentagon. Who pays? Your children and grand children will be paying for possibly 40 years. Are you happy now with your suicide voting that will have your offspring economically enslaved for a long, long time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 11/20/2007
- mouselion I'm a Fan of mouselion 123 fans permalink
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Bush was all over "the will of the people" in '04, when he believed he had all kinds of political "capital" for Iraq. Where is his pseudo-populous bent now? The same place that his extreme spending habits have gone when it comes to domestic spending. (That's where).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 11/20/2007
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 11 fans permalink

Speaker of the house Nancy better do something or she will lose her seat as a congress woman. Senator Reid he better do something or he will no longer be the head dog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 11/20/2007
- Joeblue I'm a Fan of Joeblue 5 fans permalink

My last post was for shitin the machine not the one above it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 11/20/2007
- snownobile I'm a Fan of snownobile 5 fans permalink

Am I now in the "Twilight Zone" ?
We will see how this lasts .............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 11/20/2007

Why can't Congress of something bi-partisan for a change?
Since an Iraq withdrawl date is totally negative, why do we have to publish it?
How about the two sides coming to agreement on a "SECRET" WITHDRAWAL DATE?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 11/20/2007
- ohiomark I'm a Fan of ohiomark 117 fans permalink

The Democrat Party: Finding new ways to surrender.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 11/20/2007
- booker52 I'm a Fan of booker52 24 fans permalink
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I will believe this when it really happens. Until then, not so much!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 11/20/2007

Impeach the criminals Bush and Cheney.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 11/20/2007
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

Sounds good. So, are we going to form a Study Group to determine what Benchmarks should be set regarding how long the line will actually remain drawn in the sand?

Remember to keep republicans away from the sandbox or they'll mess up the line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 11/20/2007
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