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Huckabee Apologizes For Mormon Remark, Romney Makes Nice

December 12, 2007 06:08 PM


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All is apparently forgiven between Republican frontrunners Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.

The former Arkansas governor told CNN that he apologized to the former Massachusetts governor for his quixotically intentioned remark to the New York Times Magazine. Huckabee asked a Times reporter, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

After the Iowa debate today, Huckabee told CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer, "I went to Mitt Romney and apologized to him, because I said, I would never try, ever, to try to somehow pick out some point of your faith and make it, you know, an issue, and I wouldn't. I've stayed away from talking about Mitt Romney's faith. And I told him face to face, I said, 'I don't think your being a Mormon ought to make you more or less qualified for being a president.' That has been my position."

Now, well, it's water under the bridge. Romney took Huckabee at his word. As his spokesman, Kevin Madden, told the Huffington Post:

"The governor accepted the apology. He continues to believe that this campaign should not be about questioning a candidate's faith. While it is fair to criticize an opponent's record or policy positions, it is out of bounds for one candidate to question another's personal faith."

Earlier in the day, the tone coming from the Romney campaign was not so conciliatory. Appearing on NBC this morning, the candidate himself declared that, "attacking someone's religion is really going too far." Adding, "It's just not the American way, and I think people will reject that."

We'll see if we've heard the last of religion as a campaign issue. If Lawrence O'Donnell has his say... this would be just the beginning.

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- charon See Profile I'm a Fan of charon

Romney and Huck sound like two inmates from a nuthouse arguing. Next it will be "My god can beat up your god!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 12/14/2007
- evahartselftlanguages See Profile I'm a Fan of evahartselftlanguages

TO: Ex-gov Michael Huckabee A ConNOSERVative? Continued from above post. December 13, 2007


The United States Government should Serve the people; it does not rule them. Vanza Devereaux A Government of a Free Nation 63. It is a Government of all Americans. Elliot Liebow '93

The First Amendment states,"No one religion shall be established nor a Law made to interfere with worshiping God. It is Constitutional to not think of one religion above another nor to argue about this."

Where are my Christian Rights? I quit evil,corrupt jobs and please remove time limit off Welfare and keep in Social Security for all. The Lord states, "Have Paths for my people to follow." Proverbs 29:14 "A King keeps his Throne forever if He Cares for the Rights of the Poor."


THE GOOD MAN:

The hermit does not pay for what he gets because he enjoys all the comforts of a civilization that he owes to the efforts of others, yet he does little good in the world. He has no interest in helping the poor,suffering, and the struggling. He is a distastefully, self-centered man. Therefore I neither approve of him nor respect him. From English Grammar and Composition by John E. Warriner 48 and also a reader for college entrance examinations. Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109



    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 12/13/2007
- evahartselftlanguages See Profile I'm a Fan of evahartselftlanguages

TO: Ex-Gov Michael Huckabee December 13, 2007


Where were you when Care not Cash was put in here in San Francisco? Do you not understand that Christians need money to go job seeking, job faxes,phones, clean clothes,pain needs, healthful recreation!!

Where were you when the Welfare Reform Bill of 1996 was passed? Did you not understand that many evils as stated in Bible exist and that longtime evils exist. For example the years of persecution of the Jewish people in Egypt.
I had to quit a number of evil, corrupt jobs ans discovered scarce food,jobs resources in U.S. All Courts including Wash DC Supreme Court turned down case. A knowing person knows good people probably need Welfare than bad people since they commit crimes for theirs.

Rabbi Charles A. Kroloff states in his book,"Most homeless are the victims of crimes not the perpetrators. That low-wage families and job workers,children the victim of abuse and violence,veterans,aids victims are on Welfare. Women who are raped on Welfare too. 93 Liebow. In November 23, 2002 Contra Costa Times it states,"In many states whole families are taken off Welfare. Children keep money in other states, but mothers get less money." Do you read the newspaper?

A homeless person being removed from public place stated,"This is our last precious freedom to be on public property." Millions are being told that there are no jobs for them and useless. Horrible conditions can exist. I hope you'll remove the Time Limit from Welfare and Keep in Social Security. It is a Government of all Americans. Capitalism has been good to many but not good to poor. Thus we need to help the poor." Elliot Liebow 93 Eva Hart Christian Army 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 12/13/2007
- Nova16 See Profile I'm a Fan of Nova16

Well, faith based politics running amock--who would have guessed? These two low-level defenders of their "faith" need a dose of rational thought and common sense to spare us from their continued haggling over religious claptrap. It is annoying and tiresome for religious nonsense to be a part of the political discourse when this country has so much to do to "recover" from Bush malfeasance and misfeasance in the highest office in the land and to set a new course for our country's future. My "faith" is that the American people will remove the republican fascist elements from the government and restore our once proud democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 12/13/2007
- WilliePilgrim See Profile I'm a Fan of WilliePilgrim

Think we'll get Huck to apologize to one of the other great denominations that he continually offends? I'm speaking of the Satanists. They believe in the same god and same theology, albieit inverted as in a mirror image, but the hocus pocus is the same and the history is the same and these people who worship the complimentary side of Huck's belief system have constitutional rights as well. So? Will he defend the constitution? Can a satanist apply for a "faith based" initiative give-away and be sure they wont be discriminated against? Probably one of the best uses of the idea of "zero tolerance" would be to see it applied to religion in government as Mitt recently reminded us by invoking Kennedy though espousing the exact opposite. Both of these believers,Huck and Mitt, are so full of themselves that they really believe the world needs their bible thumpin platitudes to see the reason, so sorely lacking in their own theology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 12/13/2007
- Kalima See Profile I'm a Fan of Kalima

He is about as sorry as my cats are when they pee
on my bed and tihs in my bathtub.
I'm sure he had enough time to think about what
he was going to say and still chose to say it.
Most people still think before they speak don't they?
It's like salt when you are cooking,you can always
add but you can't take it out once you've put it in.
I was taught to think before I speak.
Seems there are different rules for politicians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 12/13/2007
- Forest See Profile I'm a Fan of Forest

Here's what Wikepedia has to say about Lucifer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

As in other mythologies, we see good and evil and everything in between being played out on the human stage by archetypal figures like Christ, Lucifer, Aurora, Athena, Zeus. The same personalities and stories are repeated through time, but assume different names. In Greek mythology, the Prideful and Fallen one was Bellerophon and in Judao Christian scriptures it was Lucifer. In either case, the lesson is: "Pride goes before the fall."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 AM on 12/13/2007
- Mormondude See Profile I'm a Fan of Mormondude

The strange thing here is that the media is SO focused on this that this entire controversy, from Huckabee to Romney and back to Huckabee for an apology took place several days BEFORE the story was even published!

Huckabee has already apologized for a story that won't come out until Saturday!! How crazy is that?

It just goes to show that the media are not simply idle spectators in this Mormon bashing, they are the ones pushing and leaking and amplifying it. It's getting utterly ridiculous, and the media should be ashamed of themselves for encouraging, inciting and fomenting this bigotry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 12/13/2007
- Qbear See Profile I'm a Fan of Qbear

Democrats will beat MotherHucker with ONE word


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/DuelingHucks.jpg

E_V_O_L_U_T_I_O_N

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 12/13/2007
- dnels14 See Profile I'm a Fan of dnels14

WE DO NOT EXCEPT BAPTIST MINISTERS APLOLOGY FOR USING JESUS NAME IN VAIN...HOW IN HEAVENS SAKE SHOULD ANYONE EVER SAY SUCH A THING. WHEN WE PRAY TO GOD WE ALWAYS SAY JESUS IN THE PRAYERS.- AND WE FINISH ALL OF OUR PRAYERS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 12/13/2007
- bumphus See Profile I'm a Fan of bumphus

Do Mormons really believe that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers? It's really no crazier than any other religion, it's actually kinda cool...but is that really part of their theology?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 12/13/2007
- lauram See Profile I'm a Fan of lauram

From Sunday's Guardian (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2224553,00.html)Mary Sudnad, 10, grimaces as her hair is pulled into corn rows by Agnes, 11, but the scalp just above her forehead is bald and blistered. Mary tells her story fast, in staccato, staring fixedly at the ground.

'My youngest brother died. The pastor told my mother it was because I was a witch. Three men came to my house. I didn't know these men. My mother left the house. Left these men. They beat me.' She pushes her fists under her chin to show how her father lay, stretched out on his stomach on the floor of their hut, watching. After the beating there was a trip to the church for 'a deliverance'.

A day later there was a walk in the bush with her mother. They picked poisonous 'asiri' berries that were made into a draught and forced down Mary's throat. If that didn't kill her, her mother warned her, then it would be a barbed-wire hanging. Finally her mother threw boiling water and caustic soda over her head and body, and her father dumped his screaming daughter in a field. Drifting in and out of consciousness, she stayed near the house for a long time before finally slinking off into the bush.Mary was seven.

Lovely. The power of religious beliefs in action. Aren't they lovely?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 12/13/2007
- GOPiousness See Profile I'm a Fan of GOPiousness

Huckabee.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
huck·a.bee [huhk-a-bee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
"noun

A liar.

A coddler of rapine/murderous thugs.

A useful tool of rightwing zealots in Arkansas.

A little man responsible for the death of a woman in Missouri.

A panderer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 12/13/2007
- clearvoyant See Profile I'm a Fan of clearvoyant

I am sick of the so called Christians insulting other people with what they know to be lies then acting ignorant and falsely repentant. Huckabee knows what Mormons are. He would have studied it at least briefly in the seminary. They get schooled on the competition and the heretics in order to counter questions from their congregations and to defend the company line. This is typical backhanded meanness that these people are so good at. I know them well. While I don't support the Mormon world view I do give them credit for being some of the nicest people I have ever known. Even if they are mostly dysfunctional at least they try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 12/12/2007
- BeerHolder See Profile I'm a Fan of BeerHolder

, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

They might as well be. They are both imaginary.

This whole, "my religion is better than yours", proves there's nothing to it. If your god is so weak that you have to defend it, it's phony. Let god speak for him/herself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 12/12/2007
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