Military: Less Troops In Iraq, More Troops In Afghanistan

Washington Post   |  Michael Abramowitz, Peter Baker   |   December 17, 2007 10:04 AM


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With violence on the decline in Iraq but on the upswing in Afghanistan, President Bush is facing new pressure from the U.S. military to accelerate a troop drawdown in Iraq and bulk up force levels in Afghanistan, according to senior U.S. officials.

Administration officials said the White House could start to debate the future of the American military commitment in both Iraq and Afghanistan as early as next month. Some Pentagon officials are urging a further drawdown of forces in Iraq beyond that envisioned by the White House, which is set to reduce the number of combat brigades from 20 to 15 by the end of next summer. At the same time, commanders in Afghanistan are looking for several additional battalions, helicopters and other resources to confront a resurgent Taliban movement.

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- ajax2 See Profile I'm a Fan of ajax2 permalink

Bush a failure at birth, now, and tomorrow pulled troops away from the terrorists in Afghanistan who attacked us. Will there ever be a greater failure than GW Bush?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 12/17/2007
- ceasenake See Profile I'm a Fan of ceasenake permalink

Good! Now those Nato sissy-boys can mince their way back to Europe. They'll soon be needed to take on the Muslim streets a al Paris.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 12/17/2007
- ceasenake See Profile I'm a Fan of ceasenake permalink

Good! Shift priorities back to Afganistan, get those candy-ass Nato troops out of the way. They will be fighting the Muslims in the streets of Europe soon enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 12/17/2007
- ajax2 See Profile I'm a Fan of ajax2 permalink

...."It is bleak," said Col. Chris Haas, commander of the Joint Special Operations Task Force in Afghanistan.

"The gains we have made over the past few years are mostly gone," said a bearded Special Operations officer, fresh in from advising Afghan army units in battle with 600 to 700 well-equipped Taliban fighters.

More troops in Iraq will almost certainly not make any noticable difference there. More troops in Afghanistan might, but they aren't available because of Iraq. It's worth keeping in mind that Bush's resistance to withdrawal in Iraq is likely to lead to the United States losing not just one war, but two. I'm not sure if any American president has done that before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 12/17/2007
- ajax2 See Profile I'm a Fan of ajax2 permalink

Bush pulls troops out of Afghanistan,

Baltimore Sun:

As a last-ditch effort, President Bush is expected to announce this week the dispatch of thousands of additional troops to Iraq as a stopgap measure, an order that Pentagon officials say would strain the Army and Marine Corps as they struggle to man both wars.

Already, a U.S. Army infantry battalion fighting in a critical area of eastern Afghanistan is due to be withdrawn within weeks in order to deploy to Iraq.

According to Army Brig. Gen. Anthony J. Tata and other senior U.S. commanders here, that will happen just as the Taliban is expected to unleash a major campaign to cut the vital road between Kabul and Kandahar. The official said the Taliban intend to seize Kandahar, Afghanistan's second-largest city and the place where the group was organized in the 1990s.

"We anticipate significant events there next spring," said Tata.

You would have thought he would have learned what a mistake this was after Tora Bora.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 12/17/2007
- fourex See Profile I'm a Fan of fourex permalink

GW Bush pulled troops out of Afghanistan and the fight against al-qaeda so he could kill Iraqis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 12/17/2007
- loki See Profile I'm a Fan of loki permalink

Because it would be to obvious when troops start to build up on the Iraq Iran border. In Afghanistan they can try to claim they are going balls out searching for Bin Laden when 200,000 plus troops are lining up on the border. Also, being as it would be easier to invade Iran without having Iraqi insurgents shoot at your backs, while Iranians are firing at your face.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 12/17/2007
- acudoctor See Profile I'm a Fan of acudoctor permalink

Afghanistan Poppy Cultivation Skyrockets

Sunday August 5, 2007 1:46 AM

By MATTHEW LEE

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Afghanistan will produce another record poppy harvest this year that cements its status as the world's near-sole supplier of the heroin source, yet a furious debate over how to reverse the trend is stalling proposals to cut the crop, U.S. officials say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 12/17/2007
- Ammobob See Profile I'm a Fan of Ammobob permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 12/17/2007
- Progress08 See Profile I'm a Fan of Progress08 permalink

I know I sound like a reactionary, but Congress had better get off their asses because American people won't tolerate indefinite involvement in Iraq.... As an example the civil war in Lebanon lasted from 1975 to 1990. Do you think Americans won't have another revolution if our gov't maintains our involvement even close to that long. Don't be fooled that the surge will work. There is no political will. All parties will wait until the time is right and the Shia/Sunni "Eye for an Eye" policy will continue(it's never stopped "64 dead in series of bombs". We have injected our economic will into their constitution (Bush insisted that they sign over Refining rights to western companies). Do you really think they give a shit about our happiness. They know that this is nothing more than a "snatch and grab" paid for and defended with American Tax Dollars. And they will continue to wait until Americans get tired of body bags. At every fucking turn American corporate policy has failed;

The Shah of Iran
Cuban Dictator Batista
The DeMarcos of the Phillipines
Numerous latin american dictators
Chang Ki Sheck of China
South Vietnamese Gov't
and many others

All the failures of our foreign policy and corporate ambitions...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 12/17/2007
- LaFeminazi See Profile I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi permalink

Sir Tone Yah rides forth

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-RgBN0qOELM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 12/17/2007
- acudoctor See Profile I'm a Fan of acudoctor permalink

BAGHDAD " Bomb blasts, ambushes and gunfights across Iraq left 11 people dead on Saturday, including four members of American-backed security patrols charged with rooting out insurgents.

Reach of War
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The security patrols, which are mostly Sunni groups known as Awakening Councils, have been credited with helping to drive down violence here. But their work with the Americans has put them in the cross hairs of Al Qaeda of Mesopotamia, a homegrown extremist group that American intelligence agencies say they believe is led by foreigners.

The attacks occurred as Iraqis prepared for the Muslim holiday of Id al-Adha, the Islamic Feast of Sacrifice, which begins this week.

In the north Baghdad neighborhood of Adhamiya, three security patrol members were killed in two separate attacks when roadside bombs blew up near their headquarters after noon. Fifteen people were wounded in the blasts.

Also around midday, insurgents hiding in a house opened fire on a checkpoint run by Awakening Council members in the south Baghdad neighborhood of Dora, wounding three people.

In Salahuddin Province, north of Baghdad, Sunni extremists attacked another security patrol, killing one person and wounding four.

The surge

is

a

failure

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 12/17/2007
- Beelzebul See Profile I'm a Fan of Beelzebul permalink

Nice. Clinton, Obama and Biden never bothered to show up to vote against the cloture motion or stand by Dodd's expected filibuster. Once again, they show zero leadership on something very very important.

Fuck them. Those same three never bothered to vote on the Mukasey nomination, either. What to hell kind of message is that sending to the people? Nothing like putting personal aspirations ahead of your political duties to the people; and the constitution. Assholes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 12/17/2007
- EyeWantOneNation See Profile I'm a Fan of EyeWantOneNation permalink

Ah, yes, things are going so well in Iraq. The Brits pulled out of Southern Iraq, and turned it over to the Iraqi government (what government??) and wasn't I reading over the weekend that total mutiny and bloodshed broke out in Southern Iraq??

There is no military commander that will have the guts to step up and say sending troops into Iraq was a mistake...the focus should have been on Afghanistan from the beginning.
Now all hell is breaking loose in Afghanistan, while our men and women are being killed on a daily basis in the middle of a civil war in Iraq!!

BRILLIANT!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 12/17/2007
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