The Campaign Escalates

AP:

Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama intensified the bickering Sunday over their competing health plans, reflecting the crucial stakes as Iowa's leadoff caucuses in early January approach.

Clinton said Obama's proposal was "crafted for politics" and the latest example of his shifting policy positions. Obama said much the same of her approach.

Read the whole story: AP

Comments

[ColoradoDan]

09:06 AM on 11/26/2007

Yes, Huma Who? Wow is all I can say.

She is hot, devout Muslim and with Hillary 24/7. Hill's right hand man - one might say.

Even Bill, at his peak, never scored this kind of class on the side. He's gotta be jealous.

http://www.nohillaryclinton.com/2007/07/26/hillary%E2%80%99s-mystery-woman-who-is-huma/

http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/11/hillary_clintons_lesbian_lover

[Sundialsvc4]

08:59 AM on 11/26/2007

This is nothing more than an empty side-show designed to distract the public. I give it none of my time and will give it none of my votes.

[USMC1980]

08:04 AM on 11/26/2007

Look, I realize this is part of politics, but I still think these two should calm down and save their venom for the Republicans. I also hope that whichever one of them wins the nomination (or Edwards), Democrats have got to ALL support the nominee. We can't have another friggen Republican in the WH next year...that's the bottom line.

[KBAR]

07:58 AM on 11/26/2007

Huma who?

[longislandlol]

07:12 AM on 11/26/2007

It's healthy to see the differences played out-

[KRANKY]

06:52 AM on 11/26/2007

Do not be fooled into a false Hobson's Choice.

We can have the righkind of experience AND new directions:

Kucinich 2008!

A good second pick or VP would be Bill Richardson.

[Centauri]

06:15 AM on 11/26/2007

This was Obama in 2004 agreeing with Bush. This is from his debate with Alan Keyes.

OBAMA: Well, I think that we have to do everything we can diplomatically. I think that the Bush administration has done the right thing in ratcheting up the pressure on Iran, and attempting to ratchet up some pressure on North Korea to see if they will stand down with respect to the development of nuclear weapons.

I must say that I am less optimistic about the threat, or, our ability to deal with the threat in Iran, in part as a consequence of Iraq. Because I think that the Iranians at this stage are fairly confident that it's going to be difficult for us to mount any significant military strike there, but I would reserve all options. And I have said this publicly, that, you know, we have to have to have all military options reserved in order to deal with these potential nuclear threats.

Let me just add one thing that I think is critical, and that is that one thing that it appears Ambassador Keyes and I may agree on is that the single biggest threat that we face is a nuclear weapon or some weapon of mass destruction. What that means is that we have to be extraordinarily aggressive and vigilant in controlling nuclear proliferation. We have a nuclear proliferation treaty and strategy that has failed. I think it failed in Iran. It also failed in North Korea. That has to be rewritten and renegotiated. And I think that we have to rapidly accelerate the manner in which we are locking down nuclear materials in the former Soviet Union. You know, the Lugar-Nunn bill has shown itself to work. Unfortunately, right now it's on a thirteen-year timetable, in which the United States puts in resources to make sure that those resources are secured. I think we can rapidly advance it to the point where we get it down to four years.

[akhinaten]

05:55 AM on 11/26/2007

Hillary Clinton and Political plagiarism ..................experience to take credit for others work.


Hillary has claimed to have an experience in running the nations economy and its foreign relationship lets see whose experience she is steeling. The post of US secretary of states (the face of America to the world) was held under the Bill Clinton administration by two individuals first was Warren M Christopher (1993-1997) and the second person was Madeleine K Albright (1997-1999).

The post of US secretary of treasury the chief financial office of the United States was held by two people under the Clinton administration. The in the first term (1993-1995) it was Lloyd M Bentsen.
Second person to hold the office under the Clinton administration was Robert E Rubin (1995-1999)


What I don’t understand is how the media can allow the type of political plagiarism that Hillary is practicing. Would it be okay in your office for you to claim credit for the work that others have done, especially when you are doing it to get promotion and in competition with others?

[IkeChicago]

05:53 AM on 11/26/2007

If experience was such a major asset, why did Einstien write his theory of relativity in his early 30’s and why did Jefferson write the constitution in his early 30’s, why did they not rely on the more experienced people. Why did Bill Gates develop Microsoft, what about Google and Youtube and all the other innovations. Where were all the experienced people and what were they doing.

Hillary pushing the experience thing is not going to work, we need people with new ideas to push us forward, all the software companies know this. Just like people in the computer world become obsolete, people in politics also become obsolete, they tend to hand on to old ideas too long, the result being the blocking out of new ideas.

However if experience is such a major factor, Hillary should just look around, she is not the most experienced candidate on the stage. Is she saying that the country in electing Bill Clinton made a mistake, surly George Bush was the more experienced candidate in ’92 and what about all the other experienced candidates all around Bill Clinton. If experience is all Hillary Clinton has to offer us, then I would suggest the country look elsewhere.

Hillary Clinton in an extemporaneous debate with Barack Obama or Joe Biden would look like a fish out of water, the woman is so scripted, if her writers go on strike, she would collapse like a blow up toy.

[Centauri]

05:43 AM on 11/26/2007

Obama is buying endorsements from law makers. The campaign denies quid pro quo. Sounds like politics of old to me. I am sure obama supporters here would love to hear this story.
I love cadidates getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/25/AR2007112501454.html?hpid=topnews

[avraamjack]

04:53 AM on 11/26/2007

Even though many may like the policies that Senator Clinton proposes, they should also consider her record , just as Senator Clinton insists.
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The last Clinton Administration, when faced with the fact that protection rackets where torturing people with poison and radiation, chose to avoid its responsibilities to incarcerate the criminals and protect the citizenry.
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Instead, they made a deal with the criminal gang stalker protection rackets to leave them alone and to consequently abandon the citizenry.
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Do we want a President who sells out the citizenry for votes?
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Do we want a President who sends a "crime does pay" message to society?
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Would you vote for a President who has signed nonagression deals with the KKK or the Nazi party? Gangs that torture with poison and radiation are much like the KKK and Nazi Party.
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We do not need a sellout President. We need a principled leader President.
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I could be wrong since I was not there when the sellout decision was made but since nobody will admit the sellout they do not have to defend it.
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If you are one of the few who do not know what the above refers to, do a web search for “gang stalking” to see the tip of the dirtberg. Do it before you decide to reply to my post.
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[godlessclif]

03:21 AM on 11/26/2007

These people are buying TV sets and getting cable
and not insurance. Hillary believes they will economize if the money is taken out of their pay before they can waste it on rugs and furniture.
Insurance is much more important to the people contributing to Hillary's campaign fund.

That is people who own stock in the insurance companies that will not need salemen if insurance is compulsory.

End freedom of choice Vote Clinton

[Justtellthetruth]

01:25 AM on 11/26/2007

lets say a cheap insurance plan for a family of 4 costs 1200 per month now. lets say that either clintons or Obamas plans shave 2800 off that yearly cost, so that it only costs 12000 per year. Thats still WAY outside of the budget for a family living on 30 or 40 thousand gross per year by a gigantic margin. So, Obamas plan is at least a partial success for a lrager number of people, while Hillary's plan is a disaster for the Millions and Millions of families who will be penalized for not being able to comply with the freaking LAW shes going to pass that says all americans must buy insurance at these spectacularly inflated prices OR ELSE!!! That law will make her bosses at the big 7 insurance companies really happy. It is sort of like an insurance draft system. No wonder she is the second largest recipient of PAC funds from the Big 7 insurers.

Speaking of the Draft, Just wait until she unveils (only after we would be suicidal enough to elect her) what she has in store for us on behalf of her bosses from AIPAC and the war machine that also pay her so much money.

She will gladly sacrifice your childrens lives and limbs on the alter of her policical career in order keep the pointless and avoidable wars in the middle east going that satisfy the geopolitical ambitions of those that fund her.

So far, she has backed Iraq and Lebanon, while pushing hard to start a war with Iran.

[godlessclif]

01:08 AM on 11/26/2007

"You are hurting America"...Jon Stewart

No more debates and Hillary and Obama breathe a sigh of relief. Now that can let marketing sell their phony selves, and they can hide their real agendas.

Only the evil MSM could call that taking off the gloves. More like removing honesty from the loop.

Now they can concentrate on the phonies and black out anyone who loves America.

[lentinelia]

12:49 AM on 11/26/2007

Godzilla vs Mothra.

Now this is something the press can understand.