Pay-To-Praise? Firefighter Who Cheered Rudy Now Campaign 'Political Strategist'

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First Posted: 11-20-07 05:35 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Rudy Giuliani has a firefighter problem. Following up on earlier criticism, a group of 9/11 family members and firefighters met on Monday at Dartmouth College to launch a campaign against the former New York City mayor and current Republican presidential candidate for what they deem to be massive failures before, during and after the attacks of 9/11.

But at least one member of the FDNY continues to offer his support to the former mayor -- and may be getting paid for it.

John R. Orlando, who serves with Engine 216 in Brooklyn, New York, has been cited prominently as a Giuliani supporter. Last June, in a New York Times article detailing the mixed reviews Giuliani has among the city's 11,000-membered firefighting force, Orlando said he regularly saw Giuliani at fires despite suggestions otherwise.

Orlando was also quoted as saying the "bottom line is, I think he's been more of a friend to firefighters than I've seen in the news. I don't think all the criticism is warranted."

Did those comments come with a reward? Three months after he praised Giuliani, Orlando found himself on the former mayor's payroll. On September 28, 2007, the Giuliani campaign paid one John R. Orlando more than $1,580 for what they deemed on a campaign filing as "political strategy consulting."

When asked about the arrangement -- after repeated attempts for comment -- Giuliani spokesperson Matt McKeon questioned the question.

"Are you suggesting that firefighters aren't capable of political strategy?"

Pressed to describe what strategy, exactly, Orlando provided, McKeon replied: "I'll get back to you."

He never did.

Orlando, who is still with the FDNY, was also reached via phone. He was asked for comment about both his consulting for Giuliani and his thoughts on why the former mayor has been poorly received among his fellow firefighters. Like McKeon, he too said he would reply at a later time and never did.

During the Monday meeting, the 9/11 Parents & Families of Firefighters plotted the formation of a 527 committee to run an advertisement campaign against Giuliani's presidential campaign. "TV made him a hero, and we'll use TV to take him down," New York Fire Chief Jim Riches told ABC News. Among the issues raised were Giuliani's failure to upgrade the FDNY's faulty radio equipment, his decision to put New York's terrorist command center in the World Trade Center - a known terrorist target - and the hastiness of the post 9/11 cleanup job, which resulted in illness among many service members and the abandonment of buried bodies.

"It's our intention to set the record straight about the mistakes of the Giuliani administration," Norman Siegel, a lawyer for the group, told the Huffington Post. "The 9/11 family members have been speaking out about these issues for many years and they were listening and watching the Giuliani campaign people as they've used the story of 9/11. They decided it's enough."

Rudy Giuliani has a firefighter problem. Following up on earlier criticism, a group of 9/11 family members and firefighters met on Monday at Dartmouth College to launch a campaign against the former N...
Rudy Giuliani has a firefighter problem. Following up on earlier criticism, a group of 9/11 family members and firefighters met on Monday at Dartmouth College to launch a campaign against the former N...
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- USMC1980 I'm a Fan of USMC1980 11 fans permalink

This is one of only a handfull of firefighters who are actually supporting Giuliani, mostly out of a misguided loyalty to the GOP.

The vast majority of Firefighter on both sides of the political divide are doing every thing they can to show that Giuliani's record on 9/11 is mixed at best, and in many ways it's not even that good. Giuliani was a substandard mayor before and after 9/11...it'­s to bad the media is so bias towards him, that people like Brian Williams, Tim Russert, Chris Matthews and others...d­on't have the guts to investigate these many claims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 11/21/2007
- TLV I'm a Fan of TLV 119 fans permalink

Giuliani has plenty of campaign cash, but it's not coming from the Republican base. They detest his pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage policies.

Where do you suppose this money is coming from? Anyone want to try to guess?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 11/20/2007

Imagine someone hiring a supporter to work on a political campaign. How dastardly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 11/20/2007
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There's always been that occasional traitor who has been willing to turn on his own for a few pieces of silver. Nice endorsement, Judas! I wish that you had a conscience, and that the memories of the brave firefighters who lost their lives on 9-11 because of the corrupt deal Rudy made for their radios that did not work woule mean more to you than a chump-change payday. Nice endorsement, Judas! Enjoy your 30 pieces of silver, knowing that you're helping to elect a man who is responsible for the deaths of your fellow firefighters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 11/20/2007

So Rudy is a worm? Doh! Thats like asking if Bush is a liar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 11/20/2007

So Rudy is a worm? Doh! Thats like asking if Bush is a liar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 11/20/2007
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1581 fans permalink
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Firefighters who don't support Giuliani are phony firefighters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 11/20/2007
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I am willing to accept payment for my endorsemen­t...all presidential candidates are welcome!!!

http://www.cosgroveandjeff.blogspot.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 11/20/2007
- Purcy I'm a Fan of Purcy 11 fans permalink
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There are people who have always been able to buy everything, and do. Guiliani is disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 11/20/2007

I agree with StillAmused. This story is far more important than the so-called "planted questions" (suggested questions is what the student actually claimed). HuffPost should headline this story. What does it say about a candidate when he has to PAY someone to say something nice about him? Sort of like Karen Hughes praising Bush, and then cashing in on big government jobs and a book deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 11/20/2007
- ptarantino I'm a Fan of ptarantino 8 fans permalink

He's the lowest of the low & more people need to know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 11/20/2007

No one on planet Earth has profited more from 911 than Rudy,(Except Halliburtan)and while it's not his fault that suddenly he was offered a buttload of money for speaking engagements, It would have been a lot cooler if any of that money helped the real hero's who actually risked their lives on that sad day. To hear him speak, you'd think Rudy ran through fires to rescue people.. He's a troll..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 11/20/2007

They are made for each other...li­ke a shovel is for Shi_t.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 11/20/2007
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 261 fans permalink

Apparently, everyone has a price. Orlando's is $1,580.

No doubt, his expertise as a "consultant" will prove invaluable to Rooty's doomed campaign. He can supervise the burning of all the other payoff records and extinguish Rooty when HE crashes and burns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 11/20/2007
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