Former CIA Officials: Bush Iran Claims "Preposterous"

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First Posted: 12- 5-07 05:27 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Intelligence Officers Doubt Bush Iran Story

Four former CIA officials who provided intelligence information to past presidents described as preposterous President Bush's claim that he was unaware until very recently that Iran had stopped its nuclear weapons program in 2003.

"It's unbelievable," said Melvin Goodman, who worked for the CIA from 1966 to 1990 and now is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy.

Goodman's assessment of Bush's assertions were very similar to those of Larry C. Johnson, who worked at the CIA from 1985 to 1989 and from 1989 to 1993 served as Deputy Director in the U.S. State Department's Office of Counter Terrorism; Ray McGovern, a former CIA official who gave daily intelligence briefings to George H. W. Bush while he was vice president; and Bruce Riedel, who spent over two decades at both the CIA and National Security Council and is the former National Intelligence Officer for Near East and South Asian Affairs

At a December 4 (Tuesday) press conference, Bush asserted:

I was made aware of the NIE last week. In August, I think it was Mike McConnell [Director of National Intelligence] came in and said, 'we have some new information.' He didn't tell me what the information was; he did tell me it was going to take a while to analyze.

Why would you take time to analyze new information? One, you want to make sure it's not disinformation. You want to make sure the piece of intelligence you have is real. And secondly, they want to make sure they understand the intelligence they gathered: If they think it's real, then what does it mean? And it wasn't until last week that I was briefed on the NIE that is now public.

McGovern was totally incredulous: "The notion that the head of National Intelligence whispered in Bush's ear 'I've got a surprise for you and it's really important, but I'm not going to tell you about it until we check it out' -- The whole thing is preposterous," he said in an interview with The Huffington Post.

Riedel agreed, saying "the president either chose to ignore what he heard or his director of national intelligence is not doing his job." Riedel said he doubted McConnell failed to "do his part of the bargain."

"To me it is almost mind boggling that the President is told by the DNI that we have new important information on Iran and he doesn't ask 'what is that information?'" said Riedel, who is now a Senior Fellow at the Saban Center For Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution.

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He said it wasn't the DNI's responsibility to tell the President to "stop hyperventilating about the Iranian threat."

"The President and his policy advisers - National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley in particular - have the responsibility of keeping their eye on the intelligence and to take into account new information as it comes along," Riedel told The Huffington Post.

Bush and Cheney have repeatedly warned of the dangers of Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, with no mention of the intelligence findings that Iran had stopped its program in 2003. On October 17, Bush was asked at a press conference, "But you definitively believe Iran wants to build a nuclear weapon?" He replied

I think so long -- until they suspend and/or make it clear that they -- that their statements aren't real, yeah, I believe they want to have the capacity, the knowledge, in order to make a nuclear weapon. And I know it's in the world's interest to prevent them from doing so. I believe that the Iranian -- if Iran had a nuclear weapon, it would be a dangerous threat to world peace. But this -- we got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel. So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon. I take the threat of Iran with a nuclear weapon very seriously.

White House Press Secretary Tony Fratto declined Wednesday to discuss what McConnell told Bush at their August meeting.

Q ...Was there any indication from McConnell of the nature of the intelligence in the meeting in August?

MR. FRATTO: I can't give you more detail on what Director McConnell said to the President.

Larry Johnson pointed out that the National Intelligence Estimate is actually the result of an analysis of information from all intelligence agencies. The material on which the NIE report was based had been acquired well before the report itself was issued to the public.

When that information first became available to the CIA and other agencies, it would automatically have been included in the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) months before the NIE report, Johnson said. The President, Vice President, Defense Secretary and Secretary of State are all given daily accounts of the PDB, Johnson said. McGovern and Goodman agreed.

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- kfdan I'm a Fan of kfdan 23 fans permalink
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The biggest idiot to ever squeeze his backside into the oval office is now finding his trousers and knickers below his knees! If this wasn't such a serious threat to the country, it would be funny in the extreme!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 12/06/2007
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bushcheney lied to us? Now that's really news!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 12/06/2007
- WIDESTANCE I'm a Fan of WIDESTANCE 3 fans permalink

it looks as if bushco's ceo is about to get the axe -

hallicheney has to throw somebody to the wolves - might as well be the sock puppet -

let the frenzy begin,

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 AM on 12/06/2007
- whizkid I'm a Fan of whizkid 28 fans permalink

Better be careful.
Every AM radio station and FOX will say tommorow that Bush has the facts and you're anti-American.
This latest report from the CIA is BS and Pelosi backs up the AM radio, FOX, and the GOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 12/06/2007

I wouldn't ask him what time it is. Apparently he is lying every time he opens his mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 12/06/2007
- whizkid I'm a Fan of whizkid 28 fans permalink

Again, its a matter of Confict Politics.
I never thought much of Reid, but Pelosi is a true disaster and dissapointment.
You get nowhere with feeble abject weaklings like these two.
Better to have Webb and Kucinich as Senate and House leaders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 12/06/2007
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 171 fans permalink

Bush again lies, this time people do not die, thankfully.

What is so absurd about the president's transparent lies is how quickly those on the far right rush to defend him. Now they argue the people who wrote the NIE are confirmed anti-Bushies and drew their conclusions for ideological reasons (all to punish Bush). No matter how transparent he is, the far right can admit Bush lies.The whole group of authoritarian conservatives are shameless. They will leave their footprints on anyone to achieve their hardline policy goals, anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 12/06/2007
- MoeJava I'm a Fan of MoeJava 35 fans permalink
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Can we impeach this guy already? Our Nation is sullied and ruined by this Tag-team of Bush and Cheney. Whatever happened to the Presidential Daily Briefing? Or is Bush confusing this with someone trying to "pants" him? Like they did when he was head Cheerleader during College? OMG - "head cheerleader" - is that some reference to why all his corporate buddies find him so near and dear?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 12/06/2007
- whizkid I'm a Fan of whizkid 28 fans permalink

Bush looked like he'd run out of Oxy.
Sorta like those days when Rush sounds all pissy.
Combine it with intel that says "You're Pluked".

This is when Americans have the most to fear.
We have the crooks backs against the wall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 12/06/2007
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The look on Bushes face has changed. Kind of like
"no ones going along with my 'catapulting the propoganda' anymore. Shucks. Where's turdblossom?".

Has America woken up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 12/06/2007
- whizkid I'm a Fan of whizkid 28 fans permalink

Odd how Bill O'Reilly has gone mad the past few days saying Joe Biden has called Bush a liar over ten times on his FOX program.

Biden never called Bush a liar.
Though he should have in no uncertain terms.

But hey Bill, Biden is Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
He's allowed to dis Bush all he wants.
What gives you the right to slander Senator Biden on the Roger Ailes network?

We're gonna run you off the airwaves ya tory swine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 12/06/2007
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 274 fans permalink

Who's on first?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 12/06/2007

This will blow everyone away. Cheney was planning to strike Iran but the Democrats winning Congress ruined this plot.

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/11/21/the_next_act_will_the_republicans

According to Amy Goodman who interviewed Seymour Hersh. Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist for the New Yorker. His latest article is called "The Next Act: Is a Damaged Administration Less Likely To Attack Iran, or More?"

Per Seymour Hersh the CIA released a report over 1 year ago saying Iran had not WMDs, but Cheney still wanted to go to war with Iran.

Wow! Cheney has only been stopped by the Democratic controlled Congress, and Joe Biden as the head of the Foreign Relations Committee (Senator Hegel is also on this committee).

Electing a Democratic Congress in 2006 - stopped WWIII. But we are still fighting the battle - it is not November 2008.

Read this - it is mind blowing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 12/06/2007
- whizkid I'm a Fan of whizkid 28 fans permalink

My old man watches FOX.
As I said how stupid Bush is he asked how could he be stupid yet smart enough to be president.
Billo had Dennis Miller on at the time.
I said like Dennis he's smart enough to sound smart to you.
This is key to the GOP and FOX.
And the past two phoney presidential elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 12/06/2007

This was reported in Amy Goodman's Democracy Now on August 10th, 2007.

"Cheney Urges Military Strikes on Iran
Vice President Dick Cheney is reportedly urging President Bush to directly confront Iran by launching airstrikes at suspected Iranian training camps inside Iraq run by the Quds force, a special unit of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. According to the McClatchy newspapers, Cheney made the proposal several weeks ago but the idea was opposed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. On Thursday President Bush warned Iran that it would face consequences if they continue to arm and train insurgents in Iraq.

President Bush: “One of the main reasons that I asked Ambassador Crocker to meet with Iranians inside Iraq was to send the message that there will be consequences for people transporting, delivering EFPs, highly sophisticated IEDs that kill Americans in Iraq. Prime Minister Maliki is visiting in Tehran today. His message, I’m confident will be, stabilize, don’t destabilize. And the sending of weapons into Iraq is a destabilizing factor.”


"Sen. Biden Suggests Criminal Charges Against Bush Officials
Impeachment has been making headlines recently in the city of Kent, Ohio. Democratic Presidential candidate Senator Joe Biden has suggested criminal charges could someday be filed against members of the Bush administration. In a recent interview with Newsweek, Biden said there are alternatives to the impeachment of President Bush. Biden said: “I think we should be acquiring and accumulating all the data that is appropriate for possibly bringing criminal charges against members of this administration at a later date.”


Please note: This Iran war plans have been going on for a number of years which Joe Biden as Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee is aware of, as well as the intelligence reports of the CIA which were actually made public 1 year ago after the Democrats took control of Congress.

See again Amy Goodman - Democracy Now. August 10th, 2007.

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/8/10/headlines#7

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 12/06/2007
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