Former CIA Officials: Bush Iran Claims "Preposterous"

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First Posted: 12- 5-07 05:27 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Intelligence Officers Doubt Bush Iran Story

Four former CIA officials who provided intelligence information to past presidents described as preposterous President Bush's claim that he was unaware until very recently that Iran had stopped its nuclear weapons program in 2003.

"It's unbelievable," said Melvin Goodman, who worked for the CIA from 1966 to 1990 and now is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy.

Goodman's assessment of Bush's assertions were very similar to those of Larry C. Johnson, who worked at the CIA from 1985 to 1989 and from 1989 to 1993 served as Deputy Director in the U.S. State Department's Office of Counter Terrorism; Ray McGovern, a former CIA official who gave daily intelligence briefings to George H. W. Bush while he was vice president; and Bruce Riedel, who spent over two decades at both the CIA and National Security Council and is the former National Intelligence Officer for Near East and South Asian Affairs

At a December 4 (Tuesday) press conference, Bush asserted:

I was made aware of the NIE last week. In August, I think it was Mike McConnell [Director of National Intelligence] came in and said, 'we have some new information.' He didn't tell me what the information was; he did tell me it was going to take a while to analyze.

Why would you take time to analyze new information? One, you want to make sure it's not disinformation. You want to make sure the piece of intelligence you have is real. And secondly, they want to make sure they understand the intelligence they gathered: If they think it's real, then what does it mean? And it wasn't until last week that I was briefed on the NIE that is now public.

McGovern was totally incredulous: "The notion that the head of National Intelligence whispered in Bush's ear 'I've got a surprise for you and it's really important, but I'm not going to tell you about it until we check it out' -- The whole thing is preposterous," he said in an interview with The Huffington Post.

Riedel agreed, saying "the president either chose to ignore what he heard or his director of national intelligence is not doing his job." Riedel said he doubted McConnell failed to "do his part of the bargain."

"To me it is almost mind boggling that the President is told by the DNI that we have new important information on Iran and he doesn't ask 'what is that information?'" said Riedel, who is now a Senior Fellow at the Saban Center For Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution.

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He said it wasn't the DNI's responsibility to tell the President to "stop hyperventilating about the Iranian threat."

"The President and his policy advisers - National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley in particular - have the responsibility of keeping their eye on the intelligence and to take into account new information as it comes along," Riedel told The Huffington Post.

Bush and Cheney have repeatedly warned of the dangers of Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, with no mention of the intelligence findings that Iran had stopped its program in 2003. On October 17, Bush was asked at a press conference, "But you definitively believe Iran wants to build a nuclear weapon?" He replied

I think so long -- until they suspend and/or make it clear that they -- that their statements aren't real, yeah, I believe they want to have the capacity, the knowledge, in order to make a nuclear weapon. And I know it's in the world's interest to prevent them from doing so. I believe that the Iranian -- if Iran had a nuclear weapon, it would be a dangerous threat to world peace. But this -- we got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel. So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. I take the threat of Iran with a nuclear weapon very seriously.

White House Press Secretary Tony Fratto declined Wednesday to discuss what McConnell told Bush at their August meeting.

Q ...Was there any indication from McConnell of the nature of the intelligence in the meeting in August?

MR. FRATTO: I can't give you more detail on what Director McConnell said to the President.

Larry Johnson pointed out that the National Intelligence Estimate is actually the result of an analysis of information from all intelligence agencies. The material on which the NIE report was based had been acquired well before the report itself was issued to the public.

When that information first became available to the CIA and other agencies, it would automatically have been included in the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) months before the NIE report, Johnson said. The President, Vice President, Defense Secretary and Secretary of State are all given daily accounts of the PDB, Johnson said. McGovern and Goodman agreed.

Four former CIA officials who provided intelligence information to past presidents described as preposterous President Bush's claim that he was unaware until very recently that Iran had stopped its nu...
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- PaleMail I'm a Fan of PaleMail 13 fans permalink

Bush can't remember what he was told in August on the critical Iran nuclear issue. Let's face it, he fried his brains a long time ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 12/06/2007
- ptarantino I'm a Fan of ptarantino 9 fans permalink

Rep. John Conyers made a blog yesterday, please focus your energy on writing to him, encouraging him to move foward on the impeachement of Dick Cheney.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-conyers/setting-the-record-straig_b_75448.html

If public opinion is strong enough, he will move on this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 12/06/2007
- JSquercia I'm a Fan of JSquercia 3 fans permalink

Sadly I CAN imagine Uncurious George not bothering to ask WHAT new information .Dubya doesn't need NEW information especially if it contradicts his preconcieved notions .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 12/06/2007

So, the director of intelligence went into the chimp's office(playpen)and announced that they had new information on Iran. But he didn't tell the chimp what it was and the chimp was left none the wiser.
I remember he was informed by Andrew Card that a second plane had hit the WTC and then walked away. He did not offer any extra details of the event, nor did the chimp ask for any.
Imagine this situation: You are a top notch COE and one of the perks of the job is your very own top of the range Rolls Royce.
As you are entering a building to attend an important meeting with a group of junior executives, you see, or are informed that someone has just crashed into your shiny Roller. Your immediate thought is that the person was a bad driver and you express no concern about the damage to your prized set of wheels.
During the meeting, some five minutes later, you assistant approaches you and tells you that someone else has smashed into your second company limmo and that the company is under attack.
Would you not, as any normal person, ask for some further details such as how, when who why and many other details that would put the events into some perspective? Also, would you be not a little surprised and wouldn't this manifest itself by facial expressions of disbelief, questioning gestures of the hands and other types of involuntary body-language?
For the chimp to say he didn't know is a lie. He knew in August, just as he did on the 11th of September 2001.
He is the mother(f$&ker)of all liars. Madam Speaker, would you like to say something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 12/06/2007
- Jonahson I'm a Fan of Jonahson 6 fans permalink

Bush just want to threathen Iran because he believes they are arming the insurgents. The state of the US Army are at the moment the worst Bush can do is aerial bombing and missile strikes at selected targets but he will be opening another Pandora's Box if he does that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 12/06/2007
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

Dumbya is really OUT there. The man is an imbecile. A delusional idiot. Too much cocaine and booze. Not enough education. A silver spoon in his mouth. I read about Hitler towards the end of WWII. He was acting very delusional like Bu$h is now. Loyal staff members were leaving him. He was firing Generals that didn't agree with him. He was basically alone in the bunker with his optimism. He honestly thought that Germany would still win the war just a couple of days before he finally ended his own life. Sound familiar? The real irony is that the Bu$h family history is aligned with German history. In WWI, Samuel Bu$h (Dumbya's great grandfather), one of the merchants of death, sold arms to the Germans while the U.S. was in the war. I would call that treason. Prescott Bu$h (Dumbya's grandfather) made the bulk of his fortune by investing in and profiting from the Hitler war machine. Prescott was later charged with trading with the enemy in 1942 (another treasonable offense), but never spent time in jail and the press covered all this up as Bu$h became a Senator in 1952. The media has always covered things up for the Bu$hes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 12/06/2007
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I wish I could draw cartoons. I can see it in my head right now: Bush, Cheney, Perino and a few other high-profile staff stand laughing on the White House lawn, surrounded by a herd of cows. All are either in the act of throwing the bovine-supplied ammunition at a flock of reporters or in various stages of reaching down to re-load.

One or two of the reporters has an umbrella, a couple are actually taking notes. The rest carry plates, bowls and spoons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 12/06/2007

All Crooks are Liars
Part One

The treasonous lying war criminal and thief formerly known as "our president" - though he was never legally elected - is still lying, and will continue to lie even after he leaves office - Oh, when will that day come!

I do not need a moron in the person of a spokesperson - who is PAID TO LIE (check with Scott McClellan) - to tell me the meaning of the words of her moron boss.

We can call Bush a liar because he declared Saddam to have nuclear weapons AND he declared Saddam to be behind the 11 September 2001 debacle that Bush failed to prevent. Cheney still prostitutes this lie at all his drink-tank dinners. Rice continues to prevaricate and hasn't given a straight answer on anything for years (check the "extraordinary rendition" files).

And if there is a liar in the Fright House today who has LED OUR SOLDIERS TO MURDER A MILLION INNOCENT PEOPLE for no reason, then it is perfectly okay to use this FACT for "political purposes", those purposes being to prevent another war criminal from occupying that office - and another lair. Seems to be plenty of liars running on the Gulag-Of-Pigs "ticket".

Bush wants to bomb Iran, and Cheney wants to drink Iranian blood while helping Halliburton "rebuild" Iran, perhaps so it can look like Iraq. They will cry every day, "Support our troops!", while Iranian children in their nightshirts blow them up with bombs that no longer have to be snuck across the border.

Billions of dollars can then be moved from the US treasury into the pockets of his friends.

THERE IS NO OTHER AGENDA HERE.
(cont.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 12/06/2007

All Crooks are Liars
Part Two

Karl Rove is working to steal your next election so this fiasco of shenanigans can continue on indefinitely. Karl Rove and Bill Kristol have to keep stealing so they can keep eating. Ghouliani-Nosferatu wants to shove his sperm-splattered fingers into that pie, and to bomb everyone he hates.

Expect more "compassionate conservatism", and so, expect more Katrinas; expect more stupid unjustified wars; expect more massive deficits; expect more middle class thrown into ruin; expect more dead babies in our hospitals; expect more hungry and homeless....

But more than anything else - EXPECT MORE LIES...!!!

All the tax money that these bastards steal and misuse came from the hard work of people like you and me, and not from the thieving war criminals WHO OCCUPY OUR NATION ILLEGALLY - we are occupied by friends of foreign oil powers.

This tax money is for the US people, not for Iraq, and not for Sodomy Arabia, and not for Israel, and not for Halliburton.

Why are your roads and bridges falling? Why are your elections stolen? Why are your streets unsafe? Why are your babies dying in the hospitals? Why are your children unable to read?

Do I really have to answer these questions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 12/06/2007
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 75 fans permalink
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At least now we know why we've been bombarded with "evidence" that iran is supporting/supplying the insurgents in iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 12/06/2007

The surrender monkeys win one for a change. Subversives put out a political statement to help a terrorist country and all the leftists want to jump onto the band wagon. Just as they did when North Korea claimed to have stopped their program as they blithely went on with it while Albright toasted them and danced a whirly gig with the maxium leader. The absurdity is that if it were true, why didn't the Iranians just say so and allow the inspectors in to verify? Of course for the surrender monkeys, they would rather support terrorists than our duly elected President. If they can only get a Democrat in the White House they can all wave the white flag and bow down to the enemies of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 12/06/2007

Todays top reasons for going to war with Iran are:

10) Its all Jimmy Carters fault
9) They talk funny
8) They dress funny
7) They have beards
6) They took those hostages 28 years ago
5) It would be fun
4) The MIC is bored with Iraq, and wants a new market
3) They have too much oil
2) Islamofascism
1) Jesus said to "go to War" to Bush in a dream

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 12/06/2007

Can we go to war with them anyway? Just because it would be fun, and so that Blackwater and Halliburton could get some business?? Aww c'mon people its juat a little war we are talking about. You gotta fight wars. See you in Church! ps got any dope? thanks Rush L

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 12/06/2007
- batmanindy I'm a Fan of batmanindy 9 fans permalink

W is a lying moron and I am sick of him being the illegal occupant of America's WHITE HOUSE. Congress needs to wake up and get the impeachment of this IDIOT done NOW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 AM on 12/06/2007
- AxelDC I'm a Fan of AxelDC 88 fans permalink
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What little credibility Bush had before this debacle is now completely lost. Bush lied to us up to the 2006 election that Iraq was going swimmingly, and savaged his critics, and then was forced to admit that he lied to us.

Now he told us that Iran was a threat, and no one cared because we know he is a liar. Then his own administration comes out and tells us he is lying, and then he says that he just didn't know, and more members of his administration tell us he is lying again.

How many lies do you have to tell before your are permanently branded a liar? How does a nation follow a leader who can't tell the truth about going to war?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 12/06/2007
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