Former CIA Officials: Bush Iran Claims "Preposterous"

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First Posted: 12- 5-07 05:27 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Intelligence Officers Doubt Bush Iran Story

Four former CIA officials who provided intelligence information to past presidents described as preposterous President Bush's claim that he was unaware until very recently that Iran had stopped its nuclear weapons program in 2003.

"It's unbelievable," said Melvin Goodman, who worked for the CIA from 1966 to 1990 and now is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy.

Goodman's assessment of Bush's assertions were very similar to those of Larry C. Johnson, who worked at the CIA from 1985 to 1989 and from 1989 to 1993 served as Deputy Director in the U.S. State Department's Office of Counter Terrorism; Ray McGovern, a former CIA official who gave daily intelligence briefings to George H. W. Bush while he was vice president; and Bruce Riedel, who spent over two decades at both the CIA and National Security Council and is the former National Intelligence Officer for Near East and South Asian Affairs

At a December 4 (Tuesday) press conference, Bush asserted:

I was made aware of the NIE last week. In August, I think it was Mike McConnell [Director of National Intelligence] came in and said, 'we have some new information.' He didn't tell me what the information was; he did tell me it was going to take a while to analyze.

Why would you take time to analyze new information? One, you want to make sure it's not disinformation. You want to make sure the piece of intelligence you have is real. And secondly, they want to make sure they understand the intelligence they gathered: If they think it's real, then what does it mean? And it wasn't until last week that I was briefed on the NIE that is now public.

McGovern was totally incredulous: "The notion that the head of National Intelligence whispered in Bush's ear 'I've got a surprise for you and it's really important, but I'm not going to tell you about it until we check it out' -- The whole thing is preposterous," he said in an interview with The Huffington Post.

Riedel agreed, saying "the president either chose to ignore what he heard or his director of national intelligence is not doing his job." Riedel said he doubted McConnell failed to "do his part of the bargain."

"To me it is almost mind boggling that the President is told by the DNI that we have new important information on Iran and he doesn't ask 'what is that information?'" said Riedel, who is now a Senior Fellow at the Saban Center For Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution.

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He said it wasn't the DNI's responsibility to tell the President to "stop hyperventilating about the Iranian threat."

"The President and his policy advisers - National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley in particular - have the responsibility of keeping their eye on the intelligence and to take into account new information as it comes along," Riedel told The Huffington Post.

Bush and Cheney have repeatedly warned of the dangers of Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, with no mention of the intelligence findings that Iran had stopped its program in 2003. On October 17, Bush was asked at a press conference, "But you definitively believe Iran wants to build a nuclear weapon?" He replied

I think so long -- until they suspend and/or make it clear that they -- that their statements aren't real, yeah, I believe they want to have the capacity, the knowledge, in order to make a nuclear weapon. And I know it's in the world's interest to prevent them from doing so. I believe that the Iranian -- if Iran had a nuclear weapon, it would be a dangerous threat to world peace. But this -- we got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel. So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. I take the threat of Iran with a nuclear weapon very seriously.

White House Press Secretary Tony Fratto declined Wednesday to discuss what McConnell told Bush at their August meeting.

Q ...Was there any indication from McConnell of the nature of the intelligence in the meeting in August?

MR. FRATTO: I can't give you more detail on what Director McConnell said to the President.

Larry Johnson pointed out that the National Intelligence Estimate is actually the result of an analysis of information from all intelligence agencies. The material on which the NIE report was based had been acquired well before the report itself was issued to the public.

When that information first became available to the CIA and other agencies, it would automatically have been included in the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) months before the NIE report, Johnson said. The President, Vice President, Defense Secretary and Secretary of State are all given daily accounts of the PDB, Johnson said. McGovern and Goodman agreed.

Four former CIA officials who provided intelligence information to past presidents described as preposterous President Bush's claim that he was unaware until very recently that Iran had stopped its nu...
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- Rocketmind I'm a Fan of Rocketmind 3 fans permalink

We DARE TO CALL IT TREASON!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 12/06/2007
- lgillooly I'm a Fan of lgillooly 67 fans permalink
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How many lies and crimes wil be ignored.This nightmare could get a lot worse if they are not stopped. Please,for the love of God and Country Impeach now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 12/06/2007
- wagadog I'm a Fan of wagadog 43 fans permalink

Really. And all this beating the war drums for Iran has been misdirecting our attention from REAL danger to America:

ZOMBIES!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoXgRtDysLY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 12/06/2007
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After 'they' are caught making a fifth consecutive lie, contradicting themselves
each time, they finish it off with 'mistakes were made' and leave it at that. What
has happened to our country?

Our supposedly liberal and independent press then takes their cue, and stops
asking questions. It isn't just BushCo who has no credibility left, now America has
no faith left for the MSM, SCOTUS and Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 12/06/2007
- Nyla785 I'm a Fan of Nyla785 9 fans permalink

Another example of cherry-picking the intell you want to push the policy. We are sooo poorly served by this president and his crew of thieves. What is Wolfowitz doing back in our government?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 12/06/2007
- Dandy12 I'm a Fan of Dandy12 2 fans permalink

Bush is doubtful about the intelligence...
Just imagine, he should be very doubtful every time he looks in the mirror.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 12/06/2007

can we be certain..........

that incompetence is not an impeachable offense?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 12/06/2007
- THISTLE I'm a Fan of THISTLE 61 fans permalink

Enough of the dancing around, the excuses, the
"what he really meant to say," BUSH IS A LIAR,
EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF HIS MOUTH IS A LIE.
And so called, "journalists" should ask the
obvious question directly to BUSH - HOW CAN
YOU EXPECT ANYONE TO BELIVE YOU - WHEN YOU
HAVE LIED OVER AND OVER AGAIN - AND YOU KEEP
LYING?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 12/06/2007

George Bush Presenile Dementia Video - posted
by ChicagoBruce Sun Oct 10, 2004 (From the diaries -- Daily Kos)

This is the footage that started the story that first appeared in the Atlantic - George Bush from ten years ago - dramatically different than the Bush you're used to. And he obviously hasn't gotten better since.

The big story - "a striking decline in his sentence-b­y-sentence speaking skills." The reason? One doctor says "presenile dementia" a catch-all term for earlier-than-normal cognitive declines (probably "dry-drunk syndrome"). This video intercuts footage from 10 years ago with recent footage - the difference is dramatic and disturbing. And obvious.

See it yourself at http://www.adbuzz.com/bushbuzz.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 12/06/2007

Oh God, look at the picture of him with his hand to his head. Now he is having delusions that he is Carnac the Magnificent. The next 11 months can't go fast enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 12/06/2007

Story says that Bush was previously informed about Iran's ' nuclear ' program ( they didn't say ' nucyoolur '... That was his confusion ! )

-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 12/06/2007
- FlowerGirl I'm a Fan of FlowerGirl 25 fans permalink

Isn't it time we stopped worrying about what puppet Bush says or what his masters want and started listening to those who have been truthful with us from the beginning, people like Richardson and Kucinich-- people despised by the MSM for their truthfulness?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 12/06/2007

"...it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury; signifying nothing."

Pretty much sums up all of Bush's rhetoric.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 12/06/2007

Where are the guys in the white coats with the big net?....'C'mon George..Time for a bit of a lie down'...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 12/06/2007
- skindoggy I'm a Fan of skindoggy 9 fans permalink
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The larger problem is we have lost all credibility with the rest of the world. Between the falling down of our country's fundamental principles regarding human rights, debating nuanced polices about "what is torture", (can't even believe this country is even discussing this), the Bushies have screwed up the foreign policy of this country so badly, that tomorrow, when there is a real threat to the world, like the little boy who cried wolf, no one will listen. It used to be that when the U.S. stated something to the world regarding international issues it meant something... This mis-trust poses a bigger potential security threat to our nation than any terrorist could do.
Skindoggy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 12/06/2007
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