So Much For Sympathy: Clinton Booed Over Immigration At Forum

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The people got more microphone time than the politicians.

Five Democratic presidential candidates who spoke at the Heartland Presidential Forum Saturday in Des Moines could do little more than nod and listen as person after person - mostly out-of-state residents - shared emotional stories of perceived injustice.

And the audience of 3,600 did not hesitate to express emotion. As they listened to descriptions of loss of health insurance, the stench of a nearby factory farm, or a family split up by immigration officials, the crowd frequently yelled out: "That ain't right!" and booed.

Hillary Clinton, a U.S. senator from New York, felt the glare of their displeasure after Billy Lawless, a Chicago immigrations rights organizer, asked her if she'd commit to giving undocumented workers a path to citizenship in her first 100 days as president.

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- fourex See Profile I'm a Fan of fourex permalink

Good thing she didn't talk about keeping Bush's occupation of Iraq in place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 12/03/2007
- truthyguy See Profile I'm a Fan of truthyguy permalink

I said this but I meant that. I'm now just clarifying a position I had when I was repositioning my stance before the polls on the issue were known to me. I have always been as consistent on this issue as I have on all other issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 12/02/2007
- RileysMom See Profile I'm a Fan of RileysMom permalink

Heelarious! The woman gives the right answer and its wrong - give it to Obama and lose the general election. Iowa is gonna get what it deserves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 12/02/2007
- gujarbhai See Profile I'm a Fan of gujarbhai permalink

Who in their right mind would think that a presidential candidate can make a pledge to fix immigration problem in first 100 days.

I lived in Iowa for couple of years in late 90s and always thought that Iowans were very politically savvy and aware of the political reality. I seriously think these were the Iowans booing to a candidate for not making such a pledge..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 12/02/2007
- MNmommy See Profile I'm a Fan of MNmommy permalink

Hmmm, where's my comment about this Booing headline being a gross exaggeration?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 12/02/2007
- MNmommy See Profile I'm a Fan of MNmommy permalink

What a gross over-exaggeration this headline is. She wasn't really *booed* per se - there was a tepid and somewhat negative response - but there really wasn't any booing. Another part of it is - that Clinton had to do the debate via satellite because she couldn't get into the closed airport.

She gave a realistic answer to Lawless and said that she'd work towards his question, but that the congress had to create the legislation to make it possible. D'oh - that's the way our government works - Presidents can promise the world - but they can't deliver it without the congress. WTF? Do we want more Executive Orders and Signing Statements?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 12/02/2007
- Purple Girl See Profile I'm a Fan of Purple Girl permalink

Didn't watch - same sh*t different city.

glad to hear Kucinich did well- the one of only two patriots running- Gravel too.

I stopped listening to the Cardboard Cut Outs, about 2 months ago.

You voted for invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq- off the list

You voted for the Patriot Act- off the list

Continue to support funding for the wars- off the list

Refusing to Impeach and Indict this administration- off the list.

Guess who I'm voting for in the Primaries- it really is only a coin toss between the two.

The rest have been Re- Tooled by the Corporationists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 AM on 12/02/2007
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif permalink

I guess CNN did not select the crowd in Des Moines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 AM on 12/02/2007
- nanderson65 See Profile I'm a Fan of nanderson65 permalink

Thanks Sunshine for the caucus link...that was great.

Dennis can sure give a good old-fashioned, rousing political speech! He gets so fired up and the crowds start cheering and everybody jumps up and yells and it's just great.

Especially when you know that he does the things he says.

The complaint about politicians is they don't do what they say. Dennis does, has and will at every level of government.

I hope the rest of you all out there just freakin get off of the centrist war monger-lite candidates. The ones that always let you down when THEY vote.

Don't you want someone who is on your side?
Do you want a corporatist to decide your fate?

What's that quote about two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 12/02/2007
- SunshineDaydream See Profile I'm a Fan of SunshineDaydream permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 12/01/2007
- snruB See Profile I'm a Fan of snruB permalink

New Iowa Poll:

Obama 28%

Clinton 25%

Fired up! Ready to Go!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 12/01/2007
- bbln See Profile I'm a Fan of bbln permalink

Now why isn't HuffPo denouncing this as not just one plant but hundreds...from Ben Smith of Politico http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1207/Other_side_of_the_immigration_debate_comes_to_Iowa.html#comments

'The group, despite the Iowa location of this event, appears to have brought a large portion of the couple thousand people here from Chicago (they keep cheering at the mention of the city, and the Gamaliel Foundation, for which Obama was once an organizer, chartered two buses) and the questions are heavily focused on issues related to immigration, punctuated by the occasional chant of "Si se puede."'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 12/01/2007
- realitytrumpsbull See Profile I'm a Fan of realitytrumpsbull permalink

Won't it be fun if they just give blanket
amnesty to everyone that wants it? We'll be
out of water in a week! Woohoo! Go liberals,
giveitaway giveitaway now...something something...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 12/01/2007
- BUSHsurvivor See Profile I'm a Fan of BUSHsurvivor permalink

Why is HuffPo making headlines that make it appear that Hillary was looking for sympathy?

Oh, also, I didn't get the answers to that question from the other candidates, besides Dodd.

Oh and on a side note, your ads make it time-consuming to load a webpage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 12/01/2007
- dryfactoidobotanoid See Profile I'm a Fan of dryfactoidobotanoid permalink

clip here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBU46xnc-EA
Hillary booed at the Iowa Heartland Democratic forum

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 12/01/2007
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